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Feb 22 16 tweets 5 min read Read on X
Some on this site have challenged my decision to highlight the size of China’s manufacturing surplus in the New York Times… and also questioned why I question China’s (modest) reported current account surplus.

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The decision to highlight the manufacturing surplus was easy.

Why: the $1 trillion increase in the manufacturing surplus (& the $500+ billion increase in the goods surplus) is in fact the story. The services deficit is basically unchanged relative to its pre-pandemic size.

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China’s estimated auto capacity also comes straight from the Times and their very good auto reporter. I did add a forecast for the increase in EV capacity over the next few years, but my argument maps to that industry exports like Mike Dunne.

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It is true that I didn’t highlight China’s reported current account surplus in my piece for the Times – but that’s for the simple reason that I think China’s 2021/22 methodology change has led China to under report its surplus

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Remember that China has two different measures of its goods surplus – and the gap between the two is now bigger than the services deficit. My estimates for the “true” external surplus revert back to China’s pre-2021 methodology

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And I also question the reported deficit in investment income – given that China has a large positive net international investment position and global rates have increased. The reported increase in the deficit flies in the face of common sense, and any model

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But why should anyone trust my estimates of China’s balance of payments over SAFE’s official data

Well, for one the disappearance of errors in the Chinese BoP data is a bit of a tell ...

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But I also have been doing this for a long time (20 years now) and have chalked a bit of a track record – so I I hope I have earned enough credibility to challenge SAFE (which initially was not transparent about its revised BoP methodology)

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I was among the first to realize that the annual Treasury survey data (custodial) data was doing a better job of picking up Chinas purchases of US assets than the monthly TIC data & thus among the first to identify China’s large purchases of Agencies

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I was among the first to realize that the fall in China’s reported reserve growth in 2006 was a function of SAFE swaps with the domestic banks, which led to a surge in Chinese portfolio outflows/ slower reserve growth

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More recently I was among the first to highlight that the stability of China’s reserves was a function of hiding interest income, and the increased role of the state commercial banks in fx management

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And I was among the first to highlight the significance of the “diversified use” of fx reserves that SAFE disclosed back in 2020 (an admission of policy bank funding)

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Perhaps most significantly, in spite of pressure from Taiwan's authorities, I worked with STW to put out a paper arguing that fluctuations in Taiwan’s central bank balance sheet implied that the CBC had more foreign currency assets than disclosed

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We estimated that this hidden portfolio was around $150b (using the balance sheet data of the central bank, the balance sheet data of the lifers and the BoP); and Taiwan subsequently disclosed $140 billion in previously hidden foreign exchange assets

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I hope that record gives me the crediblity to question China’s current account data, which started to diverge from the customs goods surplus (adjusted for the services) deficit in 2021, when China surreptitiously changed its balance of payments methodology.

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I don’t expect everyone will agree with my argument – but I would hope that those defending SAFE’s modest reported surplus and trying to claim that China's economy is in external balance would take my points seriously ...

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Feb 24
One of the main indicators of Chinese intervention in the foreign exchange market, fx settlement by the PBOC and the state banks, showed around $40b in sales in January -- a number that implies ongoing depreciation pressure

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Counting forwards, net fx sales over the last 12ms in this series were almost $200b -- nothing that China cannot afford, but not zero either ....

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But, as is often the case, different Chinese data series tell different stories. The net foreign asset position of the state banks and the PBOC rose by $150b in the last 12ms -- the $300b gap between these two series is unprecedented

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Feb 24
Why the IMF needs to understand the pricing of an iPhone ...

A new blog, one that is more controversial than it appears on first glance

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The export price of an iPhone (the most significant good made by contract manufacturers in China for an offshore company -- Apple) is of course central to SAFE's (i.e. China's) argument that China's goods surplus is much smaller than its customs surplus

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SAFE's argument has been that the customs price of the iPhone (reported by the contract manufacturer, i.e. a firm like Honhai) is much higher than the price Apple actually paid the contact manufacturer ...

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Feb 23
Happy to address this issue -- even if I don't expect Glenn to stop using his fuzzy trade math anytime soon.

The basis issue is around the accounting of errors in China's balance of payments.

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As the chart above shows, China's new BoP methodology has essentially zero'ed out errors in the balance of payments (errors = hot outflows) over the last two plus years. It did so by adjusting the BoP goods surplus down.

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Reverting to SAFE's pre 2021/22 (it was phased in over the course of 21) methodology effectively returns errors to their 2016-2020 levels, so it isn't a radical assumption (errors return to 1.5 to 2% of GDP at a time of low CNY rates and a Xi campaign v private business)

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Feb 20
Three points

1) Trade with China has benefitted commodity exporters, the owners of firms like Apple that profited off China's export model (w/o losing their competitive edge to Chinese rivals) and Western consumers. Manufacturing sectors much less so

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2) Many developing economies do have large concerns about unbalanced trade with China; India is the best example (their policy elite thinks letting China into the WTO was a mistake!). Brazil worries that Chinese steel is undercutting its industry

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Brazil, Turkey and others imposed limits on Chinese auto imports (insisting on local production); Chile wasn't happy that its only steel plant closed b/c of Chinse competition and now even Korea is worrying about Chinese steel dumping

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Feb 20
Mr. Hauge's comment here reflects a common critique of my NYT essay, namely that it puts too much emphasis on China and not enough on the US, which choose not to compete with China and benefits from cheap Chinese goods ...

I want to push back a bit

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As Michael Pettis noted in a thread of his own, China bears responsibility for its exceptionally high savings rate -- and if that savings level isn't absorbed domestically, it by definition requires offsetting imbalances elsewhere in the global economy.

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China's 45% savings rate is an extreme outlier globally, and it is problematic globally when one of the world's largest economies is also one of the most imbalanced economies.

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Feb 19
Trump's second term economic policy will be ... "foe"-shoring?

Less trade with Canada, Mexico, Europe and likely Japan (reciprocal tariffs, 232 sectoral tariffs) and more trade with China and Russia?

Creative I guess.

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A big trade deal with China that keeps the US market open to Chinese goods and perhaps rolls back some term 1 tariffs wasn't what Mr. Trump campaigned on.

Think he was talking about 60% tariffs

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And a big deal with China (and maybe Russia) while fighting trade wars with the EU, Canada, Mexico and others is a radical shift in years of US international economic policy.

One that I think is a bit mad to be honest.

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