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Jul 2 12 tweets 4 min read Read on X
BREAKING: Trump is seeking to stall his NY sentencing by claiming today’s immunity opinion somehow applies to his convictions for purely personal acts like 2016 election interference and creating phony business docs in 2017

It won’t work—a thread (1/x)

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First, he already raised immunity when he removed the Manhattan case to federal court

He lost

And then he abandoned his appeal! He’s collaterally estopped (2/x)

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In his opinion Judge Hellerstein found that Trump "has expressly waived any argument premised on a theory of absolute presidential immunity"

So it won’t work this time either (3/x) Image
Hellerstein also found that immunity does NOT apply bc the alleged campaign corruption and cover up were purely personal & political

It had nothing to do w/Trump’s official duties—which of course is exactly the test that SCOTUS established today (4/x)

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Despite that, Trump tried a version again before Judge Merchan

He slapped the motion down for being untimely

It hasn’t gotten any more timely now—Trump blew it by not raising before Merchan deadline

(7/x) justsecurity.org/wp-content/upl…
The specific evidence that Trump seems to be complaining about the trial court allowing just doesn't make the cut under the immunity test--not even close

For ex, Trump seems to be kvetching abt official documents like the President's SF-278 financial filings that... (8/x)
...were introduced in the trial.

But the SCOTUS opinion expressly says on pg. 32 that "the prosecutor may point to the public record," and these were public record docs (9/x) Image
Then they apparently have some issues with the use of Trump's tweets like these, but they are also clearly both public & unofficial. That's a makeweight (10/x)

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Then there's the fact that WH aides testified--but it too was abt their 2016 campaign activity or later clearly unofficial matters

I mean Madeleine Westerhout testimony abt how Trump's personal or business checks arrived from NY & were handled is by him in the WH... (11/x)
...is unrelated to official acts. Ditto her or Hope Hicks testifying abt their experiences in the 2016 campaign, or Hicks relating what Trump told her abt the hush money payments (12/x)
For example, here is Westerhout talking about the tweet handling. Tell me again how this is "official acts evidence"? It clearly fails the SCOTUS test (13/x)
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Trump won't only lose this motion, I also think he should be sentenced to incarceration when the time does come in Sept. as I explain 👇

justsecurity.org/97186/trump-se…

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More from @NormEisen

Jun 27
At tonight’s debate, Trump's conviction for 2016 election interference & cover-up will be front & center

But we should also be talking abt his likely jail sentence that our big @Just_Security report discusses

A thread 1/x

justsecurity.org/97186/trump-se…
@just_security Trump was convicted of falsifying business records to cover up 2016 election interference by a jury of his peers

And on 7/11, the judge will decide what his sentence will be 2/x
@just_security Tho substantial arguments can be made for & against a sentence of incarceration for Trump, they should be based on accurate info--including how other FBR cases are treated

We gathered case files & data from across New York state to find out just that 3/x
Read 14 tweets
Jun 20
This McConnell piece ⁦@WSJ⁩ should be on the syllabus for a disinformation class. To take only 1 example, the jury WAS unanimous on all the elements of the verdict & prosecutors theory of the case was disclosed to the defense in 2023! A thread 1/x wsj.com/articles/why-r…
For example here is the March 2023 response to Trump’s request for Bill of particulars fully disclosing ALL the alternative “other crimes” that made this document falsification a felony, including the state election conspiracy 2/x justsecurity.org/wp-content/upl…
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And here is the November 2023 filing breaking down one of those crimes, the New York State election conspiracy crime, which the prosecution ultimately focused on— including specifying all of the unlawful “means.” 3/x justsecurity.org/wp-content/upl…
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Jun 7
It is amazing to me that people would jump to conclusions about this apparent malicious prank message in the court’s Facebook page. How do we know it is likely a prank? THREAD Image
Look at the Facebook page of “Michael Anderson,” they call themselves a “professional shitposter”

2/xfacebook.com/profile.php?id…
They admitted this was a prank a few minutes ago 3/x Image
Read 8 tweets
May 23
Another day & another delay from SCOTUS on Trump’s bizarre presidential immunity claims delaying his January 6th case

The pro-Trump Justice Alito/Thomas axis is openly complicit in helping Trump dodge justice

THREAD👇
There's no reason for delay on Trump's baseless immunity claims, SCOTUS decided monumental cases quickly:

Pentagon papers: 4 days
Watergate tapes: 16 days
Trump CO ballot status: 25 days

If the same consideration was applied to the J6 case, we would have had a ruling by May 20
Today marks:

28 days after arguments in the appeal of the D.C. Circuit's unanimous decision rejecting Trump's extreme immunity claims

101 days since Trump appealed

164 days since DOJ originally asked SCOTUS to take up the case

There is no excuse
Read 12 tweets
Apr 29
I am amazed at critics of the 2016 election interference trial of Trump who get the most basic facts wrong

The DA has specified intent to conceal not just one but THREE other crimes

That has been litigated, judge has accepted & all 3 are being proven to jury daily!

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The DA spelled this out almost A YEAR AGO in May 2023 the Response to Trump’s Request for a Bill of Particulars

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Then Judge Hellerstein of SDNY ruled in July 2023 (on the removal petition) that using federal campaign crimes as 1 of the other crimes Trump intended to conceal was NOT preempted


at 17-24

3/xstorage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…
Read 7 tweets
Apr 23
My friend @jedshug has a new & profoundly wrong essay @nytopinion about the Trump NY trial

It's a follow up to the one he wrote last year where ALL of his major points were ultimately proven incorrect (as he partially admits, 2his credit)

This one is even more wrong-headed 1/x
@jedshug @nytopinion It's all the more disappointing because Jed is a smart guy

He starts out ok by tacitly acknowledging he was wrong last year:

"I thought an array of legal problems would and should lead to long delays in federal courts."

Nope. Didn't happen as we all now know 2/x
But then he veers into the ditch, claiming DANY opening was a "vague allegation about a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election”

No, no 1000x no. I was in court & it was exact opposite:

A highly particularized presentation of powerful evidence 3/x
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