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Abortions after 32 weeks are a very small share of total abortions-- perhaps 0.5%. Let's say half of those are not due to unsurvivable conditions, so 0.25% of abortions are very late + could have survived if born.

Given ~1 million abortions, that's 2500 such abortions.

There were about 23,000 homicides in the US in 2023.

If that teeny tiny share of abortions covering very late abortions of totally viable kids without lethal health issues were counted, those extremely rare abortions would compose fully 1-in-10 homicides in the United States.
In 2023, there were only 11,000 deaths of all external causes (accidents, homicides, etc) of people under age 18.

Abortions of health viable children make up 18% of all non-natural-causes deaths of children.
Using the CDC's multiple mortality data, these extremely rare late-term abortions...

... are nonetheless the second biggest cause of death among people under 18 (after congenital immaturity)Image
What I'm hearing from many liberals is, "These abortions of perfectly healthy late-term babies who are absolutely babies with thoughts and pain capability would be HORRIBLE if they happened, but it's a conservative conspiracy theory."

But that's not true!
It IS true that these abortions are an EXTREMELY small share of overall abortions!

But the scale of abortions is so absolutely MASSIVE compared to child mortality that even a teeny tiny sliver of abortions would represent a huge share of child deaths.
Assuming we are agreed that "children at 32+ weeks post-conception without any lethal congenital problems" really are equally persons as "children at 45 weeks post-conception without any lethal congenital problems," the scale of killing of the first group IS INSANELY HIGH.
You may wonder if 50% viability rates for late-term abortions is correct.

Well, there are multiple articles with quotes from abortion doctors who do these procedures saying their patients are about 50-50 severe abnormality vs. discretionary reasons. I take them at their word.
But folks, even if only 20% of late-term abortions are discretionary: it would still be one of the single biggest causes of death for children! Especially when you realize the current #1 is congenital defects so should be dropped out of the baseline of "survivable cases"
What I'm getting at here folks is that it barely matters at all what numbers you choose.

At any even vaguely plausible numbers, late-term abortions of otherwise viable pregnancies are in fact an extremely large killer of children compared to other causes of child death.
You can debate if late-term abortion of viable pregnancies is the #2 killer of American children or #11 or #25 or whatever, but folks we're talking about a top-25 killer from a list that includes 828 causes of child death with at least 10 kids killed in 2023.
In any sane world, we would recognize that late-term abortions are about as likely to kill kids as guns or SIDS or car accidents. And most people think 1 or 2 or 3 of those are worth intervening on to protect child lives, whether through gun control, "back is best," carseats

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Oct 15
New Study:

Across almost 14,000 2nd-trimester abortions in Quebec over 30 years... fully 1500 of those abortions failed to kill the infant, and the child was born.

ONE IN TEN LATE ABORTED BABIES SURVIVED.

"children born alive after abortion are extremely rare" is a lie. Image
This isn't actually an extremely unusual finding, it's just in a way bigger/better sample: Image
more and more Quebecois children are surviving efforts to abort them!! Image
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Sep 16
I do think it's worth noting that about 80% of selection on intelligence occurred exactly between 10,000 BC and 6500 BC, with with much less occurring since, and virtually none since 2500 BC.Image
The fact that Steppe ancestry Europeans actually had lower than Neolithic farmer Europeans is pretty striking, and the fact that PGS scores for income and schooling have been under ~66% less intense selection is also pretty striking!
I had the years off, but here's how those 3 look in comparison.

Takeaway is: pre-Neolithic hunter gatherers in Europe were maybe 15 IQ point equivalents below the Neolithic farmers who replaced them.

There was another big selection on intelligence after 2000 BC. Image
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Sep 13
Mutations at the MTHFR gene are a huge cause of miscarriage.

We can reduce miscarriage due to the most common MTHFR mutation (C677) by ~60% using a decades-old medication.

Doctors don't prescribe it until after recurrent miscarriage.

Even though we can TEST FOR MTHFR.
MTHFR is an abbreviation for methofolate or something sciency like that.

But since it's a gene responsible for a huge amount of killed babies and wrecked pregnancies and sad moms, I think of it as standing for, uh, something else.
Here's the study showing how enoxaparin (Lovenox) reduced miscarriages in a randomized controlled trial of about 350 women by 60%:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
Read 16 tweets
Aug 28
People commonly think that poor people have big families, and rich people have small ones.

They're wrong: most of the supposed high fertility of low-income people is just because of omitted variable bias, and the omitted variable is culture.

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To understand what my point is, imagine two people. One of them wants 6 kids, the other wants 0 kids. Both currently have 0 kids.

Imagine they both win the lottery and become millionaires.

What will happen to their fertility rates?
The answer is pretty obvious: while maybe the 0-kid-wanter for some reason changes his mind to some degree, any sane person would expect that, given a huge income boost, fertility will rise much more for the person who wants 6 kids.
Read 8 tweets
Aug 27
Continuing a recent theme: some people believe high-fertility groups will eventually create a genetic preponderance in society. This is unlikely, let's explore a basic model of why, using realistic dynamics for genetic heredity of fertility.
Here's what we know:

1) In recent cohorts, parent fertility DOES predict child fertility somewhat, and closer-related people do have correlated fertility, suggesting there IS heredity

2) In recent cohorts, 90%+ of heredity is environment-specific
That 2nd point is important. We know that the traits that are being selected for through heredity are not the same in e.g. Sweden and Australia, or the Netherlands and the UK, or Estonia and the US. We know different genes are predicting intergenerational correlations.
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Aug 22
Yesterday I tweeted that heritability of fertility would never lead to sustained fertility increase.

My view is correct, all the people assuming a breeder's hypothesis for fertility are wrong: fertility decline further in the past does not cause high fertility.

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Let's talk about what would need to be true for a given community of people to pass on elevated fertility rates on a time horizon long enough to demographically swamp modern populations. The math here is not terrible complex.
Imagine a society where the Normal Person (NP) fertility is 1 child each. But there's a small subset of the population (0.1%) who have 5 children each. We'll call them the Hasmormish.
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