Calley Means Stuns CNN Viewers With Two Devastating Takedowns Live on Air
Paul Offit and Pamela Brown came prepared for a debate. What they received was a reckoning.
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Calley Means (@CalleyMeans), ex-pharma consultant turned industry critic, came out swinging on CNN Wednesday in a fiery debate against infamous vaccine pusher Dr. Paul Offit.
Offit thought he could call RFK Jr. an anti-vaxxer without his own financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry being exposed—but he was wrong.
Things immediately got heated when Means exposed Offit’s shocking conflicts of interest on live TV while CNN’s Pamela Brown stood by and let it happen like a deer caught in headlights.
“What’s causing distrust in public health authorities is conflicts of interest, like Dr. Offit taking millions of dollars from pharmaceutical makers like Merck while approving and recommending pharmaceuticals on ACIP committees.
“Dr. Offit says that science is always settled when he himself has approved vaccines that have been recalled for causing organ failure in kids.
“Dr. Offit is talking about measles… But there were 300 deaths from measles a year before the invention of the vaccine. We have 38% of children right now with prediabetes. Bobby is focused on that. He’s focused on reorganizing the department. And that’s what we should be talking about, not this distraction,” Means argued.
@calleymeans After Offit finished uncomfortably smiling during Means’ rebuke, he responded to the claims, saying, “I don’t have a relationship with a pharmaceutical company.”
But Means later questioned:
“Is it appropriate for a member of a government advisory committee (ACIP) to have a $1.5 million salary paid by Merck and receive millions in pharma royalties while he’s issuing guidance on products those companies make?”
Offit went on to say that he doesn’t know what the cause of autism is, mentioning several “interesting” theories. However, he stated with certainty that vaccines are “the one thing that doesn’t cause autism.”
“Vaccines, I think, are really the safest, best-tested things that we give to children,” Offit said.
The next disaster for CNN unfolded when host Pamela Brown asked @CalleyMeans a vaccination question that completely backfired.
Means flipped the script, using her question to highlight how the media obsesses over “measles” instead of focusing on health concerns that truly matter.
PAMELA BROWN: “Is now a time to promote vaccines... especially among children who are being impacted by measles in places like Texas and in these six states where, according to health officials, they are unvaccinated?"
CALLEY MEANS: “Pamela, with respect, why aren’t you asking me about the fact that 50% of teens have obesity? There are breathless segments being run and seen on [infectious disease] day after day after day, Pamela. It’s breathless coverage of five measles cases.
“Why aren’t we asking why 16% of COVID deaths worldwide were Americans when we’re only 4% of the world population? Because the CDC said our immune system—no, it is related, Pamela. And let me say why: because the entire coverage of Bobby Kennedy is around measles.
“The Democrats said the word ‘measles’ 25 times in the first hearing and said the words ‘obesity,’ ‘diabetes,’ and ‘chronic disease’ zero times. The HHS priority document under President Biden said the word ‘equity’ 25 times, said the word ‘vaccines’ countless times, and did not say the word ‘obesity’ or ‘diabetes.’
“There is a problem right now because this is not zero-sum. We are focused on a very small subset that’s important—we need good infectious disease management. Bobby Kennedy, Dr. Offit, is not correct. Bobby Kennedy has said one thing about vaccines and one thing only: that they should be studied like any other product.
“Dr. Offit, on the ACIP committee, has recommended vaccines that have ended up being recalled for causing mass issues to kids. Bobby Kennedy has written multiple books, not about being anti-vax, but about having good science. And Dr. Offit is calling him anti-vaccine for literally just saying we need studies.
“Bobby Kennedy is not concerned with measles. He wants good policies with measles. He wants to attack the 92% of deaths in the United States, which is chronic conditions,” Means said.
Means continued to hammer the medical industry, exposing how it “doesn’t make money when children are healthy.”
“Pharma doesn’t make money when children are healthy. The hospitals don’t make money when the beds are empty. Chronic disease, just as a demonstrable statement of economic fact, is a great economic invention for the healthcare industry, which demonstrably makes money when patients are sick,” Means said.
Visibly frustrated as @CalleyMeans dismantled the narrative CNN wanted to push, Pamela Brown began frantically cutting him off before abruptly ending the segment, calling it a “spirited discussion.”
This debate made one thing clear: when mainstream news networks face someone who can challenge their narratives in real time, their arguments crumble, leaving viewers exposed to the truth.
While it’s safe to say that @CalleyMeans won’t be invited back on CNN anytime soon, this segment should serve as a stark reminder that the media’s goal is to push narratives, not to report the truth or host an honest debate.
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Before the hepatitis B vaccine was mandated for kids to attend school in almost all 50 states, the risk of a baby dying from hepatitis B was 1 in 7 million.
“That means you need to give 7 MILLION hepatitis B vaccines to prevent ONE death,” RFK Jr. says.
When you give 7 million vaccines to save one life, you’d better make damn sure it’s safe.
But is it really? Let’s take a look at the evidence. 🧵
Every newborn in America is pushed toward a Hepatitis B vaccine within hours of being born.
And that sounds completely normal to most people because the policy has been normalized for decades.
But when you take a close look at Hepatitis B, the risk group, the benefit math, and the forgotten safety record, the birth-dose policy becomes very difficult to defend.
Hepatitis B is a real disease.
Chronic infection can damage the liver, lead to liver failure, and increase the risk of liver cancer later in life.
That part is not the dispute.
The dispute is whether every newborn, including babies born to mothers who test negative for Hepatitis B, should receive the vaccine on their very first day of life.
You may have missed this news recently - the health insurance system in America is so broken, that the Trump administration is quietly rewriting the Affordable Care Act and buried deep in a monstrous 1,000+ page document is a ploy to let health insurance companies start lending money to patients to pay for their medical care.
That's right: if you get hit with a devastating diagnosis or an unexpected emergency, your "insurance" company won't just pay the bill... they'll offer you a loan instead. So you can go deeper into debt to the very same industry that's already failing you.
Let me say that again. You pay health insurance so that you'll be insured in a time of a health crisis. Already, health insurers are denying nearly 20% of claims and out of pocket expenses keep rising. So instead of them paying your bill, which is what you pay the insurance for, they'll now be incentivized to deny even more bills or raise out of pocket expenses in order to cash in on the interest they'll be collecting.
A third of American households are already drowning in medical debt — and now insurers get to pile on even more, with interest. While these companies rake in billions in profits, everyday people will be trapped paying back loans for the care they thought was "covered." This isn't fixing healthcare.
This is turning your health insurer into your loan shark — and making an already predatory, dysfunctional system even more financially crushing for ordinary Americans. Classic "you get sick, you go broke" American healthcare — now with extra debt servitude.
On the plus side, there is a company that is providing a solution to this problem. CrowdHealth, a member focused health care company is saving Americans tens of thousands of dollars, and in May of this year 100% of medical bills were funded.
No loans needed. No exorbitant premiums. No crazy out of pocket expenses. A model that is actually working, is not throwing Americans into bankruptcy because of an unexpected health event, is saving people money, and getting them the health care they need.
Andy Schoonover from CrowdHealth joins us now to discuss.
A billionaire recently mused that the ultra-wealthy get the top doctors, the best lawyers, the elite tutors, and wondered aloud what it would take to give every American that kind of access. Andy’s answer is that it already exists, just not the way Reid Hoffman imagines it.
Inside CrowdHealth, your income doesn’t decide your doctor. “Whether you’re making $30,000 a year or $3 million a year, you have access to the same doctors.” Members up and down the economic ladder have walked into Mayo, MD Anderson, Stanford, Cleveland Clinic.
The real threat to that access isn’t money. It’s bureaucracy. As government plans expand, the best doctors are quietly heading for the exits. Mayo Clinic recently dropped a slate of Medicare Advantage plans rather than swallow the government’s reimbursement rates. Andy’s read on the pattern is blunt: “Free markets tend to exit stage left and the government bureaucracy enters as the main character.”
His prediction is that within a decade the top doctors stop taking insurance entirely. CrowdHealth’s bet is that members who already pay doctors directly are built for exactly that world.
But cash-pay only matters if the money actually arrives when you’re the one in the hospital bed. So how does a crowd of strangers guarantee your bill gets paid?
Health insurance in America is broken.
Over 200,000 Americans go bankrupt because of medical bills every year—and many of them already had insurance. On average, 20% of claims are denied, leaving families stuck paying massive out-of-pocket costs after spending thousands on premiums.
But there’s an alternative.
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RFK Jr. once said: “They’re making $60 billion a year selling us vaccines, but they’re making $500 billion a year selling the remedies for the injuries caused by vaccines.”
“This is a really great business plan for [pharmaceutical] companies. You make people sick, and then you sell them the lifetime cure.”
This interview, which originally aired on September 17, 2020, was removed by YouTube for “medical misinformation.”
But was it really “misinformation,” or was RFK Jr. leading viewers to an inconvenient truth?
In just about every industry, a great product makes you rich beyond belief, except one: medicine.
The rules for enrichment work differently here. And the reason why is exactly what they don’t want you to know. 🧵
There’s a principle that I’m sure you’re familiar with: once you see it, you can’t unsee.
No industry built to solve a problem ever actually solves it. Think about it—a cure for the problem is a death sentence for the paycheck. The cancer charity that beats cancer has to close its doors. The dating app that finds you a partner just lost a paying user.
So problems don’t get solved. They get managed. Indefinitely.
And nowhere has this been turned into more of an art form than medicine.
We’re taught to see healthcare as a race toward cures. Brilliant minds, billions in research, all pointed at making disease disappear.
But that’s not how it works.
Let’s take a look at how the business model actually works. It’s actually pretty simple.
A cured patient stops paying. A managed patient pays forever.
When those two incentives collide, take a guess at which one usually wins.
Did you know that the death rate from measles declined by 98% BEFORE the measles vaccine was introduced?
“This is all on the CDC website… That decline had nothing to do with vaccines.”
So, if vaccines didn’t do it, what caused that decline from 1900 to 1963?
The answer is better nutrition, better sanitation, clean water, etc., according to Attorney @AaronSiriSG.
Yet “science” wants you to believe that vaccines saved the day.
But that’s not even the biggest vaccine deception. It’s what happens before they approve these shots for human use. 🧵
Faith in vaccines is just that. Faith.
Complete trust. Allegiance to duty. Belief in something for which there is no proof.
Medicine has carefully crafted a myth that it and only it rescued humanity from the dark ages of deadly disease. The kind of disease that was lurking around every corner, ready to wipe us off the map for all of eternity.
And because medicine so valiantly rescued us from erasure, it deserves ultimate supremacy. It should never be questioned. It can do no wrong.
A central part of medical mythology is the belief that vaccines ended infectious disease. And because it is indeed mythology and its adherents are acting on faith alone, it requires no proof and can simply dismiss any and all evidence against that bold claim.
But the evidence is not lacking. Far from it.
Despite medicine’s best efforts to hide and obscure it, those seeking the truth can plainly see it.
In this short presentation, Secretary Kennedy lays it out for all to see. There is no evidence that vaccines were responsible for the decline in infectious disease that has so aggressively been credited to them.
In 2014, 300 scientists warned Anthony Fauci would start a global pandemic.
Following the high-profile escape of three bugs from U.S. labs, these 300 scientists sent a letter to President Obama, urging him to shut down Anthony Fauci's gain-of-function research.
Obama issued a moratorium and shut down 18 of the worst projects by Anthony Fauci. In the end, he really didn't shut them down. Instead, Obama moved the research offshore to places like Ukraine, the former Soviet State of Georgia, and the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China.
Now, it is widely accepted that COVID-19 originated from that very lab in Wuhan, China.
Those 300 scientists were right about Fauci…
But the big question is, why are people like him so obsessed with creating dangerous pathogens in the first place? 🧵
Bioweapons research is always sold with the same simple promise:
We have to make pathogens more dangerous so we can learn how to stop them.
Honestly, that sounds insane when stated plainly.
But somehow this logic has funded a massive industry for decades, and the safety record is far worse than most people realize.
The public hears “pandemic preparedness” and imagines top scientists working tirelessly to prevent the next disaster.
But it’s not that simple.
The deeper problem is that this research often involves collecting dangerous pathogens, modifying them, storing them, passing them through animals, testing their behavior, and hoping the lab never makes a mistake.
Erica Drum was told her son Jackson would never breathe on his own again.
A hockey hit launched him headfirst into the boards. Broken neck & spine. Paralyzed.
Odds of recovery: 1 in 1,000,000
Jackson is now walking and has recovered every fine motor skill he lost.
What happened?
His loving mother took a chance on a substance called DMSO. And what followed was nothing short of a miracle.
ERICA DRUM: “[Doctors] said there was no hope of recovery… He is vent-dependent, feeding tube-dependent. We were told he is never going to eat or drink or be able to breathe independently.”
“I had a friend, and she’s like, ‘Hey, I know of this thing [DMSO] that’s supposed to help spinal cord injuries, and it helps reduce the swelling.’ And I’m like, ‘Okay, well maybe we can try that.’ Because at this point, we didn’t have any options.”
“We decided to try [DMSO] topically. We bought like a little rollerball one… We started that on day four or five, and by day seven, I would poke his feet or his legs, and he would open his eyes [despite being on intense painkillers].”
“And then there was a PT working with him, and she felt his hip flexor fire. And they’re like, ‘Oh my gosh.’ He went from an Asia A to an Asia C, which usually is not supposed to happen.”
“You’re either a severe spinal cord injury with no sensation, nothing, like an Asia A. You don’t go from an A to a C. From there, he was Asia C. And I’m still rubbing this stuff on him every chance I get.”
“I mean, I would rub that thing on him probably ten times a day. What’s interesting is I was able to rub it on the left side of his body more than his right side. His left side is definitely stronger.”
“The right side is slowly coming back. His hand grip on this side was like 1 pound probably four months ago. And now it’s up to 20 pounds. He literally has every single fine motor skill. It’s a matter of us now strengthening them.”
“He hasn’t used his wheelchair in three weeks… We moved to the arm crutches. And now in therapy, he’s working on walking without the arm crutches.”
“We were like ventilator-dependent, medication-dependent… And now we’re down to just the baclofen.”
“My son is one of the only people I’ve met that does not have the nerve pain with his condition. So he is off of all nerve pain meds.”
Jackson’s doctors can’t explain how he went from a quadriplegic to a walking, self-sufficient person again.
But his mother attests it was the DMSO.
The thing is, Jackson isn’t the only person with a story like this. 🧵
Jackson’s story is an incredible example of exactly why DMSO is so hard to dismiss.
A nerve injury recovery that looks impossible on the surface starts to make more sense when you look at what DMSO appears to do inside damaged tissue.
It doesn’t behave like a normal painkiller.
It acts more like a cellular reset.
And once you see what it can do… you can’t unsee it.
This information comes from the work of medical researcher @MidwesternDoc. For all the sources and details, read the full report below. midwesterndoctor.com/p/how-dmso-hea…