derek guy Profile picture
Feb 26 13 tweets 7 min read Read on X
After my tweet about athletes in suits, a few people asked for my opinion on various players. The opinion is always the same: the clothes are too small; the combos are often bad taste. I will show you a basic transformation in the next few tweets. 🧵 Image
Image
Image
Image
First, let's look at Lebron. Here he is in two different white double-breasted suits, both outfits worn similarly (with white sneakers).

Which outfit do you like better? Please choose before moving on. Image
Image
If you said the first, then we share the same taste. In this case, iIwill tell you how to avoid the second.

When people get into tailoring, they often have a very clinical view of how something should fit. "Trousers should be slim" or "shoulder seam should be on shoulder bone."
Since many are not used to tailoring, they often think that a proper suit jacket or sport coat is too long. This is natural because their reference point is casualwear, such as bomber jackets or trucker jackets. Those are indeed shorter Image
Image
They also have in their mind that trousers should be slim bc you don't want to look like this meme.

The first step out of this is to rid yourself of the slim fit mind virus. Also totally disregard designers and trends. Think first of how a bespoke tailor would make a garment. Image
I can't list all the rules in this thread—and anyway, if you're interested, I've done many threads about this already—but a basic concept is that fit and silhouette are two different things. Fit is about whether the collar hugs your neck and whether things pull or pucker.
The irony is that everyone today thinks that slim is better, but most of the problems you see in tailoring—collar gap, shoulder divot, buckling lapel, pulling at the button, trousers clinging to the leg, etc—are a result of clothes fitting too slim. Image
Image
Once you nail fit, there's silhouette. The term silhouette refers to the outline (or shape) of your clothes once you take away the details. Notice how this garment broadens the person's shoulder line and makes their chest look bigger. this is the result of careful tailoring. Image
The reason why Lebron looks better on the left is because the garment has *shape*. The chest is nice and round; the jacket is longer. The garment has swagger. By contrast, the outfit on the right has no verve.

Ask yourself: does left-pic Lebron look like "baggy 1990s manager?" Image
Image
None of these outfits look good to me because the tailoring is not very impressive. It all looks like early 2000s trends, done 20 years too late, and produced using a made-to-measure factory system. The clothes have no shape; they just cling to the body. Image
Image
Image
Image
Many people, including me, like Colman Domingo's style. Beyond the high level of taste—meaning, the way he combines clothes—there's the matter of shape and drape. These clothes fit well, hang well, and have a distinctive silhouette. They're not just replicating his body. Image
Image
Image
Image
I will do a thread another time on how to wear tailoring with better taste. But on a very basic level, many athletes look bad in tailoring bc they are using MTM block systems reliant on 20 year old trends that are both out of date & unflattering on them.
I say this with no malice. I don't know any of these people and hold no ill will to them. I only lay this out bc everyday guys who are less famous and earn less money make the same mistakes, and I wish better for them. IMO, tailoring on the right is better bc of these concepts. Image
Image

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with derek guy

derek guy Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @dieworkwear

Aug 5
I disagree. I will tell you what's wrong with his jeans. 🧵
Let's start with an experiment. Here are two men wearing tailored jackets with jeans.

Which do you think looks better? Image
Image
If you choose the outfit on the right, then we have the same taste. But why does he look better?

The answer stems fro a basic rule of classic tailoring: the jacket needs to have a certain relationship with the trousers so as to form a harmonious whole. Image
Image
Read 10 tweets
Aug 3
On April 30th, Josh Smith of Montana Knife Company said you won't have to worry about tariffs if you buy American.

Last week, he realized his costs are going up bc he imports equipment and steel. And so do his suppliers.

IMO many people aren't aware of how much they import.
Genuinely not posting this to gloat, but hoping that people reevaluate how much of their life is connected to an international supply chain. Many small businesses, including artisans, will see their businesses shutter because of these tariffs, regardless of how they voted
Extremely long, but if you want to hear it, Josh breaks down the challenges he's facing. I hear similar stories in menswear (e.g., 3sixteen needing to import the best denim, which comes from Japan). All this now faces tariffs.

Glad I bought a Sebenza in MagnaCut before all this.
Read 5 tweets
Aug 2
I've had enough.

In this thread, I will tell you, definitively, whether Sydney Sweeney has great jeans.

This way, you will be more informed when shopping for your wardrobe . 🧵 Image
I should state two things at the outset.

First, I never comment on womenswear because I don't know anything about it. This thread isn't actually about Sweeney's jeans (sorry, I lied). But in the last few days, I've seen grown men buying American Eagle jeans and I can't abide. Image
Image
Second, while clothing quality matters, it's more important to develop a sense of taste. Buying clothes isn't like shopping for electronics — you don't "max out" specs. It's more like buying coffee — you sample around and identify what notes you like. Develop taste. Image
Image
Read 23 tweets
Jul 31
Sometimes I think about the closure of G. Lorenzi, a Milanese gentleman's shop that had been around for almost 100 years until their closure in 2014. The shop was special because it carried so many one-of-a-kind items from artisans — total handmade craft production, not factory. Image
Image
Image
Image
At the time of their closure, they still carried over 20,000 items of 3,000 models, including speciality knives, picnic sets, and nutcrackers. They had over 100 styles of nail clippers and 300 different hairbrushes alone. Proprietor Aldo Lorenzi scoured the world for artisans. Image
Image
Image
Image
There's nothing wrong with factory production. But as more of our lives get taken over by machines — including art and writing — this sort of production feels special.

Trailer for "A Knife Life," a documentary about the store by my friend Gianluca Migliarotti, available on Vimeo
Read 4 tweets
Jul 30
I spent 15 yrs on a menswear forum. The longest argument I had was over a tiny detail that can be seen in this photo. For 6 months, I argued with the same five guys non-stop every day. The argument got so heated the forum owner banned one guy for life.

Here is the detail. 🧵
As I've mentioned before, there's a lot of coded language in menswear. Navy suits can be worn with black oxfords because this was the uniform of London businessmen. Brown tweeds go with brogues because these clothes were worn in the country. In this way, we get formal vs. casual. Image
Image
The same is true for shoes. Tiny details come together to communicate something, much like how words form a sentence. Black is more formal than brown; calfskin more formal than suede or pebble grain; plain design is more formal than broguing. All of this stems from history. Image
Image
Read 20 tweets
Jul 27
How are Trump's economic policies impacting you?

Let me give you a hard example. 🧵 Image
The year is 2024 and you're browsing for a new shirt online. You come across a store selling shirts from Portuguese Flannel. You do your research and find they make quality garments: clean single-needle stitching, flat felled seams, quality fabrics, MOP buttons, classic designs Image
Image
So you go ahead and purchase one. The shop charges 139 Euros and throws in free shipping. Given the exchange rate in 2024, that means you paid $163.19.

It arrives and fits well. You are happy. Image
Image
Read 13 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us!

:(