Thread by @tribunaltweets

After the 10 minute break we will report on this thread.

Resuming.
NC - moving to interaction with SP over a patient who left without being seen. It's right A+E is busy
DU - yes
NC - triage is because you need to priotitise?
DU - yes
NC - waits can be long?

DU - yes
NC sometimes leave?
DU - yes
NC - can we assume they had waited a long time?
DU - without notes can't say
NC - not fair?
DU - not busy sometimes, no typical day. Probs busy can't speak to that date
NC - challenging env, poss to get things wrong b'cos comms get missed

NC - without ill will, comms can be difficult
DU - we focus on comms, because it's busy and urgent. is poss things get lost but try hard as important.
NC - everyone focusing on clarity, tone might be neglected?
DU - yes, when urgent can be blunt but often discuss after

NC - fatigue, distraction can lead to misunderstanding?
DU - A&E is a shifting environment, with diff situations, not a universal environment. Our training teaches to comm clearly even when busy.
NC - ref page of doc. called formal complaint. written account of interaction

NC - reads - on nightshift with SP, ignoring me as usual, Rhianna brought SP, SP answered to R not me, again recorded incident in phone, not as safety for patient issue. Sandie responded to R not you and didn't acknowledge your thanks.
DU - yes when I was close

NC - trivial no?
DU - not when it's a pattern, not even lookign at you again, not unreasonable to think ignoring.
NC - neither SP or R have mentioned this incident in evidence.
JR - SP said doesn't recall this incident
J - will check evidence

NC - nobody else remembers this.
DU - I didn't make it up, it's not unreasonable to say she's being off with me. May well be ignoring me.
NC - refs page. Note of R;s IX interview. Asked if aware of incident and to describe. She remembers conversation occured but not content

NC - contradicts you, she remembers SP and you talking.
DU - appears to contradict
NC - on night shift with SP as usual not acknowledging me, another mention of minor rudeness.
DU - yes that is my experience of the C, I felt rudeness
NC - more extreme than other small rudeness?

DU - yes, cos patient there.
NC - refs page. These are your phone notes. You had been recording her offences against you since 26th Aug
DU - documenting hostility, yes
NC - recorded 18th Dec one, if one of many why none of others here?
DU - don't work together much, don't documen

DU - everything, these were impactful, if i doc'd every incident I'd have no time for anything else.
NC - only most salient, these are the non trivial?
DU - not documented the trivial.
NC - at best you overinterpret incidents because of hostility to SP
DU - I'm not, don't think

DU - she should have to change with me if she doesn't want to. She has had deeply unpleasant experience and that has led her to be hostile towards me, hold no ill will. Not making it up
NC - you feel as trans status, female colleagues have to take part in immersive role play

NC - to affirm your identity?
DU - no my identity should be respected.
NC - what SP did by withdrawing is she opted out of that roleplay, that's why angry
DU - not angry, not a role play, I'm clear I don't expect her to share CR, not asked her to. Not in business of making

DU - uncomfortable. I think her opinion is wrong, I don't expect her to treat me disrespectfully.
NC - not enough for you that most colleagues are polite, compliant or frightened enough to play along, they all have to?
DU - not immersive role play, respect between colleagues

NC - I suggest reason it's not acceptable for SP to opt out is that one voice, breaks the spell. Emperors new clothes. You need complete control. The spell would be broken.
DU - there is no role play. not concerned re Emperors new clothes, not concerned about spell. I'm not a man

DU - don't need external validation to know myself. Even if some didn't believe my identity, wouldn't change who I am or that we all have to treat each other with respect.
NC - JR has made it clear that basic respect involves SHe/her pronouns
DU - yes
NC - JR said its an HR abuse

NC - to call you he him
DU - yes that's what she said.
NC - the danger for you of the Emperors new clothes, is the risk that it brings the premise tumbling down. Why you are keen to impose your language on SP and this legal team.
DU - no don't require others to, it upsets me, it

DU - hurts and it means I am not respected. Don't need your validation, would like your respect.
NC - right thou that your legal team sought a decision that SP and we pay lip service to your language.
JR - what I sought was English/Scottish bench book and prof regs that we

JR - respect pronouns.
NC - same thing
J - it's context
NC - in that context you asked we use your language.
Confusion
J - lets go back.
*baby on audio pause to fix.*

J - probl with remote access today. Asks earlier question re direction to use DU's language.
*more audio issues adjourning for 5 to sort out - people on camera and unmuted.*

Reports that proceedings are continuing without remote access till tech issues can be resolved.

We understand that we have missed some lines of questioning regarding the order of events around the investigation(s) and whether all documents have been produced.
Tribunal has broken for lunch.
Hearing will resume at 1:20.
We hope to be back up and running

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