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@Prune602
Apr 1 • 123 tweets • 31 min read • Read on X
Who wants another thread with sources on how things are bad in Russia?!

Let me know and then bookmark this tweet for later so you can find it if/when I write it!
Buckle in, we’re going on an adventure!

Be prepared:

1. This is going to be more specific than the long one

2. This may not end where you think it will. (Honestly, these threads have a life their own, there’s a good chance it doesn’t end where I think it will)
There will be typos, I’ve accepted it. I do this all on an iPhone. It is what it is. I just consider it part of my charm.

Also there will be references to other threads to explain topics

So now for our starting point!
Russian Academy of Sciences “scientists estimate that it will cost 280 billion rubles a year to lift Russia’s large families out of poverty”

forbes.ru/finansy/509335…
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First of all, when you get into these numbers, and then perhaps switch it to another currency than you are familiar with, it just makes it hard to wrap your brain around.

Side Note: If you read about a salary in Russia they are typically referring to 1 months pay.
So let’s look at things to give you some scale of what 280 Billion Rubles per year is comparable to.
31.4 Billion Rubles is how much Russia cut from 2024’s Healthcare budget. Bringing the entire Russian 2024 Budget down to

289.9 Billion Rubles

(This is also why they aren’t buying medicine)
Russia committed 900 Billion Rubles to save this Gazprom LNG project.

So that over 3 times the 280 billion price tag from the poverty article
This insane project where they want build a mega resort in Occupied Zaporizhzhia, and are very likely to use Captured Ukrainians as forced labor on the land Russia stole from them.

👉 400 Billion Rubles
Money budgeted from the Russian Government to fund Vladimir Solovyov’s company in 2024

About 3 Billion Rubles
The housing and communal services budget that wasn’t enough to keep the heat on and running this past winter:

2023: 855.9 Billion Rubles
2024: 881.3 Billion Rubles
2025: 506.7 Billion Rubles
2026: 381. 2 Billion Rubles

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One massive attack on Ukraine!

👉 about 114 Billion Rubles

This is what I mean when I say that Russia’s war in Ukraine is directly making things worse for Russians.

Kids aren’t getting medicine and vaccines and more people are in poverty because Putin wants to bomb Ukraine
Also, imagine how much medicine Russia could buy if they weren’t paying for people like Sergey Mardan on Solovyov’s network to Incite Genocide.

But that’s where Russia’s priorities are. 🤷‍♀️
Moving on!

280 Billion Rubles per year is what they estimate to lift LARGE families out of poverty. And a LARGE family is 3 or more children. Image
Does 3 children seem like a large family where you’re from? 🧐

I’m curious, maybe this is just a regional thing. Personally I would classify LARGE as 4 or more kids.

I have 3 kids and 2-3 kids seems just regular sized here.
There’s several things I want you to talk about next, and I’m not sure if there is a way to put them in a logical order, so just hang in there!
So I want make it clear that this is the number that was calculated based on ROSSTAT data and what was DECLARED the 2023 poverty line.

You know it’s really easy to lower the percentage of people in poverty on paper if you just…lower the poverty line. It’s like magic! Image
I’m going to refer to this thread now as the Russian Inflation Gaslighting thread.

Where this guy with the Russian Central Bank tries to argue that nobody else knows what they’re talking about, and everyone is just misunderstanding what’s actually happening.

It’s lies ⤵️
Seriously you NEED to read that thread to understand how Russia is manipulating its inflation data. And a lot more “experts” than you think are using Russia’s “official” data as if it truly reflects what is actually happening in Russia.

All the details!
A now 62.4% of houses are financially unstable.
I’m going to take a break here so everyone has time to read about the inflation because it’s really important.

That way you can appreciate the train wreck I’m going to show you 😇

(Also I’m terrified of accidentally deleting the thread before it posts…because that’s happened)
I’m going to add a few more notes to make it clearer what you should be seeing. Because you definitely read the inflation thread! Right?

It is shocking how many things Russia has tied back to the inflation rate, that all know by now is being manipulated.
So this study is using Rosstat numbers that are being manipulated.

And remember, the prices may be correct in Rosstat’s model because the PRICES were being manipulated before they went into the model and the extra costs are hidden elsewhere.
And those costs AREN’T included in the consumer basket therefore it makes inflation look artificially lower (much lower) than it actually is.
That means that Russia is struggling to get people to above the OFFICIAL poverty line.

But in actuality the amount of money needed to pull people out of poverty in REALITY is much higher.

The Russian government has rigged the game but is still losing. Image
And the more I talk about this, it might be helpful to imagine it as a pyramid scheme. Where nothing is like they try to tell everyone it is.
To be continued…
Why do I keep pointing at the inflation rate and the demographic crisis?

BECAUSE it is at the heart of a lot Russia’s problems. These 2 topics and how Putin is trying to manipulate or hide the data are a major problem.
It’s important to remember that Putin has been in power for well over 20 years. He has had plenty of time to fix these problems, but hasn’t.

These are HIS problems.
I wrote this thread (that I think someone turned into an article somewhere) that shows actual math of how bad the demographics are in Russia.

You may think that demographics are bad in Europe too, but trust me, Russia is worse.

Read this thread ⤵️
Now the guy talking at the beginning, Boris? He was the one that was the closest thing to an opposition candidate during Putin’s recent “election”

Ultimately, Boris was NOT ALLOWED to be a candidate 🫠
Yup, here’s the article ⤵️

ohmymag.co.uk/news/russian-t…
Articles like this keep coming out that shows how bad Rosstat is predicting the population decline.

forbes.ru/society/505191…
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Look at these numbers ⬇️ Image
So when Russia wants something, that they don’t have but want, what is one of their strategies?

Steal it!

It’s why Putin has an ICC arrest warrant for stealing children.
Here’s someone explaining what they did ⤵️
Here’s a Russian Senator discussing Ukrainian Children ⤵️
Here’s Margarita talking about getting young people who can work.
Acting if you will fast forward toward the end of this video, you’ll see Simonyan and Solovyov discuss the demographic problems and how that could solve that which is disturbing when you realize what they’re actually doing



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“There is a time lag”

It’s like they’re talking about a crop instead of people.

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*actually

I said their would be typos
Ok, I’m assigning homework because I want you to see a historical example of how badly things can go wrong. And I think there’s a lot of people who don’t know about it.
Decree 770 was signed in 1967 and it restricted abortion AND contraception in Romania.

They just forced people to have children without making sure the people could AFFORD the children. It was bad…really bad.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_770
I’m going to recommend a podcast about the guy who signed it and some of the fallout from it. You can listen to it on pretty much any podcast platform but I’ll give you YouTube links since that will be available for everyone on here (I think)

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3

I think it’s pretty universally agreed, this guy sucked. And that’s an understatement. But boy did the Romanian people give him a Christmas to remember!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_C…
Also an interesting note: He had this thing built which is CRAZY big!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of…
Remember, you can use your bookmark feature to take your time and read all of this stuff. I know this thread is long and you probably won’t get through it all in one sitting.

Expect it to continue (as I write it in between doing other things) until I say it’s over.
And even then, maybe it will be a bit longer 😂.

Big problems require big threads to explain them.
We’re going to see repeating themes in a lot of this and a lot of it boils down to a few basic points:

- Not fixing the root cause of a problem, either because they don’t want to or because they can’t. In a lot of cases they just don’t put in the work or allocate the resources.
- When things go wrong, absolutely refusing to take responsibility for a problem and thus AGAIN not solving the root cause. This where we get a lot of bluff AND blame or more simply

🇷🇺: FEAR ME but also I’m the victim 🥺
Again, Putin has been in power for how long, and stuff sucks in Russia but somehow I still see arguments of:

“PUTIN WAS TRICKED, HE WAS FOOLED! THOSE ANGLO-SAXONS ARE AT IT AGAIN!”

But they never suggest they get a leader that isn’t fooled. It’s because it’s an excuse.
- Leadership just demanding things happen without any understanding of what is actually needed to make things happen.

This top down strategy especially when the top doesn’t know what they’re doing is the source of a lot of problems.
Here’s Medvedev reading Stalin’s telegrams to defense factories AGAIN. As if that helps (it certainly didn’t seem to the first time which is why he did it again)

Provide absolutely ZERO help in solving problems, it’s just threatening people.
When you don’t pay people enough, they pick up side hustles (like Russians selling tank parts to Ukraine) or corruption.

When you are severely punished for bad news, you hide the bad news. When you are not going to reap any rewards for hard work, you’re not going to work hard.
There is no upside to trying to fix these problems for an individual. In fact, pointing these problems out could get them in trouble. So people don’t.

Now imagine trying to solve issues in Russia when you have THIS work culture at every single stage.
Russia probably still doesn’t comprehend how bad things are. And when I say you can’t trust data from Russia. THIS is also what I’m talking about.
Russia uses covers for this by lying. And it’s important to realize that Russia will lie about anything and everything.

Sometimes we ALL need to be reminded of this.
This scenario often trips people up who KNOW Russia lies. But remember

Russia often says what it WANTS to do, not what it CAN do.

So when Russia says it’s conscripting 150,000 THEY CAN AND WILL LIE HERE TOO.

They may not be able to find 150,000
Here is (yet) another thread. I recommend reading about mobilization.

I think this is important to change your perception of what is the common understanding of what’s happening here.
Something worth pointing out about the secret 7th paragraph of the mobilization order.

There were RUMORS it actually contained instructions about WHERE to focus mobilization efforts. And that it was primarily from the ethnic minority regions that had higher birth rates.
I’ve never seen the ACTUAL text of the 7th paragraph confirmed, but I highly doubt they would give themselves limits to how many they could recruit.
So there’s been a lot stories following themes “Russia will” of “Putin Demands” without people remembering to look if they can of if they’re even putting meaningful resources into doing that

Putin demands you make a breakthrough!
But also they cut 20% from the budget 🫠
🚨 Warning: I do not want you to take any of this as meaning that Russia ISN’T a threat.
Think of them as a guy that just stole a bulldozer and went on a rampage. He needs to be stopped, and it was a really bad idea to do this…but he can still do a lot of damage even if he’s eventually going to run out of gas.
It would be really nice if certain politicians weren’t willing to allow him to refuel the bulldozer
So if you read this thread (and this is an important one to read) you’ll see that Russia has not made any MEANINGFUL EFFORT to fix the birth rate in a way that makes people CHOOSE to have more children.
And I told you that inflation was a common theme. By artificially adjusting inflation, when someone looks at their budget and sees numbers raised to match inflation, everything looks fine, when it’s not!

He can get away with paying less
So instead of putting the work in, Russia is trying make women give birth and is pushing them towards as Decree 770 type situation.

Read this article for a fast recap. And a lot of women in Russia aren’t happy about it.

cepa.org/article/women-…
If we go back to the article that started this whole thread, you’ll see a list suggested actions for pulling people out of poverty.

I don’t think Russia is doing any of this. The in fact it’s probably the opposite. Image
Russian propaganda AND the Russian Ministry of Health is telling woman they shouldn’t get an education. That they should focus on getting pregnant. Preferably beginning by age 19 or 20.

Even though that’s EXACTLY what is needed to keep them out of poverty. Image
Who does Russia have available to provide childcare for all these new children? They’re out of labor and they’re even running off the migrants.
Russia wants more kids but doesn’t want to renovate the kindergartens
And remember: people aren’t getting paid!
Back to the article:

“the emergence of poverty is promoted by both economic reasons (lack of jobs, underemployment, low incomes) and social ones (disability, single-parent families, high dependency load, low qualifications, natural and social disasters leading to migration).” Image
Putin had caused ALL OF THESE!

ALL OF THEM! Image
He does have a fail-safe on migration. You can’t leave Russia if you have debt!

🇷🇺: Checkmate
Have you seen the Russian military recruiting ad where if you sign up for the military then the bank won’t break your legs?

Not a loan shark, THE BANK is sending people to break legs.

🇷🇺: WHO WANTS TO MOVE TO RUSSIA? 😃
Correction: it was his arm Image
(I would hate to be accused of blowing things out of proportion.)

🇷🇺: Yes, we said we’d break his arm, not his leg.
Next we’re going to into completely different and bizarre direction!

Who’s still with me!?
Something to notice…

When this article was written:

30,000 Rubles = $483

Now:

30,000 Rubles ≈ $328
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So everything up there 👆 we know. This next bit is going to get a little…just a little into speculation.

But I’m going to warn you about what is speculation! And it’s going to be a bit of a story.
Fact: In July and August of 2023 there were 2 documents that were released on telegram.

Speculation: If the documents are real, who the author really is, who released them, when they were written.

But I can tell you who they were attributed to in the release.
Mikhail Delyagin *may* have been the source of the release but it was reported that he revealed who the author was. Image
He said the author was this guy Oleg Matveychev. Image
Oleg is the guy who wants to ban Feminism. ⤵️
On the memos released. This is my own speculation from studying the documents. I believe that the documents released in July was written AFTER the document released in August.

Why?
Well I did an in-depth look at this. But it’s like, imagine you do a short write-up of an idea and you show it to your boss.

Your boss likes it but then says: “expand on this and give me a detailed action plan”

The “action plan” was released first.
But as far as WHEN it was written/when people in official circles became aware of it.

🚨 Speculation alert

I think April/May of 2023 based on some timing of things.
You can follow the details and all the data in this thread if you would like. But *assuming the memos are genuine* this a rough explanation of what happened.
After Putin has pretty much eliminated any opposition from the Left suddenly they realize he has opposition from the FAR RIGHT.

These would be the “hurrah patriots” and so this memo about the Dangers of Jingoism was written.
Prigozhin was still alive and causing a ruckus, my guess is that it was written way before the Wagner Rebellion.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Gr…
But Putin was also getting abuse from Igor Girkin (the guy who shot down the commercial passenger plane MH-17)
Side note: Prigozhin and Girkin did not get along. Girkin and Solovyov HATE EACH OTHER.

And they used to attack each other constantly.
😂
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Prigozhin vs Girkin
Girkin vs Prigozhin
The link clip below where Girkin just went after everyone!
Prigozhin and Solovyov appeared to get along.
Back near the beginning of the war, Navalny’s group called Peskov’s [Putin’s Press Secretary] son and pretended to be calling for him to be mobilized.

Peskov’s son pulled a “Do you know who I am, this doesn’t apply to me” move while being recorded for everyone to see.
Obviously there was some stink there because obviously the “elites” weren’t being sent off to fight.

So they cooked up a plan to make it look like Peskov’s son actually HAD gone and fought in secret with the Wagner PMC.

They couldn’t even keep their story straight.
And of course, Solovyov was there to air footage to show what a brave little man Peskov’s son was. But it was all a lie!

There was even more reporting exposing it. It’s all ridiculous.
But see, that’s where Oleg Matveychev begins to realize that there’s a problem.

See all these “turbo patriots” were pointing out MAJOR PROBLEMS that were occurring in the war. And these problems were making Putin (and Shoigu & Gerasimov) LOOK BAD!
So do they work on FIXING the problems?
👉 NO

They worked on getting the people to stop pointing out the problems!

And Progozhin just wouldn’t take a hint and Solovyov’s (and Simonyan’s) relationships with Prigozhin were starting to reflect badly on them.
Watch this video of Solovyov from December 2022. And think about how much different that is from what he says now.
I guess I should clarify that he wouldn’t allow these conversations since he’s not talking in that clip. But it is very similar to things Solovyov would say.

Solovyov would point out the soldiers did not have adequate kit. He would point out problems. Not so much anymore!
And Solovyov was on the action list of people who have gotten in trouble!
Here is on passage where basically the author is like: “If no one brings up the problem then the problem doesn’t exist!”

Several people have been attacked or killed are listed in this memo btw.
So fast forward in time and now it’s AFTER the Wagner rebellion and suddenly be associated with Prigozhin is dangerous. And maybe Putin is rethinking things. Girkin has also decided to get political.
So Putin throws Girkin in jail. (Again Girkin has been convicted by the ICC for shooting down a commercial passenger plane, none of these people are “good guys” they all suck)

And the first memo gets released suggesting that Solovyov will get arrested next.
He hasn’t been, but Girkin complained that they were torturing him in the detention center by playing Solovyov on TV non stop
Solovyov was pleased when he heard the news.
The whole point of the memo was really how to neutralize threats to Putin. Not how to protect Russia or solve problems. It was all about how to protect Putin’s image.

And that meant burying the problems and getting people to stop pointing them out. NOT FIXING THEM.
Which again is sort of a running theme with this thread (and all the threads)
At one point in the leaked documents you’ll see the author point out the worries of dangers from the left when things like: INFLATION or WAGE DELAYS

But he thinks those are small in comparison to the problems on the right. Image
‼️ Now I want you to look at this page and see if you notice any of the things that have been going on…and how they are desperate to bury it instead of fix it Image
If you want to read through all the stuff and sources in connection to the memo (there’s more pages). Again, it’s all linked to this thread
For some reason people keep making these video petitions assuming that if people in power just heard what was REALLY happening they would do something.

If this memo is accurate, the reality is that they HATE those videos because it makes Putin look bad. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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The end! 🥵

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“Muslims still live in these European countries where this is happening, we don’t see any rallies, we don’t see Muslims bringing people to account”

~ Apti Alaudinov



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They have tried again & again tried to stir religious fervor and hatred.
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“What was another plague? Thunder, lightning and hail [“grad” in Russian]. I have a feeling it was written about our Grad [rocket launcher]. A Grad will destroy all the people and animals and the fields with their crops”

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‼️ The Russian Healthcare Thread

What’s going wrong and why? Buckle in, because there’s going to be a lot!

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‼️Update THREAD

There have been a few Russian language articles that have come out related to this. I know I have several followers that are interested in what happened here that are also knowledgeable in the area so I wanted to at a minimum be able point people to them.

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So I’m going to do a thread. Keep in mind that this is Russia & Russia lies. Evaluate claims accordingly.

First this article from Forbes Russia is rather detail heavy. So if you’re in this field this might be worth a read.

2/
forbes.ru/tekhnologii/50…
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I do want to point one thing of note

The article points out that the “NSDI” was supposed to be created based on a law from 2019.

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‼️ SEED SHORTAGE IN RUSSIA ‼️

I need to point out what is VERY INTERESTING ABOUTH THIS.

Forbes Russia:

“Before the spring sowing season, the Astrakhan and Volgograd regions complained about a shortage of imported seeds”

And we’re talking BIG SHORTAGES
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Russia does not produce enough seeds domestically, they are imported.

They at least produce SOME, unlike hatching eggs. Which seems insane for a country as big as Russia…the biggest country on earth.
In the 2 regions discussed:

Astrakhan region has:
🍅 70% of the necessary tomato seeds

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*sigh* what are they doing now

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First let’s look at what a Russian report for Russian audiences said happened

forbes.ru/society/494485…
👉 Russia says

Cause: Technical malfunction during training flight

Location: Deserted Terrain

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