1/ We recently published our numbers for remaining T-80B/BV tanks in russian storage. In this thread I will try to estimate the number of active tanks of this type to get a better understanding of how long we can expect to see them on the battlefield.⬇️
2/ First of all here are the numbers in a table and you can also find them in the video linked below.
3/ To understand why the T-80B/BV are so important I have asked @whitherapathy to make me a graph of the share of T-80B/BV among the destroyed and captured tanks registered by Oryx. As you can see the type has made up a significant share of the losses since mid 2022.
4/ Interestingly Russia only had about 120 T-80BV (MB 2022) in active service at the start of 2022, which shows that many stored tanks of this type were likely in good condition and activated quickly. The T-80BV seems to have been the main replacment for modern tank losses.
5/ Accoording to Oryx there are 618 entries for T-80B/BV variants and to keep the caclculations simple I will assume 650 losses. Additionally Russia has been upgrading some of the stored tanks to T-80BVM and I will assume that ~150 T-80B/BV were used for this purpose.
6/ In total they have probably either upgraded or lost 800 T-80B/BV tanks and removed between 925 to 1700 from storage, depending on how many they had in the garages. This would suggest an active T-80B/BV fleet of 250 to 1020 including the 120 pre-war active tanks.
7/ The most likely numbers are probably right in the middle somewhere between 500-800 tanks and about 280 remaining in storage. I think it is likely that the stored tanks are held back to be upgraded to T-80BVM (or other upgrade package).
8/ In this chart (by @whitherapathy) you can see that Oryx records more than 20 T-80B/BV losses in some months. If we assume that the only T-80B/BVs being sent to the front by now are repaired units then the active fleet might shrink to 380-580 tanks by the end of the year.
9/ We will probably see the share of T-80B/BV in the russian tank fleet decline further over time, although this might not be visible in the losses since the whole active tank fleet is likely shrinking as well.
10/ One problem with this analysis could be that Russia has announced to restart T-80 production. I dont think that this will happen in relevant numbers, but the effort might enable them to reactivate more hulls from storage and keep more damaged tanks running.
11/ There are also some T-80 tanks at the 61st and 103rd BTRZ, which I dont consider reactivateable. Additionally they have been removing many of the stored T-80U/UDs recently from the 22nd and I dont know how these might be used in the future.
@Strien9 There is another issue with the possibility of 6000 losses: they might have removed 2,5k tanks from visible storage and had ~3,3k in active service so they must have taken at least 2,2k from garages, which is not impossible but also not very likely in my opinion.
@Strien9 Assuming a current active tank fleet of 2000. If this number is higher then the number of tanks in garages has to be even higher.
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1/ Here are some interesting things I found in the new high resolution imagery from the russian 111th storage base. ⬇️
2/ Looking at tank and BMP numbers over the years since the 2022, it is clear that this base has been a large provider of tanks (mostly T-80, T-62 and some T-55).
3/ All T-80s have likely been removed and only some hulls that were partially scrapped in 2022 remain. Interestingly these have been moved from the red area to the area marked in blue. They might try to safe the hulls eventhough they have been without a turret for two years.
1/ Getting reliable data regarding attrition of the Russian artillery forces is very hard, but there are some trends that can be observed based on what is being removed from the storage bases, which I will present in this thread.⬇️
2/ Here are the equipment numbers visible on satelite images. Almost 11000 towed artillery units, self-propelled guns and towed mortars have been removed from visible storage since the start of the invasion.
3/ A large inital drop in the number of stored artillery systems can be observed. These were likely needed for the force expansion after the mobilization, since towed guns can be reactivated faster than SPGs, which have been removed at a more linear rate of roughly 900 per year.
1/ Since the start of the invasion Russia has removed at least 8300 units of towed artillery and mortars from their storage bases. I will provide some additional information to the count we published recently.
2/ First of all I would like to explain the new ID system. I tried to make more use of measuring the guns to put them into categories. I would like to thank @bentanmy , for looking into which systems might be in storage based on guns removed for exhibits.
3/ I have also linked all of his threads about the individual systems below. Interestingly there were even ZiS-2 and ZiS-3 removed from storage for exhibits.
1/ Here is our updated count of self propelled guns at Russian storage sites, with data points for 2022, 2023 and 2024. With @CovertCabal ⬇️
2/ As usual here is the data. Russia has so far removed roughly 1700 SPGs from storage and 60% of of their stocks remain at the bases in various conditions.
3/ Interstingly some systems have been removed at a roughly linear rate: ~220 per year for the 2S1, ~160 for the 2S3 and ~140 for the 2S9.
1/ Someone should update the "List of equipment of the Russian ground forces" on Wikipedia with Military Balance 2024 numbers. ⬇️ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_e…
2/ Many bad assesments of Russian equipment are based on numbers from , which in turn seems to be at least partially relying on the Wikipedia article I mentioned above:globalfirepower.com
3/ The main problem with this article is that it is using some outdated numbers from The Military Balance 2022 that were corrected in 2023 and 2024.
1/ This thread aims to provide some open-source and reproducible facts about Russian pre-war tank storage. ⬇️
2/ The main reason I am writing this thread is that the only other source (except our previous counts) is The Military Balance 2022 (10200 tanks: 7000 T-72, 3000 T-80 and 200 T-90), which they have later corrected in TMB2023 and TMB2024.
3/ The IISS lists 5000 tanks of all types in storage for 2023 and 4000 for 2024, which are both very reasonable numbers. This is cleary not only an adjustment of the numbers caused by the war, but also a re-evaluation. Sadly these numbers are only quoted rarely.