Articles like this illustrate the corrosive nature of how media use the term “disinformation” as a stand in for actually covering things on the ground or reporting what happened
Here you have an entire article that admits 800 people were killed, the article claims that some old videos were repackaged and some people falsely reported that others were killed…but where is the evidence that the “disinformation” led to “intensified” violence? Do they mean the information that was provided to SNA-backed militias who went on a rampage in Latakia? No. They don’t even mention them
The one place that rumors and propaganda did influence killing was in the attacks by the militias in response to the pro-Assad attacks. But this article doesn’t seem to unpack that or discuss it. It doesn’t even seem to interview people on the ground. Because western media have been encouraged to discuss “disinformation” as a stand in for actual reporting
It’s not “disinformation” to spread an old video online, unless the person who posted the video purposely knew it was old and is purposely trying to create panic. But in a situation where 800 people have been killed, as the article says, people will naturally panic.
Let’s ask if this was Germany or Denmark and 800 people were killed in one day? Let’s say hundreds of members of a minority group were massacred in any European city? You’re probably expect panic and fear and lots of videos to emerge. Would it be “disinformation” if some of the videos or reports were wrong? Or would it be natural that in a situation where hundreds of people are killed that some information is wrong?
There was and is a very REAL NEED for media to INVEST RESOURCES in going to Latakia and speaking with people. But it’s easier to talk about “disinformation”…and this key word was put out as a talking point among everyone who backs the current government in Damascus. Basically every person who is involved started saying “disinformation” back on March 7. The second details emerged of civilians being massacred we were told it was “disinformation.” Except it wasn’t. Many civilians were killed. The exact number is not clear. However, one civilian murdered by security forces is TOO MANY
If police went on a rampage in a western country and murdered 200 civilians I think we’d all take it seriously rather than rush to cover it up with claims it’s “disinformation.” Only because it’s Syria, the murder of a hundred or two hundred civilians is seen as kind of a normal thing. And any report about it is dismissed as “disinformation.”
Contrarian view: There was basically no “disinformation” regarding the massacre in Latakia. There were some inflated death tolls. A few old videos. The fact is that the pro-Damascus crowd immediately began saying “disinformation” about the killings. Most of them then had to admit that numerous civilians were murdered but they shifted the blame to “extrajudicial” killings etc. “disinformation” is a corrosive talking point used to obfuscate and cover up what is happened and get journalists not to cover things from the ground
Every time you hear the word “disinformation” you have a duty to investigate. Usually they are using this term to get you not to look deeper and find out what happened from people on the ground. They want you to believe everything you hear is a conspiracy as opposed to find out the details.
Ask questions, investigate. Don’t let media just say “disinformation” and then have THAT be the story.
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The IDF released a report on the failure of October 7 to defend Kibbutz Nir Oz. The report is worse than expected. It shows the IDF didn't defend this community at all, and only arrived at 13:10, more than six and a half hours after the attack began. Hamas and other terrorists had already come and left, they had complete control of the place and could do basically whatever they wanted. There was a small local security team from the community, but it was overwhelmed.
The small community was massacred; 47 people murdered, 76 kidnapped.
Jpost; "October 7 probe: IDF only arrived in Nir Oz after Hamas terrorists left because it was 'far away'" jpost.com/israel-news/ar…
The Golani Brigade's 51st Battalion was defending the sector, but it was understrength. The IDF completely failed to plan for or even apparently think about how to defend this community. It's strange because one assumes the IDF wouldn't have behaved this way in the north or the West Bank. Something about Hamas in Gaza cast a spell over Israel and its defenses such that this border was almost treated like a peace border.
According to Ynet "The battalion had 182 combat soldiers and 57 support personnel in the northern Eshkol region, prepared for an infiltration scenario from a single point without warning. Near their base, Judy and Gadi Weinstein were preparing for their 6:06 a.m. morning walk, unaware they would be Nir Oz’s first victims that day."
This became their main talking point the day before the Bibas children were buried. This is what these people came down to.
No words.
Note, they don’t say they will do the minute of silence, they just want to add the whataboutism. There is a reason they trotted him out the day before the burial to do this.
Never forget
A quick thought on this. Where was this talking point on October 8 when there were 38 dead children as a result of the Hamas massacre? What was Daniel Levy's talking point on that day?
The thing is that on October 8 you don't see this talking point about a minute of silence. It's only a day before the Bibas funeral that they trotted this out. And note they don't include the other 38 children killed on October 7. It's all about doing "whataboutism" because the Bibas funeral is in the spotlight. For a year they never mentioned the Bibas family, only now, in order to downplay and whatabout the tragedy.
For many years there was a subset of critics of Israel who would say things like "I want Israel to reflect my liberal/progressive values." And they expected to take part in a discussion where reasonable people would say "well I can understand that, let's debate Israel's policies, I understand why you feel uncomfortable with some of them." They posed as being inside the tent of Israel discussions, merely objecting to Israel's "policies." And they were taken at face value by moderates and centrists.
Some of these types of people would even come to Israel, they'd spend most of their time with Palestinians, or at unrecognized beduin villages, or supporting African refugees. They posed as just wanting Israelis to support their progressive causes.
Then came October 7 and these folk were all silent. They never posted one photo of hostages, never had any empathy for Shani Louk or Naama Levy, they never wanted their "social justice" faith to mention the hostages...their "social justice Passover" never mentioned those held in Gaza. It never mentioned the Bibas children.
What is further surprising about kidnappinig and murder of the Bibas children, and now the decision by Hamas to lie about returning the body of Shiri Bibas, the mother, is the way Israel has always been surprised at every turn of events, always reacting.
Israeli officials have vowed to avenge the latest Hamas action; but the fact is that since Oct. 7 Israel has always been reacting. Israel was taken by surprise by the Hamas attack. Shiri, Yarden, Kfir and Ariel Bibas were kidnapped from Nir Oz.
The family were alive when they were kidnapped. Israel now believes that the children were killed in November. However, that means that during October the baby Kfir and toddler Ariel were alive. Between October 7 and 27 four adults were released by Hamas; two American women and two elderly women. However there was seemingly no priority put on getting the Bibas children out of Gaza. Why?
One thing that has interested me a little since the hostage deal began, is the lack of interest in the freed hostages or the victims such as the Bibas children, among self-defined progressive Jewish circles in the US. I mean groups such as rabbis involved in human rights or academics or social justice activist types and commentators. It's a small, niche group of outspoken people, but symbolic.
What I see is a collective silence from them, a decision apparently to never post images of the Bibas children, never post images of women hostages or Hamas parading emaciated male hostages. Basically anything related to hostages who are Jewish and Israeli is considered something they won't discuss or empathize with or post about.
It's hard to quantify because most of these people have left this platform but some of them still post elsewhere and you can look at their posts since mid-January and see. Is it a collective decision since Oct. 7 in most of these groups to never mention Jewish victims of Hamas crimes?
I think it's important to understand that Hamas purposely targeted civilian communities that had been involved in peace because Hamas' goal is one state. Hamas is weakened by peace and two states. Hamas was created and grew in the late 1980s and early 1990s largely in opposition to Oslo and peace.
Whenever there was a chance for peace Hamas has come along to destroy it, to create war. When Israel left Gaza there was a chance for Gaza to be governed in a peaceful way and pave the way for two states. Hamas took over to use it as a base to prevent peace.
What's strange is that Hamas is not only backed by Iran, which wants to destroy Israel; but the West supported having Hamas leaders in Doha. Hamas is backed by Doha and Ankara, two western allies. As such the destruction of peace requires a discussion of why western countries wanted Hamas in Doha.