Short Course 1 from #iedm24 today. TSMC giving some detail about the state of the industry. Some highlights.
#1 3D Stacking is expected to go to 3 micron pitch by 2027.
#2 A16-based AI accelerators in 2027 with CoWoS-L and 12xHBM4. But even those 2025/2026 designs look cool - six compute die, 12xHBM3e. Next gen MI400 from AMD maybe?
#3 WiFi 8 to show life in 2027/2028. WiFi 8 at 10 Gbps may need as much as 30 TOPs and TSMC N4 to achieve peak perf. Could do it in N16, but big chip with lots of power.
Sucks that still so much WiFi 4 will still be being installed.
#4 Chiplet based smartphone SoCs are coming. DRAM goes on the side.
#5 The prolific use of interposers will move integrated voltage regulators to that interposer - both inductors and PMICs.
Intel kind of already does this with some generations of server CPUs - package on package designs.
#6 Big gains in the N2 era. GAAFETs rule
#7 In 2027, 50%+ of smartphones will have a >38 TOPs NPU on board - but less than 30% of notebooks.
#8 General server TAM will remain stagnant until 2027. AI Server TAM will grow 39% CAGR 22-27. Unit CAGR is 73%.
#9 Optical I/O / co-packaged optics are coming.
#10 HBM and CoWoS will come to automotive. Sounds somewhat insane, but here we are.
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$INTC margins crater for 2024 Q3.
DCAI/NEX up, rest down 🧵
vs 23Q3
💵 Revenue $13.3b, down 6% (Guide 13b)
📈 Gross Margin 15% GAAP, down 27.5pp (Guide 34.5)
💰 Net Income -$16.6b, down from $0.3b
🪙 EPS -$3.88, down from $0.07
Outlook:
💵 Revenue $13.8b, +- $500m
📈 GM 36.5%
➡️Foundry $4.35b, down 8% from $4.83b
➡️DCAI $3.35b, up 9% from $3.08b
➡️CCG $7.33b, down 7% from $7.87b
➡️NEX $1.51b, up 4% from $1.45b
➡️Altera $0.41b, down 44% from $0.74b
➡️MBLY $0.48b, down 8% from $0.53b
Employee count, as of Sep 28, is at 124.1k - down 1200 from last quarter. Not quite the 15k announced quite yet.
$AMD hits a record quarter for 2024 Q3. Their best ever. 🧵
💵 Revenue $6.819b, up 18% YoY
📈 Gross Margin 54%/50%, up 3pp YoY
💰 Op Income $724m, up from 224m
🪙 EPS $0.47, up 161%
Outlook:
💵 Revenue $7.5b, +- $300m
📈 GM 54%
Datacenter - EPYC, Instinct
➡️ Revenue $3.549b, up 122% YoY from $1.598b
➡️ Operating Income $1.041b, up from $0.306b
➡️ Operating Margin 29% , up from 19% YoY
Launched Turin, MI325X. Strong cloud pickup on MI300X, announced the acquisition of ZT Systems.
Client - Ryzen, Ryzen AI
➡️Revenue $1.881b, up 29% YoY from $1.453b
➡️Operating Income is $276m, up from $140m YoY
➡️Operating Margin is 15%, up from 10% YoY
New Ryzen AI 300 mobile devices, ramped Ryzen 9000 desktop, X3D due 7th Nov.