We can look at this question from multiple angles and see. 🧵
First, there was the "secondary attack rate".
When someone tested positive this measure could be taken of the percentage of household contacts that later tested positive.
If vaccines reduced risk of infection this should have fallen.
It did not.
Another measure is how many people developed antibodies before and after vaccine.
Next we can turn to USA to look at what happened to the amount of virus in the sewage.
Something weird happened in early 2022 (shortly after massive booster campaign) but the post vaccine waves prior to that were same dimensions as before.
If vaccine reduced the susceptible population from 10% to 1% (which it didn't!) then a wave would take much longer to pass through the population (based on incorrect conventional beliefs) - because the virus would find it harder to find a new host.
The timing did not change.
What about serious illness?
As with every wave there were geographical outliers unaffected. In summer and autumn 2021 those included UK, Portugal and Ireland - the most westerly European populations.
Elsewhere, there was little change in hospital admissions - perhaps some.
Nor in intensive care admissions.
Covid labelled deaths appear a little lower but...
excess deaths match the virus in sewage trajectory.
The slight difference in spring 2021 is because of earlier deaths in the vaccinated who get their infections earlier because of immune suppression.
Even in the UK, the Delta wave was flatter but over its full course nothing much changed in hospitals.
Covid labelled deaths were lower - but there are good reasons to think they were overdiagnosed earlier on.
If there was a vaccine benefit then it should have been evident in geographical regions unaffected before 2022.
It wasn't.
Mortality was equivalent to US or Sweden in first wave.
To believe the vaccines were effective you need to believe all sorts of false assumptions fed into models by false prophets:
1. Everyone was susceptible to every variant 2. Lockdowns postponed a covid tsunami 3. Vaccines then stopped the covid tsunami
You also need to persuade yourself that the repetitive waves lasting ~16 weeks with peaks since at same times of year to before, are somehow different to what we should have expected all along.
You can comment that there is more virus around now...
That is because vaccinated people have a worse response to covid than the unvaccinated.
The third dose of mRNA presents a risk of the immune sytem switching to "let's ignore it as if it's food or pollen" response (IgG4 class switching).
There's plenty of evidence that the vaccinated had a higher risk of infection as a consequence.
Far from making things better the vaccines increased risk in the first two weeks from immune suppression.
Increased risk long term.
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2024 and 2025 has seen total mortality at about the same level as ONS predicted back in 2018 (already taking into account ageing and growing population).
Let's look in more detail
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Over 85 year old rate (based on ONS pop estimates) have returned to their 2016-2019 trendline.
Despite massive excess there was never the expected deficit.
The ONS predicted far too many deaths in 2024 and undercorrected for 2025 (green line).
The picture is similar for 75-84 year olds with far too many ONS predicted deaths in 2024 and an small correction for 2025.
I have taken a deep dive to understand exactly what's happening with deaths of under 1 year olds.
Who wants to look at baby deaths?
I get it.
But DO NOT LOOK AWAY.
It is....
First of all I did this because of frustration with people arguing over what "expected" deaths should look like.
You can make up reasons for picking particular years and come up with a totally different story.
'99-'19 excess deaths from '21
'11-'16 deficit in deaths from '21
What can we do to see if the rise is meaningful?
First we can look monthly ('24 and '25 data is incomplete)
Here are the monthly deaths for females which rises from March 2021 (having been below expected before) and stays high except for deficit in winter 2021-2022.