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Mar 30

@AaronInWriting So, totalitarianism is bad. Got it.
Is Democracy always right? Is majority rule always right? Is voting on whether a woman can murder their unborn child the right thing to do as a Christian, or is there a higher moral ground, which does indeed want to dictate on this matter?

@AaronInWriting No Christian that I know is presently advocating overturning the USA government, (although I wonder why #unorganizedmilitia haven’t acted already), in order to re-establish the rule of law in this country. God used to tell his people what to do: go, destroy, possess the land.

@AaronInWriting Whatever ‘CN’ or supposed White Nationalist Racists there are, they are certainly not in the numbers to do anything. Making ‘Christians’ the new boogeyman, along with J6 defendants, is pure evil, i.e. just politics.

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Ronald

@ronaldj100

Mar 15

@MarkGrote Unfortunately many in the “apologetics ministries” engage in character assassination and guilt by association rather than upholding & explaining rationally their theological positions as being “right” against another position as “wrong”. False teachers of another kind? Fruit?!

@MarkGrote Let me add, that me putting some “apologetic ministries” in quotes in itself is an aspersing of them (i.e. a character assassination), just as if I called them “heresy hunters” or labeled in some other way, OSAS, Calvinists, Hyper-grace, Pharisees, Sadducees, & false teachers,etc

@MarkGrote Labeling is a short-hand way of grouping a set of doctrines, & for the most part unavoidable both ways. Individuals comprise those groups (& other cults, JWs, LDS, etc) who may have been wearing those sunglass “blinders” of the Truth for years in self-/corporate- indoctrination.

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Ronald

@ronaldj100

Mar 12

@MarkGrote So is your interpretive hermeneutic to filter all water baptism thru the lens of Acts 1:5? Yes, there is a distinction between John’s baptism and the baptism of Christ. And yet, Jesus/His disciples baptized in water more than the John (John 4:1-2), but not in the Holy Spirit.

@MarkGrote So Jesus was water immersed. His own disciples baptized just as John did. John was Elijah to come and the voice preparing the way for the Messiah (Mk 1:3;9:11) How so? Does repentance from sin play an important role in preparation to become born again and receive the Spirit? Yes.

@MarkGrote So when Philip the evangelist taught the Ethiopian eunuch from Isaiah & then baptized him in water, was the water superfluous? Or was it an important way to demonstrate fidelity to follow Christ & identify with Christ in the DBR, ending his old life & beginning anew? Acts 8:38

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Ronald

@ronaldj100

Mar 12

@Truth_matters20 Ok Danny. The canon is what we take as authoritative. Nonetheless, what the primitive church in the 1st&2nd centuries, who were direct disciples of the apostles, informs us historically of the faith & practice at that time, before Augustine & Constantine.

@Truth_matters20 Those direct disciples of the apostles surely had something to say, no? Yes, they did, and it is recorded history. YES, throw out bad RC doctrines corrupting influence, but don’t fail to look further back to see what was believed and practiced by those closest to the start.

@Truth_matters20 Those writings of the earliest church in the 1st & 2nd centuries are called the Ante-Nicene Fathers. It’s a 10 volume set. But, conveniently, you can find good summaries & quotes by the works of David Bercot (books and videos).

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Ronald

@ronaldj100

Mar 12

@MarkGrote Mark, please review this audio recording. The earliest church history evidence is of water baptism, and has been the continued practice ever since until the Renewal/Great Awakening movements where the whole ‘come to the altar, say a sinners pray’ started.

@MarkGrote The most important thing is for the individual to be 1st renewed, regenerated, born again from above by the Spirit, and 2nd subsequently (or simultaneously) to receive the Holy Spirit to indwell them, often called the baptism of the Holy Spirit. These events may be separate.

@MarkGrote Whether these events happen simultaneously or separately (as evidenced by Cornelius) is out of anyone’s control. The linkage to water baptism does not guarantee either has renewal or filling has occurred (as evidence by Simon the Sorcerer, Acts 8) cf 1 Cor 15:2; Gal 3:4 in vain

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Ronald

@ronaldj100

Mar 11

@AaronInWriting Why do you mock others people faith? Must you prove yourself to be right and all others wrong? What spirit are ye of?

The writings of the 1st&2nd century church practice never invalidated water baptism, until “renewal” and “awakening” revivals much later.

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@AaronInWriting Where in Bible is Holy Spirit received into a disciple when they go up to the altar & say a sinners prayer or answer an altar call? The Holy Spirit is of upmost importance, Rom 8:9!
What does John 14:21,23 & Acts 5:32b tell us?

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@AaronInWriting Nonetheless, Simon the Sorcerer both believed AND was baptized (Acts 8:9-23), how’d that work out for him? Despite those that claim all that believe are instantaneously saved and forever “sealed” by the Holy Spirit.
2 Thes 2:13 says salvation = “sanctification AND belief”
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