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1) Russia's IFV/APC losses normally run at about 2 for every 1 tank that Russia loses. However, that has changed over the last five months, and it's now almost 4 to 1. I don't know why this is, but here are some observations and thoughts. 🧵 Image
2) First I should say the above graph uses the midpoint of each 3-month period, i.e. Feb is, Jan, Feb, & Mar, Mar is Feb, Mar and Apr. The exception is in Oct 2024, which is just the first 16 days of October, so not a big sample, but as it's flowing the trend I've added it.
3) The data is from Visually Confirmed losses on the @WarSpotting website. Plotting all the Russian losses on one graph, and not using a 3-month average, gives this. Showing a decline in tanks (yellow) from about Feb, but it does jump about a bit. Image
@WarSpotting 1) I don't know the reason, but some possibilities that come to mind:

a) Just random variation.
b) Different location/ground conditions/time of year.
c) Change in Ukrinin tactics/prioritisation.
d) Change in Russian Tactics usage.
e) shortage of Russian tanks.
5) It's been going on for 5 months so I don't think it's random but can not rule that out.
We did not observe this last year or the year before so I don't think it's a seasonal/ground conditions thing.
It might be due to the location of the fighting, but apart from Kirsk, The front lines have not moved that much, and only a modest proportion of the losses are coming from Kirsk.
Ukraine is now using more FPV drones so maybe that's it? but they do seem able to take out tanks almost as easily as IFVs so I don't know, have there been any other significant changes in Ukrian tactics?
Perhaps Russia is now choosing to do things differently, I have not heard/seen much that has changed, but I'm nowhere near the fitting and there is only so much you can asses from a distance.
So, could Russia be running low on tanks?
@WarSpotting 6) There has been speculation that Russia would run out of tanks since the beginning, and it's been wrong, so don't get excited by such reports. We can, however, use the same @WarSpotting data and plot other types of graphs to look for trends. Image
7) One observation from the graph above is that very few of the Russian lost tanks are new build types, (T-90M or T90S) most of the tanks they use have come from storage, with or without modernisation.
Another graph below, of all Russian types, showed that while for the first 2 years of the war, types rose and fell as a proportion of total tanks, but, for the last 5 months the numbers have been overall reasonably steady. Now don't read too much into this, but it could indicate that the proportions of each type of tank arriving at the front line correspond to the proportions already at the front line. Or, that not many new tanks are getting to the front line.Image
8) In contrast to the tanks, if we look at IFV/APCs we see that almost a 1/3 of Russian losses are of types still in production (blue) and the proportion is still rising slowly. Russia presumably has a healthy supply of newly built IFV/APCs, and for the moment is still able to back that up with stuff from storage.Image
9) If we look at Russia's IFV and APC losses in more detail we still see different types gradually becoming more or less common. Presumably, this is an indication that there is more or less of one time at the front line, but not definitely. Image
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10) Sadly, this is not nessassraly as good for Ukrain as it might sound at first, This war, I think, has shown that tanks are more vulnerable than assumed, and on a cost-benefit basis, IFVs and APCs are probably more useful places to put resources to build or restore. Indeed Russia may have come to the same conclusion and therefore be prioritieing IFV/APCs.

I hope I have put both sufficient caveats and reasoning in this. I don't know what is happening, but hope that some think this might be informative, to people who are trying to understand whats happening.

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Oct 12
1) The Military Think tank RUSI, recently released a Report on Russian Armes production, overall it's good and worth a read. However, I think it's possible to be a bit more precise/accurate and reveal something RUSI does not mention. 🧵 static.rusi.org/methodology-de…
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1) Russia is visually confirmed to have lost 6,065 IFV and APCs (by @WarSpotting ) I have created (re-created) this graph of their losses, by type, each month as a % of the total. It's a bit confusing so here is a thread, braking it down a bit, to make more sense. Image
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Sep 29
1) Russia has lost at least 918 T-80s, which have been visually confirmed by @WarSpotting and probably more. Here is a thread, with graphs, looking at how the different types of T-80 losses have changed over time, probably in more detail than any reasonable person would want. Image
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Aug 14
1) Russia's old BMP-1s are disappearing, at least from the visually confirmed Losses recorded by @Warspotting. From over 40% of total BMPs to less than 18% Image
@WarSpotting 2) If we add the losses of this month 'to date' to that graph the decline looks even more dramatic. but that is putting 14-day losses on a graph that is otherwise a 3-month average so it's not really valid, just a possible indication of direction. Image
@WarSpotting 3) this is significant because the BMP family of IFVs make up about 55-60% of all Russia's IFV/APC losses. Image
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Aug 4
1) Russia Artillery losses as recorded by @AndrewPerpetua show a dramatic change over the last 10 months. Towed Artillery, goes from under 1/3 or almost 3/4 of the total in that time. Image
2) This is the equivalent graph that I made from Warspotting data. I am not saying one set of data is better than the other, they are just different, Andrews is a much larger data set, and amongst other things includes damaged. Image
3) APs data has 1177 data points, that went into this graph, WS has 356 over the same time. AP includes some Anti-aircraft guns in his artillery, whereas WS puts these in the same lase as AA missile systems. but those numbers are small so would not change the overall situation.
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1) Russia has now lost a total of 51 Tanks that can very badly be defined as 'Turtal Tanks' and they use a range of tank types to make them. 'Turtal tank' is a nickname that I am using, but there is not a universally recognised description. A Thread: Image
2) I am using @WarSpotting data, which doesn't have a category for 'Turtal tank' but by selecting Tank and then choosing 'show only' Cope Cage' and 'Improvided', you get this list. But there is a blurry line between a big improvised cope cage and a full Turtal Tank, so this could be overcounting, by many definitions.

ukr.warspotting.net/search/?bellig…
@WarSpotting 3) The one T-90 is a good example of where calling it a Turtal tank is a bit of an exaggeration. however short of going through them all and making subjective decisions, I am tanking all 51 that come up and seeing what the numbers look like. ukr.warspotting.net/view/27600/161…
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