1/ On sheds, scrapyards and parking lots: short thread on some caveats about Russian military storage bases.
2/ I mentioned a while ago that I was planning a thread on these topics, and finally it's here. This is mostly about explaining some interesting subjects about Russian stored equipment and how it can help unsolve part of the mistery of how much more potential equipment remains there.
3/ First I want to talk about scrapyards. On the thumbnail is the most famous one, the local scrapyards of the 1295th base at Arseniev, of which I have talked several times and that's a great example of this particular subject.
4/ Practically all storage bases have a local scrapyard where they destroyed mothballed equipment that was not classified as fit anymore for various reasons: it could be too obsolete, it could exceed CFE numbers, it simply was beyond their capacity to mantain such number of equipment (even with the typically atrocious post Soviet storage standards)...
5/ Since the war started, scrapyards, which previously held junk for years without it being moved, suddenly started emptying in many places. I want to show some exampled of this: first, I'm linking again my previous post of the 1295th:
6/ In the most recent footage they haven't removed more equipment from the scrapyed; instead, they have moved junk from the active part of the base to said scrapyard.
7/ The 2546th/103rd: prewar and during the war.
8/ The 2544th: prewar vs during the war.
9/ At some other bases the number of scrapped hulls has increased tho. The 94th arsenal it's one such case, due to the cannibalization of artillery: prewar vs during the war.
10/ In most recent footage which I can't share the number of broken hulls has dramatically increased at many bases tho, as I said yesterday.
11/ This isn't conclusive at all, but I find very interesting that early during the many several of the biggest storage bases saw an unprecedented drop in the number of stored scrap, and at many other broken hulls were rearranged in rows. I can't assure it, but I guess part of it was used to provide spare parts for damage equipment in Ukraine, even if it was just hull parts.
12/ Now that we have talked about scrapyards, it's time to talk about the next subject: sheds.
13/ Many have tried to speculate how much equipment could be stored inside these, specially before the invasion broke out. Both @HighMarsed and the @InstitutAR did good analysis on this.
15/ It's indeed almost certain that the most modern and best preserved stored equipment would've been stored inside garages. However, I doubt that most sheds actually were used to stored equipment. Most likely, a biggest share of them were used for critical facilities such as repair workshops, spare parts storage and such.
16/ @Ath3neN0ctu4 recently found many interesting pics of storage bases, including multiple ones inside hangars that point out exactly to this:
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18/ But that's not the only point about hangars that supports this theory. Another intersting thing is that they have kept demolishing them at an steady rate for years, even after 2022.
19/ Some satellite footage of this attached as examples: first, a comparison of the 230th:
20/ The 111th:
21/ The 349th:
22/ And many other bases have rundown sheds that clearly would be better maintained if they were use for something important. Just some pics here because I really have no need of going crazy reviewing base by base and looking at every shed:
23/ To sum this up, hangars probably didn't hold as much equipment prewar as many estimated, and they probably aren't even that useful when the Russian military is actively demolishing many of them, and has been doing this for well over a decade due to a lack of funds and use.
24/ Finally, the last, but not least important topic I want to talk about today: how the way stored equipment is lined up can tell us a lot about their state and usefulness.
25/ You see, I'm running out of time, so I'll finish this last part of the thread later today. Hope you have enjoyed it so far.
26/ I forgot to mention it when explaining storage bases scrapyards, but neither me nor @HighMarsed include the junk in those in our count, not even while classifiying it as broken equipment. I do however count broken equipment found in active parts of storage bases.
27/ Back to work. As I was saying, the way equipment is lined up in rows can tell us a lot about their readiness. "Good" equipment is usually pretty well lined up, while "bad" equipment is left as it was parked a long time ago. Compare the armored vehicles at the 3018th/6018th before the war:
27/ Indeed, the first picture shows the local junkyard, while the second one is the main section of the part that held active armor.
28/ Some more pics: the 22nd.
29/ The 769th/227th:
30/ Finally, as to not make this thread an eternal lecture, the 744th:
31/ In cases were all equipment was pretty ordered, it was pretty quickly removed. A great example of this is the former Ukrainian military depot at the outskirts of Sevastopol:
32/ I could keep talking in even more detail of these topics, but I think by now you all have get the gist of it. So that's it for today, hope you liked it! I'll try to get some actual count numbers posted here preeeeetty soonoooon, at long last.
33/ In case I wasn't clear enough, well lined armor was probably parked there on their own, while chaotic rows most likely had armor towed there, not powered on their own engines.
1/ Time for the last of my individual AFV counts for now. This time is the BRDM-2, the obsolete Soviet armored scout car.
2/ Here are the numbers from prewar and latest footage of BRDM-2s in Russian storage by @HighMarsed and me: 1300 vehicles in 2021 and 1188 nowadays, including 251 visibly broken ones.
I had to split the table in two screenshots because otherwise it wouldn't fit. Specially old footage is marked in orange, as usual.
1/ Updated MT-LBu count. There haven't been a lot of movement of MT-LBus in storage, but still, let's see how things have changed since 2021.
2/ First, numbers from prewar and recent footage. @HighMarsed and I found 1229 stored MT-LBs before the war, and now there are 1053, so at least 176 have been removed from military storage bases. As usual, especially old footage dates is marked in orange.
3/ A bit of a reminder of my previous MT-LBu thread, where I explained some bits about them.
1/ Updated BTR-50 count. This thread is gonna be very short, as there were never many BTR-50s in storage in the first place, but it is what it is.
2/ First, here you have the prewar and current count. As you can see I eventually found some extra stored BTR-50s during prewar times compared to the original count made by myself and @HighMarsed: 125 BTR-50s in total. By now only 50 remain, less than half, and probably all of them broken and unparable husks.
3/ I also made a thread with interesting bits on BTR-50s in storage a while ago, and most of the information released in that thread has stayed exactly the same as of 2024 footage provided by @Vishun_military:
1/ Updated BMD count. Let's how the Russian airborne IFVs in storage are looking after more than two years of peer warfare.
2/ First, the actual figures. After recounting prewar stocks, @HighMarsed and I found 637 BMDs or BMD-based support vehicles in Russian military depots. Now the number has been reduced to just 244 units, just over a third of the initial number, of which at least 58 are not actual combat vehicles.
3/ Two months ago I did a BMD thread where, will not disclosing numbers, I did provide some useful data. I recommend checking that one, as it already contains a lot of info also published in this thread: