Attorneys are entering courtroom here at DC federal court
Judge James Boasberg has 3pm hearing to get to the bottom of why his orders to "turn the planes around" wasn't complied with last month.. When Trump Administration used 18th century law to deport Venezuelans
Judge Boasberg doesn't waste time. He opens hearing noting the "public attention" being attracted by these deportations of Venezuelan nationals.. and the court order that was NOT complied with
Judge asks DOJ to confirm that they *knew* his order didn't prevent gang members from remaining jailed.... and didn't prevent them from being deported thru normal means
Justice Dept attorney: "Yes your honor"
Judge asks Justice Dept to confirm that they knew his order didn't call for the suspected gang members to be released
Justice Dept attorney: "Yes your honor"
Judge gets the Justice Dept attorney to confirm that anybody claiming judge's order would "release" suspected gang members .. was making a false statement
About March 15 deportations...
Judge: When was proclamation made? March 14th or 15th?
Justice Dept attorney says he believes it was 14th. And he tells judge he doesn't know why it wasn't announced until March 15th
Judge asks if the Alien Enemies Act deportation order wasn't announced until March 15th .. to avoid court scrutiny
Judge Boasberg notes how Trump has since claimed that he didn't sign proclamation
Justice Dept attorney says he hasn't seen Trump's press conference in which he said so
Judge Boasberg: Immigration and Customs Enforcement *clearly* knew about Alien Enemies Act proclamation before 3:53pm on March 15
Judge says the people in Texas couldn't have rounded up 3 planeloads of people in time... if they first knew to do so at 3:53pm on March 15
Judge Boasberg: The morning of March 15... "scores" of Venezuelan nationals were loaded on to buses ahead of deportation
Judge: Clearly immigration agents were working on deportations before 3:53pm on March 15
Justice Dept attorney: "You could draw that inference"
Judge Boasberg counterpunches on that argument by Justice Dept
"What other inference could you draw???"
Judge Boasberg asks what other inference one could draw: Besides that an expedited effort was made to get deportees on plane before the hearing he scheduled for March 15
Judge: Proclamation was signed on March 14th... then not publicized until 353pm on March 15th.. "while people are being bussed to planes in the morning"
Justice Dept attorney says "there are no facts in the record" that they were trying to circumvent court
Judge: "Only because I was available.. when i was notified at 725am on Saturday morning.. and could review (the motion) and the case was then assigned to me" did hearing happen Saturday
Attorneys for the Venezuelan nationals filed suit at 1:12am on March 15
Judge says the only reason those plaintiffs "got any relief" is because Judge was available for a hearing same day
Judge: "The window of 1am and 7am on a Saturday is sufficient time to challenge government action?"
Justice Dept: Not really. But temporary restraining orders are being filed a lot lately
Judge: "Why wouldn't the prudent thing be to say: 'Let's slow down here.. and see what the judge says?.. It's sure better to be safe than risk violating the order"
Justice Dept: "I don't have knowledge about how decisions were made" about operational details of deportation
There it is:
Judge Boasberg details an "admitted" error in the deportations.
Judge cites by name... a man who was in "the group that you're rushing to get out of the country before a judge can act"
Judge presses Justice Dept about the two hearings he held on night of March 15
Judge: “You had no knowledge whatsoever between 5pm and 6pm that day .. that planes were in the air or would shortly be in the air?”
Justice Dept: We had no knowledge "from our clients"
Justice Dept attorney (Drew Ensign) invokes "attorney-client" privilege when asked about what Ensign was told on night of March 15
Justice Dept attorney acknowledges 8 women were returned to US from those deportation flights to El Salvador last month
Judge: "So .. it was feasible for those planes to bring people back"
Former acting US Atty General James McHenry (who in March -- and now - is deputy associate atty general) was listening to the 5pm March 15th hearing on deportations, per Justice Dept attorney
Judge: "Who else?"
Attorney: "I don't recall"
Judge: "Well... think about it"
US Justice Dept attorney again cites "attorney-client privilege"
Judge Boasberg: Not every communication between an attorney and client is subject to privilege
Judge Boasberg to Justice Dept attorney:
"Who else did you tell about my order?"
Justice Dept: Contacts at DHS and State Dept
Judge: "OK.. who?"
Justice Dept attorney names a couple of DHS officials and a State Dept official whose name he's unsure how to pronounce
Justice Dept attorney says other people in Justice Dept ("the relevant people") were notified about the judge's order on March 15
Judge: "Who then gave the order that the planes should not be turned around?"
Justice Dept attorney: "That's subject to attorney-client privilege"
Judge: "Who made the decision that it was 'perfectly appropriate' to continue with the deportation flights?"
Justice Dept attorney: "I don't know"
Judge Boasberg presses again: "You *really* don't know? I'm interested in finding that out"
** Judge Boasberg** says there are possible future contempt proceedings ..... he wants to get that information
Judge to Justice Dept attorney: "If I don't find your arguments convincing.... how should I determine who" to subject to further scrutiny?
Judge: "If i find there's probable cause for CONTEMPT... then there's a good chance we'll have hearings"
Judge urges Justice Dept attorney to discuss that with his clients
Capacity crowd in the courtroom.
So far.. it's been a 34-minute interrogation of Justice Dept attorney by Judge James Boasberg.
Judge wants to know why sharing details with him in private -- in secured room -- wasn't an option for Justice Dept.
Justice Dept attorney: "That information was included in our reponse"
Judge.. "yeah.. but pretty sketch-ally"
Judge Boasberg calls up the plaintiff's attorney now. Attorney for ACLU
To respond to the Justice Dept arguments today
ACLU (plaintiff's) attorney:
Government didn't provide all the information. "The next step has to be some evidence that is 'sworn'."
He suggests a hearing .. with people under oath
Plaintiff's attorney to judge: "We certainly believe the (judge's) order was violated"
Judge James Boasberg says "he'll review the material" .. and will issue an order to determine if *CONTEMPT* has occured.
Boasberg says he doesn't expect to issue the opinion "before next week"
There's a separate hearing in case TUESDAY at 3pm
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FLASH: Law firm Jenner and Block sues Trump Administration over executive order targeting the firm
They allege order is unlawful and a violation of first amendment
Jenner and Block:
“Order threatens not only Jenner, but also its clients and the legal system itself. Our Constitution, top to bottom, forbids attempts by the government to punish citizens and lawyers based on the clients they represent, the positions they advocate, the opinions they voice, and the people with whom they associate.”
Jenner and Block (more):
“These orders send a clear message to the legal profession: Cease certain representations adverse to the government and renounce the Administration’s critics—or suffer the consequences. The orders also attempt to pressure businesses and individuals to question or even abandon their associations with their chosen counsel,
and to chill bringing legal challenges at all.”
Chief Judge James Boasberg says the Justice Dept was late and evasive with its filing today, answering his questions about last weekend's deportation flight of alleged Venezuelan gang members
New deadlines set... *and* there's a hearing TOMORROW at 230pm
According to Judge Boasberg's order moments ago: The Dept of Justice had an acting ICE field officer argue "I understand that Cabinet Secretaries are currently actively considering whether to invoke the state secrets privilege over the other facts requested by the Court’s order. Doing so is a serious matter that requires careful consideration of national security and foreign relations, and it cannot properly be undertaken in just 24 hours.”
Judge James Boasberg is pretty blunt in his response to today's argument from the Justice Dept:
President Biden issues pre-emptive pardons to "General Mark A. Milley, Anthony S. Fauci, the Members of Congress and staff who served on the Select Committee, and the U.S. Capitol and D.C. Metropolitan police officers who testified before the Select Committee"
(MORE)
President Biden statement: "The issuance of these pardons should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment that any individual engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt for any offense. Our nation owes these public servants a debt of gratitude for their tireless commitment to our country"
President Biden (MORE): "The Select Committee fulfilled this mission with integrity and a commitment to discovering the truth. Rather than accept accountability, those who perpetrated the January 6th attack have taken every opportunity to undermine and intimidate those who participated in the Select Committee in an attempt to rewrite history, erase the stain of January 6th for partisan gain, and seek revenge, including by threatening criminal prosecutions"
Notable excerpts from Special Counsel Jack Smith’s letter to Justice Dept accompanying final report on Trump 2020 election conspiracy case:
“While we were not able to bring the cases we charged to trial, I believe the fact that our team stood up for the rule of law matters. I believe the example our team set for others to fight for justice without regard for the personal costs matters. The facts, as we uncovered them in our investigation and as set forth in my Report, matter. Experienced prosecutors know that you cannot control outcomes, you can only do your job the right way for the right reasons. I conclude our work confident that we have done so, and that we have met fully our obligations to the Department and to our country”
Jack Smith letter (more):
“And to all who know me well, the claim from Mr. Trump that my decisions as a prosecutor were influenced or directed by the Biden administration or other political actors is, in a word, laughable”
Jack Smith letter to Justice Dept (more):
“It is equally important for me to make clear that nobody within the Department of Justice ever sought to interfere with, or improperly influence, my prosecutorial decision making”