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Aug 12 13 tweets 5 min read Read on X
Ukrainian Intelligence hit a gold mine on Russian Logistics in near real time!

The capture of Sudzha may not seem grand on a map but the capture of the railway station may allow Ukrainian Intelligence direct access into Russian Railway Computer Systems, Schedules, Train Consists, and internal Russian Railway Communications from Dispatch to Defect Detectors.

Sudzha station besides being part of the Lgov-Belgorod Line that I've highlighted previously is part of the Moscow Railway division, which must be causing panic in Russian High Command knowing that the enemy has real time capability to view your logistical movements.

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Nice part is you can't really shut this thing off. A lot of those defect detectors and the signal sensors are automated. The only way you're shutting it off is if you go out there and rip the whole system apart. Which they're not going to do because that's insanely expensive and creates insane risk and safety issues for both passenger and freight rail and would leave trains out on the track completely blind as to what's in front of them so you can't really shut it off
Also, a lot of those systems transmit via radio automatically. They are tripped when a train goes by. So even if they lost access to the computer, they would now have the frequencies needed to listen in on those sensors and detectors. Which again you physically can't turn off unless you go out there and rip them apart which they're not going to do. The systems are designed so that the train out in the middle of nowhere has an ability to know if they are safe and to know what's in front of them and what's behind them. Can't shut it off
Then to get an idea of a dispatch center. Here's a short video. Doesn't explain much. It just shows it. Now dispatch center is different from a train station such as Sudzha but you can get an idea. A lot of this is going to be physically showing a dispatcher all of that radio information is being transmitted by all of these defect detectors and the signal sensors you can't turn it off can't fire wall it and even if the Russians drop a bomb on the train station, ukrainians are already likely have hauled away all the important information such as the train maps, the timetables, all physical documents, frequencies and can do with the old fashioned way if necessary. Listen to the radio and stare at a map with a pen and paper
There are more modern train dispatch centers that are more digitalized, but a lot of rail infrastructure is still living with pretty antiquated technologies. Not necessarily a bad thing in this day and age but it just really showcases how there's nothing to shut off really

It's also not just the train station.

Sudzha is the administrative capital of Sudzhanskyy Rayon so the amount of juicy intelligence sitting in the administrative buildings and this town is one giant intelligence Cash cow that Ukraine was able to seize with minimal casualties, minimal damage and more importantly was able to seize before Russian forces were able to destroy the documents and other useful intelligence in Sudzha.
You could if you went out to every single one of those detectors and cut the wires physically. But then you create a huge safety issue between freight and passenger rail and just general rail safety issues of trains running around. Not knowing if there's a training coming down at them because the signals wouldn't tell them what's ahead. Switches wouldn't be properly operated because they wouldn't know if there's a train there on top of the defect detectors which are designed to tell a train if there's something wrong so they can't really shut it off
@simon_wookey But at the end of the day you don't really need a computer monitor with a train map. Color coded when you can look at the raw information that comes in from the detectors and you can sit there looking at a railroad timetable that's how they used to do it
@Riyan4469 @ericspinder @GeViOz @Lowcant And then there's the fact that literally everything even today is still printed out on the railroads. Train consists maps. Everything is printed out so you're also going to have hard copies of at least everything up through the weekend
@Riyan4469 @ericspinder @GeViOz @Lowcant And then information on individual cars and locomotive's. You should be able to pull that up even if you're offline cuz it gets backed up all the time on top of hard copy reports
@Riyan4469 @ericspinder @GeViOz @Lowcant But in terms of the detectors and sensors that are out on the tracks. You can't shut those down unless you go out there and destroy it. But other data like no employee information, schedules, data on individual cars, stuff like that it's going to be a digital footprint

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Aug 12
Well it looks like we'll have to address some of David's false claims about trains because Sudzha is part of the Russian primary rail network. This station has been in operation the entire length of the war. There was one partisan attack on one of the bridges south of the town in May of 2022. They sent the Russian Railways and the zhv and had a brand new bridge installed within 48 hours to keep uninterrupted freight rail flowing down and this train station was only closed for the first time in this war last Friday.

We will have to go over how Russia has had almost complete freedom of movement for it. Conducting rail operations this entire War. The number of times locomotive have been attacked by Ukraine. I can count on one hand. The number of times Russian zhv has been attacked. I can count on one hand. The amount of times critical rail infrastructure has been attacked. I can count on two hands and this idea that Russia won't be using a train station like Sudzha which is literally operated the entire War because it's in range of Ukrainian musicians. Guess what Tsar train is 5 mi from the line of contact and trains go down at every single day unharassed not a single attack and the Surovikin line yeah Russia's main GLOC Maine is a single rail line that's in the range the entire length and the amount of times that's been attacked I can count on one hand. The new rail line from Mariupiol 2 attacks One of which was on the granite quarry and the other completely missed the rail bridge no follow-on.Image
Perhaps go read up on the ZHV and the MTO brigades. Or really look at any of Russia's military logistical doctrine that really hasn't had drastic change since the Cold War in those exercises that they did right before invading, Ukraine and Belarus that was with the MTO brigades to try and iron out issues.
But sure David, the Russians hopped in their t62 and drove the tank all the way up over 600 km on the interstate. Instead of putting it I don't know on a train and having it transferred via the MTO Brigade whose literal job is to be the logistical support for a CAA.
Also it's literally faster to transport by train than to drive. Especially when you talk about moving an entire unit's worth of equipment. Whether it's a regiment, a battalion, a brigade or division, it's going to get there far faster by rail than by truck or by road.
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Aug 10
The likely Ukrainian objective is at Belaya. Securing of Belaya will allow Ukraine to have complete control of the main and most likely southern approach to Sudzha by road and rail for Russian Forces. Securing Belaya will be able to act as a FOB and check any Russian advances in this direction. Immediately North of Belaya is local high ground that also will be able to turn the paths of approach from the south and east into well prepared kill zones. Belaya is also likely a Ukrainian decision point securing this town will give them the option to go two separate directions.

Option 1 follow the road East and go towards Oboyan.

Option 2 follow the road South and go towards Proletarskii/Rakitnoe

Either approach can directly threaten the city of Belgorod.

Taking the southern approach also gives the opportunity to potentially link up with Ukrainian forces IVO Grayvoron should this develop into third mutually supporting axis of offensive.

Red GPS icon is where Ukrainian forward elements were spotted.
Blue stars are likely decision points/objectives
Black line and black icons are the railroads
Red line is Russian defensive fortifications.

Yellow and orange shaded areas are Ukrainian occupied areas and likely minimal Ukrainian presence.

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UPDATE: Belaya is likely under Ukrainian control.

Ukrainian decision point has been reached and have taken option 1 driving towards Oboyan clashing with Russian forces just outside of the town. Should the Ukrainians reach Oboyan they will have access to the E105 Highway. Gaining access onto this highway will sever a major and critical Russian GLOC from Kursk to Belgorod.

Source Russian Telegram Channel Two Majors claims that the size of the Ukrainian new breakthrough is 'several dozens of km' further south from Sudzha They say that Oboyan, located 65 km from the border, can hear the noise of the battle..Image
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Read 15 tweets
Aug 9
Maps for the moment based on Russian Reporting Ukrainian forces have deployed mines along the road from Suzhda to Belitsa, preventing direct access for Russians. (Highlighted in Orange) The Lgov-Belgorod Railway also traverse is the same area with several Rail Bridges there's no mention of them in the reporting though. Personally it is likely they are mining the road. They're also deploying mines near the bridges.
An Likely indicator that Ukraine
have done this yesterday with the announcement of several Railway stations being closed by the Russian Railways a station that was on that list is the Psel train station in Giri and Sudzha indicating the whole line is shut down. The placement of mines along the strip will delay the Russians and or force them to traverse further north further delaying a Russian response from Belgorod and Kharkiv making Russian forces have to practically go all the way up to Kursk and come at Ukrainian forces from the north.

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Russian railroads and bridges are black lines and icons.

Russian defensive lines defensive lines are dark red lines.

Yellow is likely under Ukrainian control/influence

Orange likely has minimal ukrainian presence.
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Aug 8
I'll have to merge these maps together later tonight but Russia has lost control of the Lgov-Belgorod Rail line. A 🇺🇦 Battalion-sized element from the 22nd Mechanized Brigade supported by roughly a battalion-sized element from the 88th Mechanized Brigade reached the tracks yesterday afternoon in Sudzha. Interestingly Ukrainian forces made an attempt with the 82nd Air Assault Brigade also roughly a battalion-sized element to take the town of Korenevo.

Korenevo is an interesting choice because it has a rail line that goes from Lgov directly into Ukraine to the town of Vorozhba.

The tracks from Vorozhba go directly to Sumy and Kyiv.

It is Highly Likely that securing the town of Korenevo is a must objective for Ukrainian forces. This will allow them to establish a direct rail line from Ukraine into Kursk Oblast and be able to bring in significant quantities of equipment and supplies. I think the difference between the Kursk Incursion being a Raid in Force vs a Offensive rests on the capture of Korenevo

Maps are from @MalcontentmentT and @LovelyLad_

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This may also explain why Ukraine has brought a significant amount of air defense with them. If they are seeking to try and bust open a door into Kursk Oblast they need to defend the logistical hub and push Russian Aviation away and that logistical hub is Korenevo.
Essentially if they fail they can maintain their position. It's easy to defend and they can just continue to harass the Russians from a easily defendable position and at the same time maintain direct control or direct fire control over the Lgov-Belgorod railroad severing a key Russian GLOC for Task Group North while at the same time putting all kinds of logistical pressure on the city of Belgorod as well by forcing all rail traffic to go down a single line from Belgorod to Bulanets. which would be prone to OWA-UAV attack. So even if the ukrainians fail in busting a door open into Kursk they have the ability to just maintain position and put logistical strain on the Russian forces in Kharkiv and Belgorod and they would be able to withdraw whenever they want and maintain a narrative that it was just a raid.
Read 12 tweets
Aug 7
Using the map by @MalcontentmentT of reported ukrainian advances in Sudzha so you can see where the Ukrainian presence is in relation to Russian defensive lines and Russian GLOC for Task Group North utilized by Russian Railways and the ZHV.

Black dashed line is the railroad
Red icons are railroad Bridges
Blue X's are border crossings
Shaded yellow area is reported Ukrainian presence
Red solid lines are Russian defensive lines.

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It's purported air defense is highly likely to be additional Buk-M1 FrankenSam yesterday 2 such systems where destroyed.
@tom_bike always does amazing independent work. Looking at combat related fire from satellite imagery and is able to corroborate some of the mapping that has been done on alleged Ukrainian advances in Sudzha sector.

Read 5 tweets
Aug 7
Why Sudzha axis of attack by Ukraine? A short thread.

First terrain taking the localized high ground can give them fire control over insanely critical GLOC for the 🇷🇺 Task Group North. Which will be highlighted in later tweets. Image
The Sudzha axis sits one of the primary rail lines that goes to Belgorod which is the main logistics depot for Task Group North in Kharkiv. Having direct fire control over this rail line shutting it down.
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Economic and Energy factors, the natural gas pipeline that flows to Hungary enters Ukraine at Sudzha this line has been shut off by the Russians since the beginning of the war, though taking this junction would be a useful propaganda victory to leverage against 🇷🇺 and 🇭🇺
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