Thread by @KarlRadl

Alright the basic problems with 'Schindler's List' as a film are:

A) Oscar Schindler was a Sudeten German who worked as an intelligent agent for the Abwehr in Czechoslovakia from 1936 to 1939 and then in Poland in 1939 not some random failed 'German industrialist' bribing the SS

B) Schindler was awarded the 'Gold Party Badge' by Hitler in 1939 for his service to the Reich in the Abwehr, which normally only pre-1933 NSDAP members were entitled to wear and as far as we know Schindler was a dedicated National Socialist from at least the mid-1930s till 1945

C) Schindler continued his work for the Abwehr into late 1940 as he was sent to Turkey as part of an Abwehr internal oversight team to investigate potential corruption in local Abwehr officers attached to the Embassy there.

D) In the film Schindler is portrayed as primarily living in Poland at the time and purely as a businessman; this is untrue as he actually lived in Ostrava in Moravia but was quartered in Krakow largely working on behalf of the Abwehr.

E) The film portrays Schindler finding Itzhak Stern at the Judenrat in Krakow, but Stern was actually working for Schindler's friend and fellow Abwehr agent Sepp Aue helping Aue run the businesses that Stern had previously been involved with on his own and the Abwehr's behalf.

F) Schindler - like Aue - then acquired a business which he ran in part on the Abwehr's behalf (as potential future cover for agents/sources of illicit funds) which produced enamelware (as in the film) called Rekord Ltd and was actually leased not owned by Schindler.

G) This was mainly because if Schindler ran Rekord Ltd as a trustee then it would have been subject to control by the Goering's Haupttreuhandstelle Ost and would be not have been suitable as an Abwehr front and Goering would have been able to cream profits off of it.

H) Schindler then renamed Rekort Ltd as 'Deutsche Emailwarenfabrik Ltd' (as in the film) but contrary to the film the staff at the beginning were not jews - Schindler used seven jews to help him manage it - but in fact nearly all the workers (c. 250) were Poles.

I) Schindler only began to employ jews not only because jews were cheaper than Poles and also because - contrary to the film - a lot of Poles had begun to volunteer or were conscripted for the German war effort against the Soviet Union as time went on.

J) Contrary to the film Schindler got his military contract not through 'bribing the SS' but rather through his Abwehr contacts within the German government and his bribes to local German government officials - rarely SS - were done via the jewish businessman Abraham Bankier.

L) Schindler expanded his factory to include various amenities for his workforce - who were only over roughly half jewish (again not what the film suggests) - such as a medical clinic, co-op and dining room for all workers. Similar to the facilities later offered in Auschwitz.

M) When in March 1943 the Krakow Ghetto was liquidated by the SS; Schindler's jews were relocated to Płaszow concentration camp which was only 2.5 miles from Schindler's factory and contrary to what the film implies; jews continued to benefit from the factory's extra amenities.

N) As part of this - again contrary to the film - Goth wanted Schindler to relocate his factory inside Plaszow but Schindler prevailed upon Goth to allow him to create a sub-camp of Plaszow next to his DEF factory instead.

O) In massive contradiction to the film Amon Goth was only commandant of Plaszow for around two years and was replaced in September 1944 by Arnold Buscher who then ran the camp till January 1945; while the film makes out Goth was commandant till the end.

Part of the reason for this is because while there are a lot of atrocities and murders attributed to Plaszow under Goth; all of a sudden these claims almost entirely stop when Buscher takes charge of the camp.

It is also helpful to note that the claims about Goth are almost entirely post-war and not backed up by actual documentation, but what we do have completely undermines the conventional 'Holocaust' narrative and directly contradicts 'Schindler's List'.

This is because the SS Concentration Camp Organization explicitly relieved Goth of command of Plaszow BECAUSE he was stealing jewish and SS property, not sufficiently feeding his jewish inmates (probably also relates to the theft), bad treatment of inmates and

allowing inmates and unauthorized persons (largely NCOs) within the camp system access to administrative (and presumably secret) SS documents.

The SS had Goth scheduled to appear before SS Judge Konrad Morgen on these charges in early 1945 but due to the war situation

and Goth's diagnosis with a mental illness; Goth was instead locked up in a lunatic asylum near the SS Officer Training School in Bad Tolz where he was freed at the end of the war and subsequently arrested by the US army and sent to Dachau before being extradited to Poland.

P) But what of Goth's many alleged atrocities and murders as shown so famously in 'Schindler's List'?

Well first the famously 'Balcony Scene' is based on the testimony of a 'Holocaust Survivor' but is actually impossible because the layout and terrain blocked any shots from it.

Secondly Goth and the camp guards - a mix of German and Ukrainian (as shown in the film) - were not permitted to execute any inmates without direct authorization from the Reichsfuhrer SS and Goth couldn't even use corporal punishment without central authorization!

See Mattogno:

This obviously completely contradicts the wanton and sadistic violence of the film, but given the SS removed Goth in September 1944; it is clear that Goth had violated these strict rules but also that the SS - completely contrary to the film - took action to protect the inmates.

What this probably means that the reason Goth allegedly had a 'sadistic reputation' was not that Goth was going around murdering jewish and non-jewish inmates out of hand - Plaszow was contrary to the film a mixed jew/non-jew camp -

but rather illegally inflicting corporal punishment on inmates and stealing from them (and the SS) which in tune led to the SS Concentration Camp Administration going after Goth - like they also did at nearby Auschwitz in 1944 - for abuses in the wake of the Posen Speech.

Why mention Himmler's famous Posen Speech of October 1943 when it is claimed he was advocating for the 'extermination' of the jews?

Well if you bother to read the text Himmler is also mentions that some SS men and German officials are corrupt and is announcing a large crackdown

This is at the root of Goth's removal from Plaszow since the SS began auditing what was going on in the camps; realised that Goth was corrupt, exceeding his authority by ordering corporal punishments and endangering State Secrets by allow inmates access to the documentation.

Q) Part of the problem at Plaszow was that it was heavily impacted by typhus - as were nearly all other camps due to the short-sighted ghettoization policies of 1939-42 - with significant loss of life which was exacerbated by Goth stealing food from the jewish/non-jewish inmates

R) This problem didn't impact Schindler's sub-camp next to his DEF factory 2.5 miles down the road as much which was helped because he wasn't stealing food from the inmates for profit (unlike Goth) and because he had long had an established medical clinic on-site from 1940/41.

S) In July 1944 as Operation Bagration was beginning to route the Wehrmacht in the East and Operation Overlord hit in the West; Speer made the decision to switch all non-essential industrial production to producing military hardware and as part of this

the SS Concentration Camp Administration decided to close down Plaszow - whose main function was as a stone quarry (again contrary to the film) - among and concentrate all the inmate labourers in the concentrated war production camps (such as Stutthof)

And Plaszow's nearest big concentration camp was Auschwitz; hence why the Germans began to ship out all the labourers from Plaszow to Auschwitz. Not to gas them as the film explicitly claims, but rather to distribute them as effectively as possible to maximize war production.

Contrary to the film Schindler never demonstrated he had any wartime knowledge of any 'mass gassings' - which he should have known about if they were real - and instead intervened to 'save his jews' not because he wanted to 'protect them' but rather because

He wanted to keep his factory open - the film correctly adduces that Schindler lived a very expensive and high life using the profits from DEF - and as around half of his now experienced but also very cheap employees were jewish; he needed to keep the factory going to support

his lifestyle - which was dependent on paying increasing astronomical prices for luxuries on the black market which he primarily accessed through his senior jewish employees like Stern and Blankier - and which would be impossible if the SS took half of his workforce to Auschwitz

So Schindler concocted and succeeded in a plan - again probably using his Abwehr contacts as well as those he now had within the SS - to convince the SS to allow him to move his factory to Brunnlitz in the Sudetenland and produce anti-shells/grenades for the German war effort.

As it happens Schindler was unable to keep all his workforce because the need was so great and situation so dire so he lost 300 female jews to Auschwitz who were then re-deployed to work there not 'gassed'.

Now contrary to the film; Schindler desperately tried to make suitable anti-tank shells/grenades for the German army but his jewish/non-jewish workers were not skilled in this but rather in making enamelled cookware; so very few shells/grenades he produced made the grade.

Thus the film is completely incorrect in claiming that Schindler was 'spending all his money to save the jews' (this is Schindler's post-war narrative) and just making crap anti-tank shells/grenades and thus Schindler never sold any to the German army so all but went bankrupt.

T) Where does the post-war Schindler narrative come from?

Well largely from Schindler himself (thus it is designed to make him look like 'the good guy') but also his 'Holocaust Survivor' 'Schindlerjuden' mistook their fortunate position unintentionally caused by Schindler

As being the basis for their having been 'saved by Schindler' when in truth Schindler didn't 'save his jews' at all but rather because they were isolated from the main camp at Plaszow and also didn't get sent to Auschwitz they managed to maintain relatively healthy conditions.

Schindler - always the consummate salesman - managed to successfully re-write his largely selfish wartime activities on behalf of the Third Reich as being his 'resistance against the Third Reich' and have himself seen as 'Righteous among the Nations' not a 'War Criminal'.

Thus we can see that 'Schindler's List' is not only nonsense but that the truth about Oscar Schindler demonstrates how absolutely ridiculous and counter-factual the 'Holocaust' narrative truly is.