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1) Russia's IFV/APC losses normally run at about 2 for every 1 tank that Russia loses. However, that has changed over the last five months, and it's now almost 4 to 1. I don't know why this is, but here are some observations and thoughts. 🧵 Image
2) First I should say the above graph uses the midpoint of each 3-month period, i.e. Feb is, Jan, Feb, & Mar, Mar is Feb, Mar and Apr. The exception is in Oct 2024, which is just the first 16 days of October, so not a big sample, but as it's flowing the trend I've added it.
3) The data is from Visually Confirmed losses on the @WarSpotting website. Plotting all the Russian losses on one graph, and not using a 3-month average, gives this. Showing a decline in tanks (yellow) from about Feb, but it does jump about a bit. Image
@WarSpotting 1) I don't know the reason, but some possibilities that come to mind:

a) Just random variation.
b) Different location/ground conditions/time of year.
c) Change in Ukrinin tactics/prioritisation.
d) Change in Russian Tactics usage.
e) shortage of Russian tanks.
5) It's been going on for 5 months so I don't think it's random but can not rule that out.
We did not observe this last year or the year before so I don't think it's a seasonal/ground conditions thing.
It might be due to the location of the fighting, but apart from Kirsk, The front lines have not moved that much, and only a modest proportion of the losses are coming from Kirsk.
Ukraine is now using more FPV drones so maybe that's it? but they do seem able to take out tanks almost as easily as IFVs so I don't know, have there been any other significant changes in Ukrian tactics?
Perhaps Russia is now choosing to do things differently, I have not heard/seen much that has changed, but I'm nowhere near the fitting and there is only so much you can asses from a distance.
So, could Russia be running low on tanks?
@WarSpotting 6) There has been speculation that Russia would run out of tanks since the beginning, and it's been wrong, so don't get excited by such reports. We can, however, use the same @WarSpotting data and plot other types of graphs to look for trends. Image
7) One observation from the graph above is that very few of the Russian lost tanks are new build types, (T-90M or T90S) most of the tanks they use have come from storage, with or without modernisation.
Another graph below, of all Russian types, showed that while for the first 2 years of the war, types rose and fell as a proportion of total tanks, but, for the last 5 months the numbers have been overall reasonably steady. Now don't read too much into this, but it could indicate that the proportions of each type of tank arriving at the front line correspond to the proportions already at the front line. Or, that not many new tanks are getting to the front line.Image
8) In contrast to the tanks, if we look at IFV/APCs we see that almost a 1/3 of Russian losses are of types still in production (blue) and the proportion is still rising slowly. Russia presumably has a healthy supply of newly built IFV/APCs, and for the moment is still able to back that up with stuff from storage.Image
9) If we look at Russia's IFV and APC losses in more detail we still see different types gradually becoming more or less common. Presumably, this is an indication that there is more or less of one time at the front line, but not definitely. Image
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10) Sadly, this is not nessassraly as good for Ukrain as it might sound at first, This war, I think, has shown that tanks are more vulnerable than assumed, and on a cost-benefit basis, IFVs and APCs are probably more useful places to put resources to build or restore. Indeed Russia may have come to the same conclusion and therefore be prioritieing IFV/APCs.

I hope I have put both sufficient caveats and reasoning in this. I don't know what is happening, but hope that some think this might be informative, to people who are trying to understand whats happening.

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Aug 10
1) The big story in Russian Tank losses, Is the decline in absolute numbers, (more on that in a bit) but there is also a significant change in the types lost. (Data from @WarSpotting ) with most of the decline happening in T-80s. 🧵 Image
2) This graph is the same data as the first graph, but without the '3 month averaging'. T-62s and T-90s look like significant increase but their numbers are stedy, T-72s have declined proportionately to the overall reduction so there share is about the same. Image
3) The decline has been ongoing for a long time, but June and July were paticly low. Image
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Jul 26
1) Over half of the Visually confirmed and identified (by @WarSpotting ) Russia tank losses this month are T-62s!

That is to say of the 12 Russian tank losses in July, 9 can be identified by type, 2 T-90s, T-72s and 5 T-62s.

There are caveats: 🧵 Image
2)
a) With only 12 tank losses this is not a statistically significant sample.
b) Even if continued continued for many months, it does not necessarily mean that the majority of russian tanks are T-62s, it may be that older tanks are more vulnerable so lost more.
3) With the caveats out the way, this is what that looks like on a graph, T-62 losses (orange) are spiking, T-90s (green) also a record proportion of the total, T-72s down(yellow) and no T-80s (blue) so far this month. Image
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Jun 7
1) With so much news coming from the war, this almost feels redundant, but here is my update🧵on Russia Tank losses, again T-80s losses out numbered T-72s, but not by as much as the last few months, T-90 losses are stedy, but T-62 Losses are down. Image
2) The first graph does not include 'Unknown Tank' which have been increasing and were over 25% in May (Black in this graph) this adds an extra layer of uncertainty on this, but I will persevere anyway. Image
3) T-90 losses, Q2 has so far only been T-90Ms. I don't know how many T-90As are left, but I suspect its very few now, the rest having been destroyed or upgraded to T-90M, but possibly some that have been forgotten. Image
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Apr 12
1) The very old Russian BRM-1(K) are still rare, but becoming more common amongst Russian Losses.

So what does this mean? 🧵 Image
2) They are still less than 2% of all Russian IFV/APC losses, but they are now over 20% of BMP-1 Based vehicles losses.

Note: I have left of the first couple of months of the war, as these months had a lot of LNR/DNR losses and were untypical. Image
3) So what is the BRD-1(K)? it is a soviet design reconsases vheale, based on the BMP-1. Built between 1973 and 1988, it had extra surveillance and communication equipment compared to the BMP-1 but less ammunition for its main gun, and didn't carry infantry.
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Apr 8
1) Russian IFV/APC types that are still IN PRODUCTION are becoming rarer. After a peek in November 2024, they have dropped below 20% for some reason. a short 🧵 Image
2) If we look at losses for the first week of April, they are down to just 2.2% of the total IFV/APC losses. I've added this week to the graph and posted here, but posting it in the second tweet in🧵so I'm not being too sensational. Image
3) There are 3 types known to be in production, the BMP-3,BMD-4 and BTR-82, plotting these losses against each other looks like this, the BMP-3 are a shrinking proportion of a shrinking pie. Image
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Mar 8
1) Ukrainian keeps destroying Russian Tanks, so I'm going to keep on making graphs and 🧵 of destroyed Russian tanks.

Russian T-80s recorded the highest proportion ever 54%, and T-72 recorded the smallest ever 22%. Image
2) The T-80s are the most significant type, so I will start with them. T-80U losses have been minimal for two years now, but there seems to be a relatively consistent rate of change to the Orb 2022 variants. If this continues, then all the old ones will be gone around Jul/Aug. Image
3) T-90 losses remain bout 7% of the total. So fr this quarter they have all been the T-90M variant.

I think 'most', by which I mean almost all of the 'New T-90Ms', have been upgraded T-90a, not new builds, for the last two years, and now they're out of T-90a. Image
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