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1) Russia has lost at least 3,251 Tanks (visually confirmed). This month, the old T-62s make up a record-high proportion of their losses. A 🧵about those losses, with a new and, I think, revealing graph from me. Image
2) Tanking about records, Russia is losing a record-high number of IFVs for each Tank it is losing. There could be a few reasons for this, including the fact that they don't have that many working tanks anymore. But more about that latter. Image
3) I'll start by looking at the T-62s as they are now at record high proportion. Most of them are the T-62M (orange) variant first made in 1983. but a growing proportion has had the Orb 2022 modification (grey) in the last 2 years. Image
4) Next up is the T-72, the most common tank at the start. Well, most of these have now also had their own Orb 2022 (blue) modification, with the Obr 2016 (Yellow) becoming rare. Also, notice that the very old T-72A/Urals (orange) have always been rare and continue to be rare. Image
5) On to the T-80s, there are a few ways to show this on a graph, but I'm going for this simple version. Like the T-62 and T72, Orb 2022s have become more common, but still less than half. The T-80Us (blue) went from 60% to less than 5% in 10 months, but some still appear. Image
6 And now, the T-90s. I'm Using a quarterly bar graph, as the numbers are too small to do monthly. Note how the T-90A (blue) went from 100% down to almost nothing. Most have been lost T-90Ms for the last 18 months, with a few T-90S.

My theory is that the T-90As have (almost) disappeared, partly because of losses but mostly because they have been rebuilt into T-90Ms. Russia was making about 60 T-90Ms a year immediately before the war but claimed to have increased that to 200 a year in 2023.

That 200 number might be close to accurate IF you count rebuilds as 'new' Tanks. But the T-90As are (mostly) gone now, and I suspect production rates have/will come down closer to that 60-a-year rate.Image
7) This is a new graph from me. I have grouped the many different types and variants into 1 of 4 categories. I explain why in a bit. (Newest at the bottom of this graph)

1) New in build: T-90M and T-90A (blue)
2) Modern tanks in stage: T-90A, T-80B/BV/BVM T-80u/UD, T-72B, and B vairiants. (orange)
3) Old but complex tanks in storage, T-72A/AV/Ural, and all T-62s (grey)
4) Old simple tanks from storage, T-62, T-54/55. (yellow)

Notice how small the 'old but complex' portion is. It was slightly higher in the first 4 months of the war but tiny now.Image
9) The reason I did that graph that way was after looking at the exhalant 'google-doc' made available by @Jonpy99 link below. Which is based on numbers satellite-based counting of the Russian storage bases. It includes a lot of Russian equipment, such as tanks, IFVs, APCs, artillery, and so on. I understand that a lot of the Tank counting was done by @HighMarsed, but what to thank all those involved, @CovertCabal @waffentraeger @Ath3neN0ctu4 @ukrainecontrol @hizzo_jay @AS_22im and any others I have missed.
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@Jonpy99 10) The reason I grouped like that was I looked at this section of the Google doc and noticed that there were big differences in the % taken for different types of tanks. But, it seems to be they could be simplified into 3 groups. Image
@Jonpy99 11) So, I created this 'mini' table for myself from their numbers. The 3 categories are the same as in the graph I did.
Modern: T-90A, T-80s, T-72B.
Old Complex: T-72A/Ural, T-64
Old Simple: T-62, T-54/55 Image
12) Notice the difference;
Over 3/4 of the modern tanks are now gone, and bear in mind that 117 of the T-72B on that are from a photo taken in May 2023 of the 904th base, so more are probably gone by now.

In contrast, it looks like the Old Complex tanks are barely touched. Most of these tanks, T-64s and T-72A/Urals were used by the LPR/DPR, not the main Russian army, at the start. It seems Russia either doesn't want to or can't reactivate these in any significant numbers. As Russia is reactivating older tanks, I don't think it's that they don't want to. I don't know where the 257 they have removed have got to, so few have been lost recently that I don't think many have made it to the front line. It might be that they are backlogged at a reactivation base. But bearing in mind that most/many of the T-64s Russia has lost were once captured from Ukraine. It's possible that those removed have been removed to be 'cannibalised' for spare parts to keep the other going.

The old simple tanks have seen 1001 removed, almost half at this point. So many can keep this part up for another two years, but in the three condition classifications used by the counters, only 111 are counted as decent, the rest split between poor and worse. So, it's possible that the rate of reactivation may slow down.
13) So coming back to this graph, sowing the number of Russian IFVs lost for each tank lost. Does it sound credible that the change might be that Russia now has fewer tanks available to it? Image
14) And back to this graph from the first tweet:
Has 'production' of the T-90Ms dropped from 200 down to 60 a year, while T-80 and T-72B reactivation is now dwindling, T-72A/Ural and T-64s 'can't happen' at least not at scale, so it's only T-62s and T-55s coming out now. Image
15) For what it's worth, I think most of the T-54s and 55s are being used for tank crew training in Russia.

Their larger size makes them good training platforms as you can fit an instructor in the tank with students, while their weakness on the battlefield does not matter.

It would also explain why we see so few losses compared to the number removed from storage.
16) I would like to thank all those who do work analysing this stuff and making it available for people like me, in particular @warspotting @WritingFates @Jonpy99 @CovertCabal @HighMarsed all of which are worth following.
The data tables are here: Image
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@WarSpotting @WritingFates @Jonpy99 @CovertCabal @HighMarsed 17) And my biggest thanks have to go to the Ukrainian armed forests and all who help contribute to the destruction of the Russian Army.

If you feel similarly, please join me in donating to @wilendhornets whose drones are so devastating to Russain Tanks or @U24_gov_ua

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Oct 14
1) More Russian IFV/APC losses added in the last 24 hours (16) to @WarSpotting than happened all of September combined. (14) Image
2) I don't have any inside knowledge of Russian tactics, and 'loss analysis' always has limitations, so recognising those limitations, I'm not going to say why this is. But those that are suggesting that Russia might have stopped supporting small assaults with IFVs and instead are now doing small numbers of larger assaults, might be right.
3) One interesting thing is that of the 25 IFV/APC losses over half 13 are MT-LBs, mostly used as a rather simple APC.

Use of MT-LBs are a proportion of total losses has been increasing, Over 40% in sep (midpoint of 3 month average) again I don't know why, but interesting. Image
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Oct 4
1) A 🧵on Russian tank losses. In September russian losses returned to a more normal distribution, T-80s and T-72 each make up about 1/3 of losses, most of the rest are T-62s, and T-90s stay in the 5-10% range. Image
2) T-90 losses are now exclusively T-90Ms, only 2 T-90As have been lost this year, the last in April. This reinforces my long held assumption that Russia has been upgrading there T-90As to T-90Ms, And probably means they are now few if any T-90As left, new T-90M production is probably back to 60-80 a year.Image
3) T-80 losses have not shown any big recent change, but Unmodernised T-80BV (Dark Blue) continue to become less common, and ether T-80BVM Orb 2022 or Orb 2022s of unknown (BV or BVM) modle, (yellow and light blue) together now make up over half the total. Image
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Sep 26
1) Russian tank loss update, while most of our attention is on the stunning Ukraine offensive against Russia Oil refining; Russia continues to lose tank. Russia is still losing a lot of very old T-62 Tanks, but the proportion is down over the last 2 months. Image
2) this striking chart is perhaps the big news from this months Russi losses, it shows the ratio of Tanks to IFVs, we have gone form 2-3 IFV/APCs for each tank lost to less than half an IFV/APC to each tank lost. Image
3) That's because the number of IFV/APC losses, (yellow) has dropped dramatically. Transport losses however are up, and most others are about normal for this point in the month. Image
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Sep 21
1) Dramatic change in the make up of Russia losses this month. A big drop in the proportion (and absotte numbers) of IFV/APC losses (Light Blue) and rise in the proportion of Truck losses (light yellow near top) also some increase in tank proportion (dark yellow at bottom) Image
2) Here in table format, only 6 IFV/APCs (yellow) but 37 transport (orange).

I dont know whats driving this change, but I think it's too large to be random. my first thought/theory is that it might be related to the 'point' system that Ukrainian Drone forces operate under. Image
3) Here is a graph format, comparing tank to IFV/APC visually confirmed losses you can see the full and dramatic change. This graph is 'mid point of 3 month average' except September 25.

Normally there are 2-3 IFV/APCs for every tank lost, now it's the other way around. Image
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Aug 10
1) The big story in Russian Tank losses, Is the decline in absolute numbers, (more on that in a bit) but there is also a significant change in the types lost. (Data from @WarSpotting ) with most of the decline happening in T-80s. 🧵 Image
2) This graph is the same data as the first graph, but without the '3 month averaging'. T-62s and T-90s look like significant increase but their numbers are stedy, T-72s have declined proportionately to the overall reduction so there share is about the same. Image
3) The decline has been ongoing for a long time, but June and July were paticly low. Image
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Jul 26
1) Over half of the Visually confirmed and identified (by @WarSpotting ) Russia tank losses this month are T-62s!

That is to say of the 12 Russian tank losses in July, 9 can be identified by type, 2 T-90s, T-72s and 5 T-62s.

There are caveats: 🧵 Image
2)
a) With only 12 tank losses this is not a statistically significant sample.
b) Even if continued continued for many months, it does not necessarily mean that the majority of russian tanks are T-62s, it may be that older tanks are more vulnerable so lost more.
3) With the caveats out the way, this is what that looks like on a graph, T-62 losses (orange) are spiking, T-90s (green) also a record proportion of the total, T-72s down(yellow) and no T-80s (blue) so far this month. Image
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