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1) Russia's IFV/APC losses normally run at about 2 for every 1 tank that Russia loses. However, that has changed over the last five months, and it's now almost 4 to 1. I don't know why this is, but here are some observations and thoughts. 🧵 Image
2) First I should say the above graph uses the midpoint of each 3-month period, i.e. Feb is, Jan, Feb, & Mar, Mar is Feb, Mar and Apr. The exception is in Oct 2024, which is just the first 16 days of October, so not a big sample, but as it's flowing the trend I've added it.
3) The data is from Visually Confirmed losses on the @WarSpotting website. Plotting all the Russian losses on one graph, and not using a 3-month average, gives this. Showing a decline in tanks (yellow) from about Feb, but it does jump about a bit. Image
@WarSpotting 1) I don't know the reason, but some possibilities that come to mind:

a) Just random variation.
b) Different location/ground conditions/time of year.
c) Change in Ukrinin tactics/prioritisation.
d) Change in Russian Tactics usage.
e) shortage of Russian tanks.
5) It's been going on for 5 months so I don't think it's random but can not rule that out.
We did not observe this last year or the year before so I don't think it's a seasonal/ground conditions thing.
It might be due to the location of the fighting, but apart from Kirsk, The front lines have not moved that much, and only a modest proportion of the losses are coming from Kirsk.
Ukraine is now using more FPV drones so maybe that's it? but they do seem able to take out tanks almost as easily as IFVs so I don't know, have there been any other significant changes in Ukrian tactics?
Perhaps Russia is now choosing to do things differently, I have not heard/seen much that has changed, but I'm nowhere near the fitting and there is only so much you can asses from a distance.
So, could Russia be running low on tanks?
@WarSpotting 6) There has been speculation that Russia would run out of tanks since the beginning, and it's been wrong, so don't get excited by such reports. We can, however, use the same @WarSpotting data and plot other types of graphs to look for trends. Image
7) One observation from the graph above is that very few of the Russian lost tanks are new build types, (T-90M or T90S) most of the tanks they use have come from storage, with or without modernisation.
Another graph below, of all Russian types, showed that while for the first 2 years of the war, types rose and fell as a proportion of total tanks, but, for the last 5 months the numbers have been overall reasonably steady. Now don't read too much into this, but it could indicate that the proportions of each type of tank arriving at the front line correspond to the proportions already at the front line. Or, that not many new tanks are getting to the front line.Image
8) In contrast to the tanks, if we look at IFV/APCs we see that almost a 1/3 of Russian losses are of types still in production (blue) and the proportion is still rising slowly. Russia presumably has a healthy supply of newly built IFV/APCs, and for the moment is still able to back that up with stuff from storage.Image
9) If we look at Russia's IFV and APC losses in more detail we still see different types gradually becoming more or less common. Presumably, this is an indication that there is more or less of one time at the front line, but not definitely. Image
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10) Sadly, this is not nessassraly as good for Ukrain as it might sound at first, This war, I think, has shown that tanks are more vulnerable than assumed, and on a cost-benefit basis, IFVs and APCs are probably more useful places to put resources to build or restore. Indeed Russia may have come to the same conclusion and therefore be prioritieing IFV/APCs.

I hope I have put both sufficient caveats and reasoning in this. I don't know what is happening, but hope that some think this might be informative, to people who are trying to understand whats happening.

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Oct 18
1) There has been a notable increase of Russian T-54/55 destroyed recently as a share of total Russian Tank losses as recorded by @WarSpotting while still modist, only 4 tanks, it's still a noteworthy increase, a short 🧵 Image
2) There have been 88 total Russian tank losses over 3 months, but of these a quarter 22 have been of Unknown Type. Therefor, of the 66 lost tanks of Known types, the 4 T-54/55s represent 6% A small share, but not negligible, as they have been up to now. Image
3) All 4 of the losses have been Geo located, 2 of them are in Donetsk Oblast, one in Zaporizhzhia Oblast, and I think the most recent 'Sudxha raion' is in Russia, if i'm not mistaken. It's possible that its one Russian unit that's been moved about, But I don't think so. Image
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Oct 14
1) More Russian IFV/APC losses added in the last 24 hours (16) to @WarSpotting than happened all of September combined. (14) Image
2) I don't have any inside knowledge of Russian tactics, and 'loss analysis' always has limitations, so recognising those limitations, I'm not going to say why this is. But those that are suggesting that Russia might have stopped supporting small assaults with IFVs and instead are now doing small numbers of larger assaults, might be right.
3) One interesting thing is that of the 25 IFV/APC losses over half 13 are MT-LBs, mostly used as a rather simple APC.

Use of MT-LBs are a proportion of total losses has been increasing, Over 40% in sep (midpoint of 3 month average) again I don't know why, but interesting. Image
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Oct 4
1) A 🧵on Russian tank losses. In September russian losses returned to a more normal distribution, T-80s and T-72 each make up about 1/3 of losses, most of the rest are T-62s, and T-90s stay in the 5-10% range. Image
2) T-90 losses are now exclusively T-90Ms, only 2 T-90As have been lost this year, the last in April. This reinforces my long held assumption that Russia has been upgrading there T-90As to T-90Ms, And probably means they are now few if any T-90As left, new T-90M production is probably back to 60-80 a year.Image
3) T-80 losses have not shown any big recent change, but Unmodernised T-80BV (Dark Blue) continue to become less common, and ether T-80BVM Orb 2022 or Orb 2022s of unknown (BV or BVM) modle, (yellow and light blue) together now make up over half the total. Image
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Sep 26
1) Russian tank loss update, while most of our attention is on the stunning Ukraine offensive against Russia Oil refining; Russia continues to lose tank. Russia is still losing a lot of very old T-62 Tanks, but the proportion is down over the last 2 months. Image
2) this striking chart is perhaps the big news from this months Russi losses, it shows the ratio of Tanks to IFVs, we have gone form 2-3 IFV/APCs for each tank lost to less than half an IFV/APC to each tank lost. Image
3) That's because the number of IFV/APC losses, (yellow) has dropped dramatically. Transport losses however are up, and most others are about normal for this point in the month. Image
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Sep 21
1) Dramatic change in the make up of Russia losses this month. A big drop in the proportion (and absotte numbers) of IFV/APC losses (Light Blue) and rise in the proportion of Truck losses (light yellow near top) also some increase in tank proportion (dark yellow at bottom) Image
2) Here in table format, only 6 IFV/APCs (yellow) but 37 transport (orange).

I dont know whats driving this change, but I think it's too large to be random. my first thought/theory is that it might be related to the 'point' system that Ukrainian Drone forces operate under. Image
3) Here is a graph format, comparing tank to IFV/APC visually confirmed losses you can see the full and dramatic change. This graph is 'mid point of 3 month average' except September 25.

Normally there are 2-3 IFV/APCs for every tank lost, now it's the other way around. Image
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Aug 10
1) The big story in Russian Tank losses, Is the decline in absolute numbers, (more on that in a bit) but there is also a significant change in the types lost. (Data from @WarSpotting ) with most of the decline happening in T-80s. 🧵 Image
2) This graph is the same data as the first graph, but without the '3 month averaging'. T-62s and T-90s look like significant increase but their numbers are stedy, T-72s have declined proportionately to the overall reduction so there share is about the same. Image
3) The decline has been ongoing for a long time, but June and July were paticly low. Image
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