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May 7, 2024 19 tweets 6 min read Read on X
Here is my Rivian Q1 2024 earnings deep dive.

Verdict: Further escalating cash burn, resources dropping below $8B, lack of operational profitability/cost improvements, and lackluster 2024 guidance. Rivian loses $39K per vehicle sold (gross).

1. Free Cash Flow significantly worsened to negative $1,523 million representing the 3rd consecutive quarter demonstrating widening cash burn.Image
2. Cash burn increased despite a significant (15%) reduction in investments (capital expenditures) to just $254 million. Image
3. Poor free cash flow was partial due to the still very weak operating cash flow which worsened by 15% to negative $1.3 billion. Image
4. A significant driver of the weakening operational cash generation was the weakening operational profitability. Although gross losses reduced (13%) to $527M,... Image
5. ...together with some Gross Margin improvements to negative 44% (from negative 46%). Image
6. Rivian's reducing revenues resulted in... Image
7. ...only moderate improvements in terms of operating profitability: Operating losses reduced from $1,581 million to $1,484 million. Image
8. As a result, Rivian's operating margin worsened again to negative 123%, the second consecutive month. Image
9. Rivian failed to improve operating profitability despite a significant reduction in R&D spending (12.4% less) to $461 million. Image
10. Additionally, Rivian's overhead expenses increased significantly - as was expected - from Rivian's announced layoffs. For reference: Tesla sells over 30x more vehicles than Rivian but Tesla's SG&A spending is only about 3x of Rivian's!. Image
11. As a result, overall operating expenses reduced only marginal (1.8% less) to $957 million. Image
12. Losses attributable to shareholders reduced slightly (5% less) to $1,446 million Image
13. Losses per share reduced by a slightly higher amount (6% less) to a loss per share of $1.48. Image
14. As a result of the operational losses and further inventory increases, Rivian's financial resources dropped for the first time below $8.0 billion despite substantial capital raises during 2023. Image
15. Rivian's long term debt balance remained unchanged in Q1 2024 after a significant increase in Q4 2023 to $4.4 billion. Image
16. Due to Rivian's rather high vehicle production cost of $127,400, which decreased by only 7% qoq, and... Image
17. ...Rivian's significantly reducing (-6%) average selling price, Rivian... Image
18. ...was unable to materially lower per-vehicle losses: at the current rate, it would take rivian >2 years to achieve $1 in profit per vehicle sold. Image
19. Rivian maintained a weak vehicle sales guidance for 2024 of 57,000 vehicles, implying an ex-growth scenario for Rivian's current line up. Image

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