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What a ridiculous, glib view of style. Let's discuss. 🧵
It's true that fashion once served as a form of class differentiation, and as soon as hoi polloi caught on, the elite moved on. German sociologist wrote about this in this 1902 essay On Fashion. An excerpt: Image
This largely explains why the Duke of Windsor was the most influential male fashion figure of his day. He popularized belts, zippered flies, cuffed trousers, and a style of tailoring known as the drape cut. For a while, when he wore something, others followed. Image
But as the century marched forward, fashion influence switched from just those with financial capital to those with cultural capital. This switch is most neatly represented during the immediate post-war years, when the culture wars was reflected in clothes.
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American men returning home from the trenches of Europe were able to receive a free college education through the GI Bill. Consequently, many adopted bourgeoisie mores and ended up becoming some version of The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit.
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Those not afforded such opportunities formed a kind of American underclass, and they created their own fashions. My friend Bruce Boyer writes about this in his book Rebel Style. This was the rise of workwear, zoot suits, and "proletarian fashion."
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Although there has always been countercultural fashion, we see an explosion of these styles across the US and Western Europe after the war: swing kids and hep cats; bikers, rockers and outlaws; beats and beatniks; modernists and mods; drag and dandies; hippies and bohemians. Image
As the post-war period marched forward, the appeal of the suit started to wane. Remember, the suit represented the bourgeoisie (e.g., Man in the Gray Flannel Suit) and the underclass presented an alternative (e.g., Marlon Brando in The Wild One).
Given the anti-war protests, various freedom movements (e.g., Civil Rights movement, feminist movement, and Stonewall), and the Watergate scandal, the suit just increasingly felt less appealing. Image
Tailoring saw a brief resurgence in the 1980s as a backlash to 1970s hippies (e.g., the "greed is good" ethos represented in the film Wall Street). But it met its final blow in the 1990s with the rise of business casual, the tech boom, and newly minted Sand Hill Road billionaires Image
In fact, people like Zuckerberg made jeans and hoodies the new status symbol. This uniform represented meritocracy in the New Economy, which stood opposed to the coat-and-tie aesthetic of traditional industries back east. Turns out, you can still be a bad person in a hoodie
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Meanwhile, as Americans were leaving these aesthetics, Japanese people were picking them up and turning them into rules. There are a ton of publications in Japan that dissect all of these looks—what are the right materials, cuts, styles, etc for a look. Image
Such codifications weren't just for tailoring, but also workwear, hiking style, rockabilly, etc. Lots of cool magazine layouts of "gear," like these photos below. If you want to read about how Japan saved classic American style, pick up David Marx's book Ametora.


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The wealthiest people today dress terribly. It's all some form of bland business casual—slim fit chinos, polos, finance vests, and dress sneakers. If it's a suit, the thing fits terribly and the person has probably mucked it up with some contrasting buttonhole.
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Dressing well today is not about money, but about taste. I often post photos of rich men as bad examples. And the good examples?

1. @DavidLaneDesign (art teacher)
2. @urban_comp (electrician)
3. IG thefoxtooth (realtor)
4. IG therapeuticwhale and @Barima_ON (writers)Image
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Are we supposed to pretend this suit is good tailoring? The trousers are too low, the side seams are straining, the upper sleeve is too tight, and the pattern doesn't match across the pockets. McGregor's "tailor" charges ~$5k for this. You can get the same for $30 at Shein.

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Furthermore, it's ridiculous to suggest I only promote expensive looks when I've spent the last 13 years rounding up quality menswear items on eBay. This takes me ~10 hrs a week. I'd wager that I've dedicated more time to this than most ppl. I've also made suggestions on Twitter:


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Here's a whole thread on affordable stuff you can find on eBay and elsewhere. I have a ton of posts like this on my site (Die, Workwear) and Put This On (where I do most of my service writing)

I've shown examples here of how a cheap suit can look better than an expensive one if you simply develop an eye. Here's a suit costs a whopping $25. IMO, this looks better than McGregor's $5,000 suit.

IG edgyalbert
You also don't have to wear tailoring! While my Twitter acct is now mostly about tailoring bc of the audience size, half my blog is about workwear & casualwear. Just yesterday, I showed these completely thrifted looks from Derrick (IG derrick_b_smith). Image
If I can be accused of anything, it's weaponizing arcane info about menswear that doesn't matter in real life. My views are purely that of a hobbyist and have nothing to do with how rich ppl dress today. Prince William often looks like your average business casual guy now. Image
I mainly take umbrage with with @c_kletzer's critique because I've spent ~15 years trying to make this hobby more accessible to a wide range of people. I spend a lot of time rounding up eBay items, writing articles, and making my info free. Hardly gatekeeping with wealth.

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Sep 5
Here's a thread answering this question on how to shop on a budget. 🧵
1. Think of Style as Social Language

I don't believe there's a single "correct" way to dress. Just as there many languages, each with their own unique grammatical rules, there are many aesthetics, each governed by their own ideas about fit, proportion, and styling.Image
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So my only strong belief is that you should think of style first and foremost as social language, not purely as artistic expression. Aesthetics are rooted in culture—punk, skate, prep, workwear, etc. Identify a cultural language that resonates with you.
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A few people asked me about this, so I will do a thread. As usual, the story starts with a bit of history about socio-economic class. 🧵
As a technique, it's believed that the four-in-hand originated with 19th century British carriage drivers who used this method to wear colorful scarves. This includes members of the exclusive Four-in-Hand Club, which is where we likely get the name. Image
But why was the club called Four-in-Hand? It's because the coach would be pulled by four horses, and the reins of those horses would be carried by one of the driver's hands, leaving the other free to operate the brake. We see a reference to this in a May 1965 issue of the NYT: Image
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If you had to choose, which of these two outfits look better to you? Please decide before opening this thread. 🧵
Even if you don't know anything about color theory, I bet you picked up on the central difference between these two outfits. Although the person behind Obama's Twitter account posted these as two tan suits, they differ in an important dimension: temperature.
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Color temperature is the idea that colors can look warmer or cooler depending on their hue. Think of the movement from candlelight (warm) to blue sky (cool). The more yellow or red you add, the warmer the color. The more grey or blue is in the undertone, the cooler it looks. Image
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Aug 27
Kids never get it wrong. And even when they style clothes in a slightly off way, it only looks more awesome. But here is a guide on how adults can match patterns. 🧵
Edward VIII, later known as the Duke of Windsor, was one of the most stylish men of the 20th century. He popularized belts, zippered flies, cuffed trousers, and a style of tailoring known as the drape cut. He was also a master at matching patterns.
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Of course, he had to be. In September 1997, Sotheby's auctioned off a portion of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor's wardrobes. And inside the catalog, we got to see photos of the Duke of Windsor's actual closet. Look at all those patterns!


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Aug 25
i dont think the ideas around dressing for an athletic figure are that much different from dressing other types of figures. the central prob is that many athletic men have bad taste and think clothes have to fit skin tight to look good, as they want to show off their body 🧵
my friend @urban_comp has a pretty athletic figure. and here you can see three things

— voluminous overcoat
— rounded bomber
— classic tailoring

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the proportions btw these two outfits are not that different: jacket ends halfway from collar to the floor, shoulders have enough breadth to not pull on the sleevehead, trousers are not overly tight and thus flow into jacket's silhouette
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Aug 24
But RFK doesn't look good? He's the worst dressed major politician in this election cycle. Here are some ways he could look better. 🧵
RFK has a very athletic build, which may account for why his jacket's collar often lifts from his neck. It's fine for a jacket's collar to sometimes lift off your neck — be realistic — but RFK's collar gap is so bad that you know it's an issue of fit.
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It's possible to get tailoring that fits an athletic figure well. But depending on the extremeness of your "drop" (difference between chest and waist measurement), you may need custom. Key is to get something that doesn't fit like saran wrap. This is good:
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