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Lutheran Husband Dad Kentuckian Demographer I tweet from the hip. @DemographicNTEL, @FamStudies Pronatalism Initiative lymanrstone at gmail dot com
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Nov 1 7 tweets 2 min read
It's clear that @propublica 's strategy is to spam stories of alleged deaths due to abortion bans, and never actually engage with any of the arguments about how they're actually running a cover operation for medical negligence. From the latest one.

They want to blame Texas' abortion ban for a hospital sending away an actively miscarrying women WHO ALREADY TESTED POSITIVE FOR SEPSIS. Image
Nov 1 4 tweets 3 min read
Finland's fertility is falling fast.

But why? What's the source of this decline?

To begin with, some basic facts: Finland's total fertility rate was around 1.87 children/woman as recently as 2010. It did NOT decline during the "great recession" after 2007, but actually ROSE.

Since 2019, Finland's fertility has bounced around a lot, but the decline 2019-2024 was just 0.08 children per woman, vs. the decline from 2014-2019 of 0.36. So clearly the pace of decline has slowed, even if not stopped entirely.

But you may wonder: what drove Finland's decline? Did big families get rarer, or did people stop having families at all, or what was it?

Here's parity-specific birth rate indicators:
You can see they all decline after 2010. Here's each indicator, its 2022 value expressed as a ratio of its 2010 value:

You can see that 3rd births rates fell the most, down almost 30%, then 1st birth rates, down about 27%, then 5th, then 4th, then 2nd, down about 15%.

But they're all down. Finnish women became less likely to have an extra birth at every single parity.

What does this look like in terms of total birth count?

Well, it looks like appreciable declines for every birth order. And indeed, births fell 25-33% at every parity.

So did Finland's fertility decline because of a broad-based shift away from kids across all families? Perhaps!

But now let's ask this another way:

Comparing 2010 to 2022 births, what share of the decline in births was 1st vs. 2nd vs. 3rd, etc?

37% of the decline is due to lost first births, 36% second births, 17% third births, 5% fouthr, and 5% 5th+.

So more than a third of the total decline was due to a drop in first births, and more than half was due to a drop in first or second births. Low-parity births accounted for the lion's share of decline.Image
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I think some open questions in the Finnish case are:
1) Why was Finland so resilient to the Great Recession?
2) Why the drop then at 2010?
3) Why was the drop so broadly shared across parities?
Oct 31 50 tweets 10 min read
It's possible to be more wrong than this.

But you'd have to really work at it! Let's do some math!

We'll use a case of a country we have a long history of high quality data for: Czechia.

Czechia is also interesting because they've had one of the biggest fertility INCREASES in the industrialized world in recent decades.
Oct 25 15 tweets 4 min read
UN, IHME, VID, all produce population forecasts- and they always seem too optimistic. Human population will start declining much earlier than the UN expects.

This has been obvious for a long time. @jburnmurdoch is right to highlight it--

But why does the error persist?
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You can actually see a defense of the UN's method here:


TL;DR-- the UN's method really is the best-performing forecast method in historic data compared vs. other structural forecasting methods.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pn…
Oct 24 4 tweets 1 min read
Just finished talking on a panel for a nice @BrookingsInst event about REMOTE WORK AND FERTILITY.

Here's a finding I haven't published anywhere on remote work and fertility across 8.6 MILLION employed women in the ACS. Remote-working women have WAY higher birth rates!!! Image Link to the @BrookingsInst panel is here: brookings.edu/events/could-a…
Oct 23 6 tweets 2 min read
oh hey the Clark-style malthusian model of the medieval english economy may be totally wrong Image Source: sciencedirect.com/science/articl…
Oct 15 12 tweets 4 min read
New Study:

Across almost 14,000 2nd-trimester abortions in Quebec over 30 years... fully 1500 of those abortions failed to kill the infant, and the child was born.

ONE IN TEN LATE ABORTED BABIES SURVIVED.

"children born alive after abortion are extremely rare" is a lie. Image This isn't actually an extremely unusual finding, it's just in a way bigger/better sample: Image
Sep 16 14 tweets 3 min read
I do think it's worth noting that about 80% of selection on intelligence occurred exactly between 10,000 BC and 6500 BC, with with much less occurring since, and virtually none since 2500 BC.Image The fact that Steppe ancestry Europeans actually had lower than Neolithic farmer Europeans is pretty striking, and the fact that PGS scores for income and schooling have been under ~66% less intense selection is also pretty striking!
Sep 13 16 tweets 3 min read
Mutations at the MTHFR gene are a huge cause of miscarriage.

We can reduce miscarriage due to the most common MTHFR mutation (C677) by ~60% using a decades-old medication.

Doctors don't prescribe it until after recurrent miscarriage.

Even though we can TEST FOR MTHFR. MTHFR is an abbreviation for methofolate or something sciency like that.

But since it's a gene responsible for a huge amount of killed babies and wrecked pregnancies and sad moms, I think of it as standing for, uh, something else.
Sep 11 11 tweets 3 min read
Abortions after 32 weeks are a very small share of total abortions-- perhaps 0.5%. Let's say half of those are not due to unsurvivable conditions, so 0.25% of abortions are very late + could have survived if born.

Given ~1 million abortions, that's 2500 such abortions.

There were about 23,000 homicides in the US in 2023.

If that teeny tiny share of abortions covering very late abortions of totally viable kids without lethal health issues were counted, those extremely rare abortions would compose fully 1-in-10 homicides in the United States. In 2023, there were only 11,000 deaths of all external causes (accidents, homicides, etc) of people under age 18.

Abortions of health viable children make up 18% of all non-natural-causes deaths of children.
Aug 28 8 tweets 2 min read
People commonly think that poor people have big families, and rich people have small ones.

They're wrong: most of the supposed high fertility of low-income people is just because of omitted variable bias, and the omitted variable is culture.

🧵🧵🧵 Image To understand what my point is, imagine two people. One of them wants 6 kids, the other wants 0 kids. Both currently have 0 kids.

Imagine they both win the lottery and become millionaires.

What will happen to their fertility rates?
Aug 27 23 tweets 5 min read
Continuing a recent theme: some people believe high-fertility groups will eventually create a genetic preponderance in society. This is unlikely, let's explore a basic model of why, using realistic dynamics for genetic heredity of fertility. Here's what we know:

1) In recent cohorts, parent fertility DOES predict child fertility somewhat, and closer-related people do have correlated fertility, suggesting there IS heredity

2) In recent cohorts, 90%+ of heredity is environment-specific
Aug 22 37 tweets 8 min read
Yesterday I tweeted that heritability of fertility would never lead to sustained fertility increase.

My view is correct, all the people assuming a breeder's hypothesis for fertility are wrong: fertility decline further in the past does not cause high fertility.

🧵🧵🧵 Let's talk about what would need to be true for a given community of people to pass on elevated fertility rates on a time horizon long enough to demographically swamp modern populations. The math here is not terrible complex.
Aug 20 24 tweets 5 min read
It's amazing the places journalists are credulous and where they are skeptical.

Skeptical: @FT journalists very doubtful Hungary's policies could have worked

Credulous: @FT believing Hungary's claims about what they're spending
ft.com/content/3ea257… OECD's 2019 figures (last for Hungary, alas) say Hungary was spending 2.4% of GDP on family supports. Maybe it's doubled 2019-2024, but most of the programs described were already in full swing in 2019.
Aug 15 25 tweets 6 min read
What do you call a man who shares in the load of tasks at home, supports his wife's career and other aspirations, and also tries to hold down a stable job to provide for his family?

According to @zackbeauchamp , a "neopatriarch." vox.com/politics/36660… Goofy label that sounds like the name of an obscure gundamsuit from that one series where it's just a giant robot battle tournament aside, @zackbeauchamp 's article is a weird attempt to recast a well-trodden scholarly concept ("flexible egalitarianism") as sexist.
Aug 9 18 tweets 5 min read
Conservative men are more complimentary of their wives' housework than liberal men are, and conservative women are less critical of their husbands' housework than liberal women are.

Conservatives share housework better. Image Flipside here shows less difference Image
Aug 5 4 tweets 1 min read
Body blows keep coming for UBI fans. $1k/month transfers had no effect on net worth or credit access. All the money was ploughed straight into consumption, recipients actually went more into debt.
nber.org/papers/w32784 For reference: most spending categories rose by similar percents: UBI recipients did NOT necessarily prioritize immediate needs. In fact, they disproportionately gave their UBI away. Image
Aug 5 26 tweets 5 min read
Recently I read an article about the "loneliness of parenting." It struck me as really weird: parenting is a lot of things, but lonely? Parenting has me surrounded by people. It may be exhausting, busy, or many things... but lonely?

I thought it was a case of doomerism.
🧵🧵🧵 For Ruth and me, parenting isn't lonely. It draws us into lots of activities together, it connects us to other people we would never otherwise have met, it fills our life with children (ours and other peoples'), and empirically parents really do report less loneliness.🧵
Jul 30 7 tweets 2 min read
i guess my take on the ballerina farm thing is that conservatives will absolutely never come out looking good when they let hostile reporters wanderer around their house for a few hours and judge their family, because the reporters are liberals who hate them.
thetimes.com/magazines/the-… i have no idea what the marriage dynamic is between the Neelemans and i really, really dislike the whole "branded tradwife" aesthetic and i object to the whole "ah, we just do humble homesteading" by people who are in fact wildly rich
Jul 30 7 tweets 2 min read
I have not independently confirmed the data here. But a quick scan of it vs. some partial public sources suggests this is about right.

There are nearly as many illegal immigrants arriving each month as there are babies born in the entire country.

It has to stop. I have always been very pro-immigrant. I hate how absurd our system is for immigrants, and they are a vital part of our society. Living abroad, it's nuts how hard we make it for people I KNOW would make wonderful Americans even visit here, let alone live here.
Jul 29 20 tweets 6 min read
Right, it's a pun on the Feast of Dionysus, which is why the dancers are on both sides of the table like in the Feast of Dionysus painting, instead of on one side of the table, like the Last Supper painting.

you absolute nincompoops who believe this cope Thesis: It's the Last Supper and intentional blasphemy

Antithesis: It's the Feast of Dionysus and not about Christianity at all

Synthesis: It's a mockery of the Last Supper by intentionally swapping in Dionysian imagery into the obvious Last Supper scene