🧵Big fat thread on the countries* changing course on 'puberty blockers' (i.e. drugging kids out of puberty) or raising the alarm:
🇧🇪 Belgium
🇨🇦 Canada
🇩🇰 Denmark
🇫🇮 Finland
🇫🇷 France
🇩🇪 Germany
🇮🇹 Italy
🇳🇱 Netherlands
🇳🇿 New Zealand
🇳🇴 Norway
🇸🇪 Sweden
🇬🇧 United Kingdom
🇺🇸 United States
Hope it's useful! Please bookmark for future reference and add any info you have on other countries 🙏😀
Ok, let's gooooo!
*This can refer to national government, local government, national health authorities, independent health bodies and / or medical practitioners
2 / 🇧🇪 BELGIUM
2024
A report by paediatricians and psychiatrists calls for the reform of ‘gender care’ for children and adolescents following a 60% rise in Belgian teenagers being prescribed PBs.
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith introduced Bill 26 that will ban the prescribing of PBs to those under 16 (unless they're already on them). The bill has passed its third and final reading and will take effect once its been signed into law (probably in the next few months). Two 'LGBTQ+' orgs are challenging the law in court.
Denmark dramatically shifts from prescribing PBs to therapeutic counselling after the clinicians assessing youth and approving them for medical interventions began to acknowledge the lack of sufficient evidence, the unexplained rise in girls presenting with late-onset gender dysphoria, and the high rate of psychiatric co-morbidities. The influence of social factors in youth presenting with gender dysphoria is also acknowledged.
The Finnish national gender clinic for children and adolescents publishes research raising concerns about the overrepresentation of girls and prevalence of autism and severe psychopathology
Finland changes its protocol for adolescent gender services – patients dealing with more urgent psychiatric issues are to be treated for these first before being assessed for ‘gender identity’ issues
The Finish Health Authority (Palko / COHERE) issues new guidelines stating psychotherapy should be the first-line treatment, not PBs, after its systemic evidence review finds
- inconclusive evidence for their use
- that most pro-PB studies are biased and unreliable
- that the use of PBs for gender dysphoria is essentially ‘experimental’
The guidelines urge caution and limiting PBs to those with early-childhood onset gender dysphoria and no co-occurring mental health conditions. The guidelines raise the concern that puberty blockers may negatively impact brain maturity
France’s National Academy of Medicine urges “the greatest caution” when administering PBs for gender dysphoria and highlights the influence of social factors in the rise of minors presenting with gender dysphoria
The Bundesärztekammer (250 delegates from 17 different German medical associations), passed a resolution to restrict PBs to controlled clinical trials, noting the lack of evidence and the lifelong consequences of youth medical transitioning. This is an independent body and its resolutions do not have binding authority
The primary youth gender clinic at Careggi University Hospital comes under scrutiny after a senior medical official tells a newspaper that therapy should not be a requirement for being prescribed PBs (which goes against national guidelines). The Health Ministry launches a probe into the clinic, which found data reporting to be weak and psychiatric assistance lax 🚨In some cases, children were prescribed PBs without having been assessed by a national health neuropsychiatrist!
A government-appointed committee is currently reviewing treatment guidelines for children and adolescents with gender dysphoria.
The UMC in Amsterdam publishes a statement in response to the final Cass Review Report, disagreeing with the conclusion that there is insufficient evidence 🤦♂️ and questioning the ethics of a clinical trial (as this would deny PBs to those who are not part of a trial... 🥴)
New Zealand prescribes PBs up to 7 times more than countries such as The Netherlands and the UK due to easier access to the drugs and a lower threshold for a diagnosis of gender dysphoria
The Ministry of Health removes text from its website that states “puberty blockers are safe and fully reversible,” following research into the clinical effects of PBs on adolescents in other countries
The Ministry of Health releases its evidence brief on PBs, following a literature review that included the Cass Report. It concludes there was poor evidence for the benefits and urged a more cautionary approach with holistic care as a starting point. Health agencies will now develop updated guidelines for clinicians and are tasked with finding ways to strengthen the evidence base. A targeted consultation will be conducted on introducing tighter controls.
The Healthcare Investigation Board (UKOM) publishes a report recommending that national guidelines on the use of PBs be revised to reflect the lack of sufficient medical evidence, and recommends their use for clinical trial settings only. It suggests they needs to be acknowledged as an ‘experimental’ intervention
OK, United Kingdom - where the push back initially began as early as 2004 because of @sueevansprotect and then @Transgendertrd 👏👏👏
So many others have been involved since and made a difference (that would be a whole other thread!). Here are some key milestones from the last 4 years:
2020
NHS England revises its online guidance for PBs, removing the text “The effects of treatment with GnRH analogues are considered to be fully reversible,” and replaces it with “Little is known about the long-term side-effects of puberty blockers in children…” and “It is not known what the psychological effects might be”
2020
NHS England suspends the prescribing of PBs for new patients following the Bell V Tavistock judgement that focused on whether minors were able to consent to treatment
2022
NHS England announces it will close Tavistock GIDS following its ‘inadequate’ rating by the Quality Care Commission, as well as the findings from the Cass Review Interim Report that deemed the service ‘unsafe’. NHS England is planning to open regional centres offering ‘holistic’ care
Following a consultation, NHS England issues its new policy on PBs, restricting their use to clinical trials
The Commission on Human Medicines (CHM), an independent expert body which advises ministers on the safety and efficacy of medicines, advises that the current prescribing environment is unsafe
Following the publication of the final Cass Review Report, NHS England stops the routine prescribing of PBs. NHS Scotland follows suit.
The Tavistock GIDS clinic closes. Two new regional hubs open, with 4 more in the planning.
The Conservative Government temporarily bans private prescribing of PBs. The new Labour government extends this ban twice before making it permanent, with Health Secretary Wes Streeting describing the previous approach to prescribing PBs as a “scandal”
The Karolinska Institutet stops the use of PBs unless there is a specific clinical justification. Therapy and psychiatric treatment are the first port of call. The decision is based on a systemic evidence review by the Swedish SBU, a systemic evidence review by NICE (UK) and the Bell V Tavistock judicial review (UK, 2020)
The Swedish National Board of Health & Welfare (part of the ministry of health) issues a national policy update mirroring that of the Karolinska Institutet
The place where drugging kids out of puberty truly went nuts (thanks Norman Spack) and institutional capture is running riot. Still, at least 26 states have now introduced bans or restrictions on PBs so the US would need its own thread.
2025 is going to be a big year in the States as Trump becomes President again, having vowed to "protect children from gender insanity" and stop the "chemical, physical, and emotional mutilation of our youth"
We'll also be getting the judgement from the Supreme Court in United States V Skrmetti, a landmark hearing on whether the state of Tenessee's 2023 ban on PBs constitutes 'sex discrimination' or not.
15 / So there you go! If you ever wonder "So which countries have actually banned / restricted blockers?" I hope this answers that question 😉
Please add any additional info you may have 😀
And what do you make of all of this - do you feel the tide is turning? Could even Tranada see sense? Will Australia start taking notice? Can a clinical trial in the UK ever be ethical? Do you think those with pharmaceutical interests will abandon PBs as an income stream?
And most importantly... how can we convince parents of kids already on these drugs to stop?
We're a long way from being out of the woods... but seem to be moving to a clearing in at least some countries
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1 / The Madness of Trans Exhibit #1957679: Traniela
"Trans women are just as much women as c-sgender women"
"Respect my pronouns"
"Learn to comply with gender identity laws"
2 / Like so many middle-aged crossdressing straight men, 'Traniela' could no longer contain his compulsion and now centres his entire life and 'identity' around it
He is married and has fathered 3 children
He appears not to have undergone any surgery or to be taken hormones, but has scolded other men with magical lady feelz for 'discriminating against him' for not acknowledging him as a 'transexual'
1 / Mammoth thread 🧵🦣 Had a challenging chat yesterday with a dad (an old friend) whose son started 'puberty blockers' a few months ago. Had to navigate a very complex conversation on the spot:
▶️ what to say
▶️ what not to say
▶️ how to communicate certain things to make sure they landed
▶️ giving him enough space to process what I was saying
▶️ noticing his body language and facial expressions
▶️ giving him enough space to ask questions and share whatever he wanted to share
▶️ ensuring he felt comfortable enough to share deeply personal stuff in the first place, and to be able to do so without feeling like he was being judged as a parent
▶️ how to not let my own emotions get in the way or become a distraction - this situation was first and foremost about a worried dad and his distressed son
We talked for hours and were both so happy to have been able to have this kind of conversation, but it was also upsetting as it put certain dark realities into very sharp focus.
I'm posting about it here in the hope it will help some of you navigate these conversations when you're faced with them, and would love to hear your thoughts on what you've found to be helpful from your experiences.
We cannot underestimate the importance of these conversations and the impact they may have. There is no magic formula but together we can work out some key pointers for 'best practice'.
I'll add annotations in italics.
M = Menno
F = Friend
OK, let's go...
#KeepSpeakingKeepPeaking
2 / An old friend messaged to say he was visiting the UK with his teenage son and wanted to meet up. We met at uni back in 1994 (!) and had last seen each other 7 years ago. We don’t really keep in touch regularly but always have a good time when we meet and simply pick up where we left off.
He sent me a pic of him and his son and I went “Uh oh…” His son looks young for his age, has very long hair and quite an androgynous look in a soft / sweet / angelic sort of way. My first thoughts were “That’s the kind of kid that gets bullied” (I remember those days well myself) and “I hope he knows it’s perfectly fine to not be a ‘typical boy’ and that he doesn’t get sucked into thinking of himself as some kind of magical gender person.”
I was about to find out...
3 / We met at noon and it was so good to see him again. He’s such a friendly guy and always has the biggest smile. I noticed his son was shy and awkward, so I tried to be friendly and calm around him. He mumbled rather than spoke (like I used to), he tried to make himself physically smaller (like I used to), and seemed a bit vacant.
My friend asked me what I was up to these days and so I said I’d started looking into the conflict between sex and gender. His son immediately turned his face away and looked uncomfortable. “Maybe we should talk about that later,” I said to my friend. “I think that would be best,” he responded.” My initial hunch of “Uh oh” had unfortunately been right. Sometimes it’s not nice to be right.
1 / DOUBLE MASTECTOMIES promoted at local Brighton supermarket 🚨😲
Yesterday I went to get some I thought ice cream at @coopuk on St James Street in Brighton. The first thing you see as you walk in is a notice board with posters and leaflets for anything from local music events, maths tutoring, yoga… and getting your breasts surgically removed. All dressed up in the usual baby pink, baby blue and white and disguised by the word ‘top surgery’ so Joe Bloggs won’t take notice.
The leaflet is for an ‘advisory care service’ that puts women (who believe themselves to be male, or neither male of female, or whatever ‘identity’ they feel necessitates breast removal) in touch with surgeons in ‘medical tourism’ hotspots like Poland, Mexico, Thailand, the Czech Republic, and India.
I decided to speak to someone in the shop to see if they were aware of this leaflet.
2 / So I get my ice cream and pay at the self-checkout, then go up to the check outs where there were two staff members. One a young bloke on oestrogen, and a middle aged bloke. I ask the latter what the rules are for putting something on the notice board. “At long as it doesn’t have any swear words it should be fine.”
“There a leaflet on there that promotes double mastectomies”, I say.
“What?! Show me.” He comes out from behind the checkout and we walk to the notice board. “Well it’s gone now because I took it down. Got it in my bag. Here it is.”
And I showed him.
Pic 1: the leaflet
Pic 2: notice board after I took the leaflet down
I said “Top surgery is a euphemism for double mastectomies - but targeted specifically at girls and women who feel uncomfortable with their body. Should something like that be up on the board here? We’re talking breast amputation.”
“I hadn’t even seen it. Maybe because it’s Pride?” he said.
“Since when is Pride about amputation?” I ask. “Gays and lesbians fought to get away from ‘medical’ treatment, like lobotomies, electroshocks, castration.”
He pauses for a bit. “It’s kinda crazy how things have been hijacked huh?”
“This just seems really dodgy to me. Who even is behind this service? Do they even diagnose patients properly, or what is the process? Does it belong on a notice board next to yoga classes and a theatre show?”
“I wasn’t aware it was even there.”
“That’s why they use the ‘trans’ colours and obfuscating language. Because when it’s ‘trans’ no one is allowed to question it, right?”
“Well thanks for taking it down mate” he says, and I leave. Then I meet some people outside…
1 / This is the guy who stalks #LetWomenSpeak in London and posed as a detransitioned woman to get friendly with some of the regulars and get info / contact details.
He tries to get people arrested for any and every reason so if you ever see him *do not engage*
He even wore Kellie-Jay merchandise and had an adult human female flag to pretend he was ‘on our side’.
2 / First time I saw him was Spring or Summer 2022. He was hovering around Reformers Tree, some women were talking to him and I walked up to them. “Oh my god, MrMenno, I looooooove your videos!” he said. “Oh great - which one is your fave?” He looked at me blank, didn’t have an answer. Thought he was a TRA.
Then a month or two later he joined us at a summer picnic. That’s when he wore a Kellie-Jay scarf and said he was a detransitioned woman. I asked him some questions about his so-called ‘transition’ and he waffled a bit. I didn’t believe him.
3 / March 2023 he showed up, again with his scarf and this time an adult human female flag. There was a group of TRAs trying to intimidate the women. I filmed as I walked up to the gathering, and you can see him chatting with his TRA mates (note the one with the pink and blue hair). As soon as he saw me filming he quickly walked away.
- Marcus claims to be 'non-binary transgender' and wants to be referred to as 'she / her'
- Lucia said he is biologically and scientifically male
- Marcus is now suing Lucia for €11,000.
This is Marcus.
2 / Marcus is an activist and takes part in talks about feminism where he discusses 'transfeminism'. Here's an interview. He says that at home he 'pretends' to be a 'cis man'.
He recommends we read a book by Susan Stryker, a man who claims to be a lesbian (and was a keynote speaker at Lesbian Lives in Ireland in 2022).
3 / Lucia has put a crowdfunder up (use Google Translate to translate the webpage if the option doesn't come up automatically)