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Nov 26, 2024 28 tweets 12 min read Read on X
I’m headed to Huawei’s Mate 70 launch event in Shenzhen (yes, Shenzhen Metro has business class). This phone/chip/OS/event is a really big deal for Chinese tech, and has big implications for US-China relations. Here’s some background. Image
In May 2019, the US Dept. of Commerce added Huawei and its affiliates to the Entity List, which restricted US companies (and allies) from exporting tech to Huawei. They expected this to cripple Huawei, because it wouldn't be able to acquire any semiconductors made with US tech.
The US govt assumed that by restricting Huawei’s access to cutting-edge semiconductor manufacturing equipment, particularly Extreme Ultraviolet (EUV) lithography machines from ASML, the company would be unable to produce cutting-edge chips at process nodes smaller than 10 nm. EUV lithography is crucial for efficiently manufacturing chips at 7 nm and below, utilizing light with a wavelength of 13.5 nm, which enables finer feature resolution with fewer patterning steps.
Without access to EUV technology, Huawei was expected to rely on older Deep Ultraviolet (DUV) lithography machines, which use light at a wavelength of 193 nm. DUV lithography can be extended to produce smaller process nodes through sophisticated techniques like immersion lithography and multiple patterning; however, these methods significantly increase manufacturing complexity, cost, and production time.
Then on the morning of August 30, 2023, Huawei quietly dropped a new flagship phone, the Mate 60 Pro. No product release event, no specs, nothing.

At first, no one even knew if the phone had 5G because of all the US sanctions that cut Huawei off from advanced tech. A friend that morning showed up in the lobby of my office with the new phone. "We call it 4.99G,” he said with a wink. We speed tested it against the 5G phones in our office and it beat all of them. Huawei wasn’t supposed to have a 5G chip.Image
The timing of the drop was significant: US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo was in China that morning.

The tech world waited a few days for the first tear downs to see what was inside: a 7 nm Kirin 9000S, made domestically by SMIC. It caught everyone off guard, especially the US, because they thought Huawei couldn’t even get close to this without EUV tech.
It turned out Huawei had secretly been pouring tons of R&D for years into designing domestic chips.

The chip’s performance showed that Huawei and SMIC had overcome the technical limitations previously thought insurmountable with older DUV tech.

The only remaining thread tying Huawei’s phone to Western technology was that it ran on Android. That changes today.
Welcome back, Mate. 轻舟已过万重山 Image
@Huawei @committeeonccp Here it is, Richard Yu presents the Huawei Mate 70 Pro+ Image
@Huawei @committeeonccp @HuaweiMobile Richard Yu is just openly calling out Lei Jun and Apple. The crowd is loving it. Image
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By the way, we are in a stadium. They upgraded to a larger venue “last minute”. No international media here, Huawei executives and their families are all around me, suppliers and distributors on the floor, and I think KOLs in the back. My colleague @bridgemccarthy_ and I are the only foreigners here.Image
@Huawei @committeeonccp @HuaweiMobile @bridgemccarthy_ Lots of really innovative features, including by far the most advanced gesture controls, thanks to the powerful cameras and sensors under the screen. The screen is the most advanced on a phone, which is why they had to move the fingerprint sensor to the side.
@Huawei @committeeonccp @HuaweiMobile @bridgemccarthy_ Huawei is just running away with this, releasing things no other tech company could in a single event.
- $3,300 USD smart watch with real gold
- $2,000 foldable phones
- $700 tablet
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Entire section on Huawei Sound, Smart Home… how does one company make all of this, let alone unveil so many new products so often? They just had an event two months ago! Image
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Smart home voice assistant. Like @googlenest, but you can talk to it, and it controls your entire home.

I really like this AI-Assisted Health Monitoring Device. Screw it into the ceiling or wall and it detects falls, bed presence, and sleep status. Great for monitoring children and the elderly. I’ve never seen this before.
@googlenest Now time for the cars. I’ve never seen cars enter a stage so fast.
Direct shots fired at Tesla many times over. No one can directly call out so many companies across different industries like Huawei, except Xiaomi. But this is all one event!Image
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@googlenest @leijun @Huawei This is what I mean when I say it’s increasingly difficult for foreign automakers to keep up with Chinese consumer preferences.
@googlenest @leijun @Huawei This was last year’s Luxeed S7 on Huawei ADS 2.0, and even that was 10x Tesla Full Self-Driving, which isn’t even available in China, where traffic conditions are way more challenging.

Now, ADS 3.0 is here. I’ll record some drives on it later.
@googlenest @leijun @Huawei There’s a new sheriff in town Image
@googlenest @leijun @Huawei Maextro S800, RMB 1-1.5million. 5.5 meters long. Not many details today, but will have Level 3 intelligent driving and you can preorder today.
The screen just opened and behind it is an entire exhibition of what Huawei released today. Cool! Image
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It feels like magic to grab and drop to another phone, and is possible because of advanced ToF cameras/sensors under the screen. I started grabbing screenshots from random people’s demo phones over their shoulders and dropping them onto people’s phones 10 feet away. I could see this being an issue on airplanes, like AirDrop haha
The cars look great, too. This is why everyone was excited (or scared) for Apple to make a car, except Huawei actually has done it (and now Xiaomi). Image
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Huawei Maextro S800 looks incredible. It's longer than 99.999% of cars. $140k-$210k USD
Huawei stores in Shenzhen were filling up while the event was going on just to look at the new phones!
If this blows your mind, read through this thread where Huawei had another massive unveil event JUST TWO AND A HALF MONTHS AGO
To all the media reaching out to me: good that you saw this… you should cover it. I’m American, and an investor (Huawei is not publicly traded and my own government banned me from owning SMIC), so if I can see this, you have no excuse.

To those reading this and wondering why you don’t see this in your regular news cycle: ask yourself why

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Nov 20, 2024
BYD's Zhengzhou factory is already enormous, and it's getting even bigger. Here's Tesla's largest factory, for comparison. That blue line is 2 miles. Image
Here's the most recent satellite image, taken a few days ago. That new structure in the middle (汽车专用作业区) will connect the factory to the Zhengzhou International Land Port, which will be 50km², roughly the size of Manhattan. Image
The bottom right corner of the image is land being cleared for the Port's rail yard, so you can see how BYD's factory literally attaches to this massive port that will send cars to Europe, from the middle of China. BYD's factory is already way ahead of the port itself. Image
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Sep 16, 2024
Last week, there was a piece in @FT on how China's gov’t policies and regulatory crackdowns have severely impacted the private sector—particularly VC and startups—resulting in a stifled entrepreneurial spirit and a significant decline in new company formations. There was a chart from the article that looked abysmal, that went viral on its own. (see chart below)
The chart listed two sources—one misspelled—and the CEO of the other responded to one of the authors on Twitter that the data from his platform is certainly not comprehensive and was completely misrepresented in the chart. Author @EleanorOlcott's tweet was also Community Noted. Plenty of others have also debunked it, but she/FT has not responded, and the article has not been taken down.
What’s infuriating is how quickly and widely misinformation about China can spread. A few days ago, I met up with a former classmate in Shenzhen who is getting her Ph.D. in the US, and one of the first things she brought up was a chart she had just seen about how the number of new companies has fallen dramatically in recent years. I asked her if she were referring to a Financial Times chart. She was.
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Sep 10, 2024
I’m at the Huawei launch of the world’s first tri-fold phone, and new intelligent driving conference in Shenzhen. Huawei’s timing is not a coincidence; Apple’s keynote was just a few hours ago. This is symbolic.

I’m definitely the only American here…
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The color of the Mate XT Ultimate Design is completely Chinese. Looks awesome. Now @huaweirichard, who was spotted using the phone last month, is explaining the use cases for a triple screen.

Crowd loves the stock app, for some reason….


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@huaweirichard @Huawei The camera is phenomenal and there are lots of on-device AI functions.

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Jun 3, 2024
I can't believe people still talk about Tesla when this exists. Here's Huawei's ADS 2.0 in Shenzhen, filmed by me.

Luxeed S7 has LiDAR, no HD maps, 11 HD cameras, 3 mmWave radars, 12 USS, significant onboard compute...

Driver didn't touch controls once (except to reroute).
40 mins straight. This model is popular among DJI, Huawei, and Tencent engineers, who compare their commutes’ disengagements. I have never heard of anyone knowing anyone who has had a disengagement.
Also, for those asking, this car costs $45,500, goes 0-60 in 3.3s, 800v architecture. This feature costs $3,588. There are also really cool auto park features that I'll film and post another time. Oh, and this car is beautiful.


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Apr 28, 2023
ARK locks its Tesla models, but we unlocked them. I'm going to dig into @ARKInvest’s new Tesla model this weekend, but before that, let's look at what ARK thought about 2023.

[Unanswered issues with past two years’ models quote-tweeted here] @wintonARK
Remember, just last year, ARK’s bull case figured Tesla would sell 3 million cars in 2023—its bear case 2.4 million. It also thought Tesla would do $174B in automotive revenue this year (2022 model bull case), or $141B on the low-end (2022 bear case). In Q1 2023, it did $19.4B.
In 2020, @ARKInvest thought Tesla would do $315 billion in revenue in 2023. Tesla did less than 10% of that in the first quarter so far.
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Mar 27, 2023
So Bloomberg came out with a story this morning about how Jack Ma is staying away from China.

A few hours later, Jack Ma was literally visiting a school in Hangzhou, and Bloomberg had to "update" its entire article.

You can't make this stuff up.😂
The authors of the story are no longer listed (LMAO), but you can still find them in the metadata.
A video surfaced yesterday of what looked to be Jack Ma in a vehicle in China. "China watchers" were dismissing it, saying the video wasn't taken recently. People were even trying to decode an inspection sticker to prove Ma couldn't possibly be in China.
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