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Dale Johnson Profile picture
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May 22 • 11 tweets • 3 min read • Read on X
So, Atalanta win the Europa League.

That presents a host of questions about:

🔷 How many places in Champions League for Serie A
🔷 What happens to place in UCL for the UEL titleholders
🔷 What happens to seeding for the 2024-25 UCL, 👀 Barcelona

Pull up a chair a moment.
1. How many places will Serie A get in the Champions League?

We know Italy will have 5 teams in the UCL next season as they have one of the 2 extra places for league performance.

Atalanta are 5th. If they finish 5th, and 5th only, Italy will have 6 teams in the UCL.
AS Roma are guaranteed to finish in 6th, so they are left waiting on Atalanta's final position.

If Atalanta finish 5th, AS Roma will be in the UCL.

If Atalanta finish 3rd or 4th, AS Roma will be in the UEL.

Atalanta sit two points outside the top 4 with a game in hand.
But there's a complication. Atalanta's game in hand is vs. Fiorentina.

Because Atalanta reached the Coppa Italia final, and both made it to European finals, there's been nowhere to fit the match in.

So it's being played on June 2 - a week after the end of the Serie A season.
It means that, depending on results this weekend, Atalanta could go into that "extra" game in 5th.

So AS Roma could be sat waiting for a week ... hoping that Atalanta lose to Fiorentina on June 2 to finish 5th ... and give AS Roma a place in the Champions League.
2. This affects the titleholder rebalancing too.

Benfica need Atalanta to finish 3rd or 4th to go direct to UCL group stage.

If Atalanta finish 5th, they will take up the UEL titleholder place, Serie A have only 1 team in UEL through the league, and Benfica have to qualify.
3. And finally!

Barcelona face an anxious wait for Pot 1 of the UCL group stage draw.

If Atalanta finish 3rd or 4th, Barcelona will be in Pot 1.

If Atalanta finish 5th, AS Roma will qualify and as they have a higher coefficient than Barca, it means Barca will be in Pot 2.
Defeat tonight means Bayer Leverkusen will be in Pot 2 for the draw.

As of next season, only the UCL titleholders are automatically in Pot 1, and not the UEL winners or domestic champions.

Pots are all ordered by club coefficient.
A reminder, if Fiorentina win the UECL and finish outside top 7, Serie A has NINE teams in Europe.

1-5 UCL
6 UCL or UEL (depending on Atalanta's final position)
7 UEL

If Fiorentina finish 8th:
8 UEL, Fiorentina
9 UECL

If Fiorentina finish 9th, 10th:
8 UECL
Fiorentina in UEL
Fiorentina are 6 points behind 7th place with two games to play, with Lazio (7th) playing a relegated team this weekend.

So, there's a strong likelihood that if Fiorentina win the UECL, Italy will indeed have NINE teams.

Torino and Napoli are battling for 9th.
If Italy does end up with 9 teams in Europe next season it will be much more difficult to get one of the EPS places again.

Wins and bonus points will be worth less as it's an average of clubs.

Every win for an Italian club would be worth 0.222.
For England and Spain, 0.285.

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Apr 16
Sick of keepers holding the ball for 30-40 seconds to waste time or slow down play?

The [unenforced] law says a keeper can only hold the ball for 6 seconds. Any longer and it's an indirect FK to the opposition.

We now have details of The IFAB trial to change it.

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As well as wasting time, a goalkeeper holding the ball for too long is considered an unfair tactic because the opposing team has no possibility to regain possession.

That's because a goalkeeper cannot be challenged when in control of the ball with the hand(s).
A keeper holding the ball for more than 6 seconds should be punishable by an indirect free kick.

However, we have got to the stage where this is rarely enforced by referees, which in recent years has been exploited tactically.

So, why not enforced the law as it stands today?
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Nov 30, 2023
Mauro Icardi's offside in Galatasaray vs. Manchester United gives us a good illustration of how semi-automated technology will be more accurate and reliable - yet may lead to more goals being disallowed.

This was ruled out on the field, but stay with me.
There's a common misconception that handball starts at the bottom of the sleeve.

This isn't the case.

It's the arm point level with the armpit - if you had it by your side - around the whole arm.

Basically, the area of the arm which can't increase body size if you move it. Image
The starting point for offside (and handball) is therefore an imaginary line on the arm.

With the old tech, the point on the attacker and defender is plotted manually by the VAR and operator.

This obviously has to cause inconsistencies, and it's why there's a tolerance level.
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Sep 30, 2023
Ok, here's the nuts and bolts.

This is what happened with the Luis Diaz "goal" which Liverpool had disallowed vs. Tottenham.

There will be a deeper dive in the Monday VAR thread, but in simple terms the VAR took the wrong onfield decision - it led to the goal being disallowed.
So the VAR, Darren England, checked offside thinking the onfield decision was "goal."

It was a quick offside check because it was clear Diaz was onside, so he told the referee "check complete".

In telling the ref "check complete" he is saying the onfield decision was correct.
So the "human error" by the VAR team is getting the onfield decision wrong. Not by failing to draw lines etc.

The lines were drawn and Diaz was clearly onside.

The huge, quite unbelievable error was misunderstanding the onfield decision.
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Sep 6, 2023
So the dust has settled on the first VAR audio show of the year with Howard Webb.

Time for a little old-school VAR thread to go through it.

I'll include the video clips.
We got 2 of the 3 big errors in the Premier League this season - the penalty not given against Andre Onana vs. Wolves + the offside goal Man City scored against Fulham.

It didn't include Alexis Mac Allister's red card, which has been the main point of complaint in my comments.
It would have been better to include that Mac Allister red, especially as it was overturned on appeal.

But then if you include Mac Allister, you drop something else (Zaroury?). And you absolutely have to include the examples of good process to show where VAR works.
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Aug 11, 2023
Getting lots of comments about Lee Mason's return to PGMOL, and they're fair. I'm surprised too.

But he isn't working in the Premier League, he will be a coach in League One and League Two.

PGMOL is reducing the ratio of coaches to referees, so a lot of roles have been created.
Bottom line is everyone who is appointed as a coach is going to be a former ref, and Lee Mason was obviously vastly experienced.

I've no idea if he will be good as a coach, after a pretty dismal end to his career on the pitch and in the VAR room, but understand the reaction.
Howard Webb said: "We're going to be ensuring that [Lee Mason] is exposed to all the upskilling that our professional coach workforce needs. He went through a pretty thorough assessment process alongside others that have come in as well into this enhanced coaching group.
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Jan 26, 2023
FIFA publishes the top 10 international player transfers by total transfer fee in 2022.

Includes:
Luis Diaz, Darwin Nunez to Liverpool
Antony, Casemiro to Man United
Erling Haaland to Man City
Alexander Isak to Newcastle
Raphinha to Barcelona

(list is not in fee order)
The domination of English football in the transfer market laid bare.

The top 5 country-to-country transfer routes are all to England.

France to England the most lucrative market in 2022.
Man United the biggest spenders on transfer fees in the world in 2022.

Of the top 10, 7 are Premier League clubs.

Leeds 10th.
Nottingham Forest 14th.
Everton 15th.

Chelsea (16th) might be a bit higher next year.....
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