Thread by @ldsabuse

Good morning.

I’ve been saying there’s a secret society problem in the LDS Church for over eighteen months now. I’ve taken a lot of criticism for this, sometimes from sources I wouldn’t have expected.

Let’s look at how the University of Utah’s secret societies tie together the Bountiful pedophile ring, and the David Hamblin ritual abuse case, which if it were ever allowed to move forward (@GovCox “soft killed” this trial by promoting an incompetent prosecutor to a judgeship last year), would lead straight to the doorstep of the Church Office Building due to the relationship of well over a dozen “prophets, seers, and revelators” who have affiliated with and supported Utah’s Teflon Don, alleged serial child predator Gordon Bowen.

Ready? Let’s start untangling this web.

This thread involves ongoing research. By no means is it complete. It should serve to show the clear and direct ties between the Bountiful pedophile story, the David Hamblin/David Leavitt/University of Utah secret Skull and Bones, and CURRENT LDS CHURCH LEADERSHIP, however.

BOUNTIFUL PAPERDOLLS MAJOR PLAYERS:

Nicholas Groesbeck Smith Jr.:


Nicholas Smith Jr's Oldest Brother = Gerald Smith (Sigma Chi & SKULL & BONES 1931 - Mission president of the infamous NY Rochester/Hill Cumorah Mission 1959-1962 - Same mission David Hamblin served in the early 70's). findagrave.com/memorial/19705…
legacy.com/us/obituaries/…

The "Groesbeck" middle name comes from his paternal grandmother, Josephine Groesbeck Smith


Josephine Groesbeck Smith's brother, Hyrum is the grandfather of 1946 Owl & Key member, Robert Roy Groesbeck, making Robert Roy Groesbeck and Nicholas Groesbeck Smith 2nd Cousins

Robert "Bob" Roy Groesbeck: President of Beta Theta Pi & Owl & Key same years as Russell M Nelson (1946). Robert's father, Roy, was also an alumnus of the UofU and fraternity member.

findagrave.com/memorial/55566…
findagrave.com/memorial/97671…

Nicholas G Smith Jr.'s father's connection to the Hamblin case. Nick Sr. is mentioned by Carma De Jong Anderson in a BYU magazine article from 2011 as being the former missionary that interacted with the De Jong family in Amsterdam. By "coincidence", Nicholas Smith Sr. just happened to be the first people the De Jong's ran into when they arrived from Holland to SLC in the early 1900's:



"Though the de Jongs had not joined the Church in Holland, they had been friendly to the missionaries, often serving them meals, Anderson says. “The de Jongs were really surprised when the first person they saw after the train stopped in Salt Lake City was Nicholas G. Smith, a missionary to whom they had sold stiff collars and cuffs.” The former missionary was also surprised, saying that the de Jongs were the last people he ever expected to meet in Utah."

Nicholas Groesbeck Smith Sr.'s Half Brother was LDS President George Albert Smith.magazine.byu.edu/article/father…

Marion Burrows Smith:

Marion Burrows Smith's Parents: J. Alma Burrows & Leah Burton Burrows:






Leah Burton Burrows' father and Marion Burrows Smith's maternal grandfather was Edward L Burton (History attached below)





The Burton, Burrows, Smith, Michie Zions Bank business/family connection



findagrave.com/memorial/24610…
findagrave.com/memorial/39567…
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deseret.com/1990/2/11/1884…
ancestors.familysearch.org/en/KWCZ-CVR/ed…
newspapers.com/image/59858664…
zionspf.com/utah
deseret.com/1989/2/14/1879…

I’m going to only drop some names here that relate to the Smith children, that have to do with secret societies and the Hamblin case:

Jim Jardine
Joe Bennion
Judge James R Michie's uncle, D. Kent Michie - member of Skull & Bones 1967:

1967 Utonian Skull & Bones Kent Michie:

collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=746…

As a side-note, for anyone questioning the ties between Yale & UofU's Skull & Bones, make sure to read the yearbook entry describing the UofU's Skull & Bones origins:

"Skull & Bones was founded at Yale University in 1882, and on may 18, 1909, eleven men of the junior class of the University of Utah became charter members of the society at this school."

Don’t ever let them gaslight you into believing anything else: Utah’s Skull and Bones was a direct extension of Yale’s Skull and Bones.

This next set is names is very difficult for me to publish, because it involves one of my heroes. But the documents say what they say, so here we go:

Lavina Fielding Anderson Info:

Article on Nicholas G Smith Sr.

"Coincidentally", Lynne Kanavel Whitesides is reference #1 in the article. Lynne is also listed extensively in the Hamblin VS as a participant in ritual abuse.dialoguejournal.com/articles/a-min…

LAVINA FIELDING ANDERSON: Husband = Paul Lawrence Anderson:

Paul's Obituary contains some MAJOR red flags::



According to the obituary, Paul met his wife, Lavina Fielding while working with "alleged" CS member and LDS Church historian Leonard J Arrington. At the time, Lavina was was an associate editor of the Ensign.

Paul L Anderson and Hamblin Victims Statements named LDS Church of Satan member, Paul R Larsen, were close friends and next door neighbors in SLC.larkinmortuary.com/obituary/view/…

Paul Robert Larsen & Ann Fluckiger Larsen lived @ 1527 S Roberta St Salt Lake City, UT 84115 from the mid 1980's until 2022. Home is in the Salt Lake Liberty Stake, Whittier Ward.

Paul & Ann Larsen are both named extensively within the Hamblin Victims Statement docs as major participants in the Hamblin ritual abuse ceremonies.

Ann Fluckiger Larsen is LDS General Young Men’s 1st counselor, Michael T. Nelson's sister-in-law through wife Barbara Fluckiger Nelson:



Paul Lawrence Anderson and Lavina Fielding Anderson lived @ 1519 S Roberta St Salt Lake City, UT 84115 from the Mid 1980's to his death in 2018.

From the obituary: "He was a counselor in the bishopric with Paul Larsen, and the two of them high-jacked the Scout program when they felt the boys were suffering from a too-high turnover among Scoutmasters."

Paul Larsen and his wife, Ann Fluckiger Larsen (Michael T. Nelson's sister-in-law) are identified as participating extensively in ritualistic abuse throughout the Hamblin Victims Statements.legacy.com/us/obituaries/…

Another brief pause. Michael T. Nelson is the Stake President who drove a woman from his Stake hours away from her home and participated in committing her to a mental institution against her will. She was only freed after citizen journalists set up camp outside McKay Dee, and started bringing unwanted attention to the matter. Read about that at

The entire youth program of the church is led by men like Michael T. Nelson and Skull and Bones progeny, Emily Belle Freeman. Yikes.ldsabuse.info/research

Paul Anderson was an Architect by profession working closely with the church's historical dept. renovating important historical sites - including the Jacob Hamblin home in St. George (This is the "Indian Whisperer" ancestor David Hamblin "worshipped" and family he named his children after).

Ralph Hardy Jr. & Senator Gordon Smith Research:



DC Stake President's history:

Gordon Smith's father, Milan was stake president 1957-1970



All of Gordon & Sharon's children are adopted***

Gordon Smith was bishop in Pendleton OR in late 80's to early 90's.

Gordon Smith's father, Milan Dale Smith worked under Ezra Taft Benson during the Eisenhower administration. Ezra Taft Benson had a long correspondence with FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, which can be found at my website.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washingto…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_H.…
washingtonpost.com/archive/local/…

Gordon's 21 year old son, Garrett Lee Smith's obituary:



Committed Suicide one day before 22nd birthday:



Picture of Garrett & Details of Suicide:



Suicide note: "Put me in the ground and forget about me"

Longer Story of Garrett’s depression (from age 10):

eastoregonian.com/records/garret…
newspapers.com/image/61361710…
wbur.org/hereandnow/201…
religionnews.com/2006/04/25/us-…

Again, this is just a start. What’s clear is that the University of Utah’s secret society system has been pumping out men and women directly associated with Utah’s child sex abuse problem for generations now, including men and women whose children and grandchildren end up being caught up in these relationships, and end up as victims of sexual abuse.

The relationships are there; it can’t be denied. Are we going to continue to ignore the problem, and pretend it doesn’t exist?

I need to get to work. I’ll be back during my lunch break to drop more. Take care, everyone.

Here’s the fruit if these secret societies, for those who missed it last night. Top LDS leadership protecting pedophiles, because their children are alleged to have participated in the crimes against children:

https://x.com/ldsabuse/status/1788059211924148713?s=46