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Dec 22, 2024 19 tweets 7 min read Read on X
1/ A look into the state of many of the remaining armored vehicles in storage and how useless they are, along with their storage facilities 🧵 Image
2/ I'm well aware that many people look at the spreadsheet at feel demoralized by how much stuff Russia still has in reserve. Alas, that's not entirely the whole picture. Let's take the stored BTRs as an example. Image
3/ If you look at the sheet, it appears they still have a bit under two thirds of the prewar stock. Is it true tho? docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…Image
4/ Actually, as I explained in many other previous threads, we take into consideration stuff classified as "worse" that, while not entire write offs, certainly doesn't look very promising for frontline service. Image
5/ @CovertCabal and @Rebel44CZ addressed this not so long ago, when Covert released his video on the 111th base and how almost all the BMPs there are junk (see the pic in the previous tweet).
6/ For a bit more complementary info on the subject of this thread, also check this one:
7/ But back to the subject at hand, it looks like Russia still has overall 2358 stored BTR-60/70/80s out of the 3673 it had in storage before the war. Let's take a closer look at them. Image
8/ In reality, most of the vehicles are older BTR-60s and -70s, and in poor condition. How poor? Well, take a look at 1063rd Logistics Center in Saigrajewo, at the vehicle storage at Kaliningrad or at the 372nd in Smolino: Image
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9/ Many such places. But what's more important, how long has it been since they were last moved around at parked at their current spots?

It was 2010 for the BTRs in the 372nd (there's no previous public footage of the site): Image
10/ 2020 for Saigrajewo: Image
20/ 2018 for Kaliningrad: Image
21/ And there's a lot more places, like the 1690th NBC Storage Base near Rzhanitsa, where they have been unmoved since at least 2014: Image
22/ Or the 7007th near Jekaterimburg, with no changes since 2017 either: Image
23/ The point is, this happens across a lot of bases, and not just BTRs. They're just the perfect example for this thread, but it's mostly the same with other armor types such as MT-LBus, BTR-50s, BRDM-2s and even BMPs and tanks at certain bases like the 111th or the 2544th. Image
24/ So the real numbers surely are lower, but we can't write off scores of equipment just like that without very high confidence, so we just keep them in the "worse" condition because they probably only serve as spare part sources, in the best case scenario for Russians. Image
25/ And not just armor, obviously, but also every other type of stored equipment. Image
26/ A vehicle that doesn't move for so long is a dead vehicle, unless a very expensive and time-intensive repair process is applied to them. And if you don't believe me, you surely have seen what happens to abandoned civilian cars over just a few years in the open air. Image
27/ So I hope this clarifies some incertanties and fears regarding how much Russia still retains after almost 3 years of peer warfare. See you soon! Image
28/ Tho tbh just seeing this is enough proof that maybe they don't have as many armor as they like to claim lmao.

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More from @Jonpy99

Nov 20
Just got another update from the 111th. Some interesting things: by now most tanks in this base are the ones in this spot (pics are from September on Google Earth): Image
Like in most bases, the scrapyard has been mostly cleaned out: Image
And most of the refurbed BMPs have been dispatched and are no longer in the 111th: Image
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Nov 13
The pace at which these BMPs are being pulled out of this base is so unexpected. Most rows are already half empty, and it's only been 2 months since they started. I was never expecting this from the 111th, it's so noticable yoh don't even need high res imagery to see it.
T-54/55s as well, but that's not so surprising.
Just to make it more clear, these were the rows of BMPs in the main area of the 111th base that didn't look (for the most part) like were missing structural components such as turrets or engines back in 2022: Image
Read 7 tweets
Nov 6
1/ It's time to take a look at Russian tank productions and refurbishment rates! Long time delayed, I know, but finally here! This first part of the thread will be about T-54/55s, T-62s, T-64s and T-80s. T-72 and T-90s and specifics on the industry will come in the second part. Image
2/ Here’s the previous threads, first about APCs, where I also explained the fundamentals and methodology:
Read 87 tweets
Oct 30
Lyman looking as bad as Pokrovsk and Kupyansk.
There's one fundamental reason for everything that we're seeing lately, and it's been in the making for 2 years already: Zelensky & co refusing to understand that this is a war of survival and not enacting a proper mobilization. Corruption, incompetence, political interests...
Call it whatever you want, but at some point it's not even Syrskiy's fault anymore. YOU CAN'T HOLD GROUND WITHOUT INFANTRY. Everything and everywhere is atrociously undermanned.
Read 8 tweets
Oct 8
Since some people are wondering how many of the "poor" and "worse" tanks can ever be brought back to service, let me explain it once more: ALL OF THEM. It's just a matter of money and time, and how willing the Kremlin is to waste its assets. Image
Take for example the 2456th tank storage base. The main facility is the one already known, but to the right there's the old scrapyard. Right when the war started they were scrapping T-62s and 64s there, but they stopped for obvious reasons: Image
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We included this tanks in our count, as explained by @CovertCabal in his video about the 2456th, because the ones remaning weren't yet scrapped, tho they're in a terrible state. Image
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Oct 8
Thanks to the kind benefactor we observe that in 3-4 months things have changed a lot for the Russian tank reserve:
- Overall tanks have dropped from 3,106 to 2,478.
- More specifically, T-72As, which previously stand almost the same as prewar, have dropped from 900 to just 461. Image
Even at bases which previously hadn't seen abrely any tank drawdown like the 2544th, which also has T-62s, T-72As are being pulled out like crazy. Image
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No surprise, considering other recent developments linked to this one, which are what allowed us to suspect in the first place T-72As were fastly being removed from storage bases:
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