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Please allow me one more thread on the immunity ruling. The substantial wrench SCOTUS has thrown in the NY case against Trump comes solely from one passage in the decision, section III-C, and it relies on a weird, inexplicable detour in CJ Roberts’ reasoning. ...
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... Until III-C, the ruling is based on separation of powers arguments & its policy goal is to ensure that presidents can act “without undue caution” & “free from undue pressures & distortions.” But in III-C, Roberts suddenly veers off course into a discussion of jury bias ...
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... Until then, remember, his ruling only erects limits on prosecutions for *official* acts.” If he’d stopped there, the ruling would have had had no impact on Trump’s NY convictions, which are for purely unofficial acts. ...
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... But in III-C, Roberts turns to whether prosecutors can present official acts as proof of crimes involving unofficial acts. NY prosecutors *did* introduce some such evidence. And this is where Roberts’ reasoning gets so tortured that he loses Justice Barrett (below). ...
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... Roberts suddenly raises the specter that, if jurors hear about an official act, even while adjudicating crimes relating to*unofficial* acts, they’ll run a “unique risk” of becoming “prejudiced by their views of the president’s policies and performance while in office.” ...
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... Legally, this is beyond strange. 1st, I don’t remember any briefing on this issue. 2d, I don’t think it came up at oral argument. 3d, it has nothing to do with separation of powers. 4th, it has nothing to do with assuring “undistorted” presidential decisionmaking. ...
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... 5th, the criminal justice system has many ways to fight jury bias,
beginning with elaborate jury selection processes. 6th—& as Justice Barrett observes below, in rejecting Section III-C —judges can exclude any piece of evidence if they think it’s unduly prejudicial. ...
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Yet Roberts, with 4 brethren signing on, says that neither jury selection nor evidentiary rules work for ex-presidents with respect to this one narrow category of evidence: official acts. Where does this notion come from? And where does it leave us? ...
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... The notion is also psychologically strange. Roberts seems to theorize that a juror’s potential political bias against an ex-president will be manageable so long as the proof involves unofficial acts, yet will spiral out of control if an official act is mentioned. ...
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... That makes no sense. In the NY case, for instance, potential jurors were vetted extensively about their views of Trump & politics. Roberts theorizes, tho, that they can only listen fairly to Stormy Daniels; they'll become too biased if they hear from Hope Hicks! ...
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... And it’s actually weirder than that. The theory seems to be that the jury can remain fair hearing Hope Hicks describe events from 2016 (during the campaign) but will become too biased if they hear her describe events that occurred in 2018 (when Trump was president). ...
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Voir dire either works or it doesn’t. If you think it won’t work for ex-presidents then, logically, you’d also have to bar trying presidents for unofficial acts. But that would make presidents unambiguously above the law & Roberts doesn't want to admit he's doing that. ...
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... So he makes this illogical compromise with himself. He’ll nominally permit prosecutions for unofficial acts but he’ll exclude *evidence* of official acts—which may end up sabotaging those prosecutions too. Like, oh, say, just for instance, People v Trump in NY. ...
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... How does a mind like CJ Roberts’—who was one of the finest supreme court advocates of his generation—take an unbriefed whim like this and create from it such an illogical obstacle to prosecuting ex-presidents for even *unofficial* acts? ...
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... And how do 4 other justices sign on?
The standard euphemism for 6-3 or 5-4 rulings like this one is to say that the justices voted along “ideological” lines. Here, that’s strained, though...
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... The majority’s ostensible ideologies—originalism, textualism—offer no explanation for the policy-driven outcomes of this case, as conservative critics have noted. (Below.) Even “expansive” views of exec power can’t explain the illogic of III-C ...
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... Politics, tho, might. Subconsciously, might Republican appointees want their party’s candidate’s crimes to go away? Subconsciously, might they sense that they prefer writing majority rulings to dissents & that, with a Democratic Prez, that could change? Hmm.
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The 1st motion, filed 7/10, seeks a new trial, arguing that the DA introduced evidence of official acts barred by SCOTUS’ immunity ruling.
The 2d, filed 12/2, seeks dismissal based on “legal impediment” or “in furtherance of justice.” ...
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Here’s what DA Bragg (DANY) did yesterday in People v Trump, which is actually complicated. Requires understanding Trump’s position—which was also more fully revealed yesterday—& the weird & close-to-hopeless posture of case. ...
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Though late, I want to highlight the case of Zachary Alam, who was sentenced to 8 yrs on 11/7—tied for 16th longest prison term for a J6 defendant. His case shows how Trump’s election lies foreseeably impacted troubled individuals & led to the death of Ashli Babbitt. ...
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... On J6, Alam was almost 30. He had about 20 arrests, mainly drug or alcohol related. He’d graduated from UVa, but dropped out of osteopathic med school in 2015. His father then disowned him, per his mother. Eventually he was living out of a storage unit & his truck ...
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... He would shower at a gym each morning, his atty later wrote. Then Covid hit & gyms closed. His atty’s supplemental sentencing memo—heavily redacted—suggests Alam may also suffer from a long-term medical or psychological issue. ...
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I’ll unpack here my unintelligible thread from last night about Judge Howell’s ruling on the scope of the felony charge “obstruction of an official proceeding” (18 USC 1512c2) after Fischer v US. It impacts many Jan. 6 cases but has only minor impact on US v Trump, IMHO ...
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... In Fischer, SCOTUS held that the law doesn’t apply to rioters who obstruct a hearing by force. It only applies to those who obstruct a hearing (or try to) by “impairing” the “integrity” or “availability” of docs to be used at a proceeding. ...
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NBC asks Judge Chutkan for right to televise US v Trump immunity determination hearings in DC, which "go to the strcuture of American democracy" & “may be [among] most important arguments ever made before any US court.” ...
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... NBC argues that American public has "extraordinary interest" in seeing hearings involving allegations that Trump, "a current nominee for reelection to the Presidency, sought to destroy our nation's democracy for personal benefit." ...
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... "The public should be permitted to see & hear the argument ... that will determine who is subject to the law, and to what extent." ...
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