For the first time, Trump spoke out after Musk blasted the Big Beautiful Bill.
But here’s the twist—Musk was watching live and firing back in real time on X.
What happened next was painful to watch.
Trump said, “Look, Elon and I had a great relationship. I don’t know if we will anymore.”
Then Trump posted on Truth Social—and that’s when the gloves really came off.
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It came out of nowhere, but it hit like a category five hurricane.
President Trump was hosting German Chancellor Friedrich Merz when a reporter asked a question that immediately changed the energy in the room:
“What’s your reaction to Elon Musk’s criticism of the Big Beautiful Bill?”
The mood shifted.
Trump didn’t hesitate.
It was the beginning of what sounded like a very public political divorce.
“I’ve always liked Elon,” Trump said.
“So I was very surprised… He hasn’t said anything about me that’s bad.”
Trump had stayed quiet for a while, but now, cornered with cameras rolling, he was ready to speak.
“I’d rather have him criticize me than the bill,” Trump continued, praising the legislation as “incredible” and “the biggest cut in the history of our country… about $1.6 trillion.”
Then came the pivot—and the reason for the rift, according to Trump.
“Elon’s upset because we took the EV mandate,” he explained.
“That was a lot of money for electric vehicles.”
The way Trump described it, Musk’s problem wasn’t ideological—it was financial.
“They want us to pay billions of dollars in subsidy. And Elon knew this from the beginning. He knew it a long time ago. That hasn’t changed.”
Musk responded to this immediately:
“Whatever.”
“Keep the EV/solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil & gas subsidies are touched (very unfair!!), but ditch the MOUNTAIN of DISGUSTING PORK in the bill.”
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But the electric vehicle subsidies weren’t the only flashpoint.
Trump pointed to another moment of quiet friction.
He said Musk had personally pushed for Jared Isaacman to be nominated as NASA administrator. Trump turned him down.
“He recommended somebody that he, I guess, knew very well. I’m sure he respected him,” Trump said. “But I didn’t think it was appropriate.”
Why? “He happened to be a Democrat. Like, totally Democrat.”
Then Trump drew the political line.
“We won,” he said.
“We get certain privileges. And one of the privileges is we don’t have to appoint a Democrat.”
He reiterated that NASA would remain in capable hands.
“General Cain is going to be picking somebody.”
But the implication was clear: Musk had tried to insert his own pick into a key government role—and when he didn’t get his way, the relationship began to fracture.
“He wanted that person. And we said no,” Trump said.
“And I can understand why he’s upset.”
Then came a striking moment of reflection.
“Remember, he was here for a long time. You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the Oval Desk.”
That’s when Trump crossed a line you don’t cross unless something’s truly over, and he dropped a line that made it clear.
He started using the past tense.
“Look, Elon and I had a great relationship,” he said.
“I don’t know if we will anymore.”
It was unmistakable.
The phrasing, the delivery—it sounded like someone processing a falling-out in real time.
Trump recalled better days: public events, warm praise, and headlines they once created together.
“I was surprised—because you were here,” he told the room. “Everybody in this room, practically, was here as we had a wonderful sendoff.”
“He said wonderful things about me. You couldn’t have said nicer—said the best things.”
“He’s worn the hat, ‘Trump Was Right About Everything.’”
Then Trump added with a tone of wounded pride: “And I am right about the great, big beautiful bill.”
As the comments continued, the emotion started bleeding through.
Trump reminded everyone just how closely tied Musk had been to his movement.
“Elon endorsed me very strongly,” he said. “He actually went up and campaigned for me.”
But even in that, Trump made something else crystal clear: he believed he didn’t need Musk to win.
“I think I would have won,” he said.
“Susie would say I would have won Pennsylvania easily anyway.”
“Even if the governor ran—the real governor, not the governor from Minnesota… He’s a sick puppy, that guy.”
Then he doubled down: “If they picked him, I would have won Pennsylvania. I won it by a lot.”
Trump was saying that Musk’s support was appreciated—but not essential.
And that made the fallout easier to frame.
“I’m very disappointed,” he said.
“Because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here. Better than you people. He knew everything about it.”
He circled back to the heart of the disagreement: the subsidies.
“He had no problem with it. All of a sudden he had a problem—when he found out we’re going to have to cut the EV mandate. That’s billions and billions of dollars. And it really is unfair. We want to have cars of all types.”
But Musk was ready and waiting.
He weighed in on the president’s claim about Pennsylvania, and he took it one step further.
Musk said:
“Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.”
He added:
“Such ingratitude”
And then Musk called out Trump’s claim that he knew the inner workings of the Big Beautiful Bill.
“False, this bill was never shown to me even once and was passed in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read it!”
Back in the Oval Office, the mood darkened again as Trump made a quiet prediction.
“He hasn’t said bad about me personally,” he said.
“But I’m sure that’ll be next.”
There was no mistaking it now. This was a full-blown breakup.
“I’m very disappointed in Elon. I’ve helped Elon a lot,” Trump said, his voice tightening.
A reporter jumped in, asking the obvious: Had Musk brought any of these concerns to him in private before blasting them in public?
Trump didn’t dodge.
“No,” he said flatly. “He worked hard and he did a good job.”
Then came a flash of emotional insight—a glimpse into how Trump sees these departures.
“I think he misses the place,” he said. “
He got out there, and all of a sudden he wasn’t in this beautiful Oval Office.”
“And he was,” Trump added.
“And he’s got nice offices too. But there’s something about this one.”
As the dust settled, Trump zoomed out.
And what he said next felt like the conclusion to a pattern.
“He’s not the first,” he said.
“People leave my administration and they love us. And then at some point, they miss it so badly.”
“Some of them embrace it. And some of them actually become hostile. I don’t know what it is.”
Then, with a knowing smirk: “It’s sort of Trump Derangement Syndrome, I guess they call it.”
It wasn’t just Musk anymore.
Trump was describing a cycle—an emotional shift he believes happens to those who leave his orbit.
“They leave and they wake up in the morning—and the glamor is gone. The whole world is different. And they become hostile. I don’t know what it is.”
And then, he ended with: “Someday you’ll write a book about it and you’ll let us know.”
But after the Oval Office meeting was finished, the real fireworks started.
President Trump took to Truth social and launched an all-out assault on Musk:
“Elon was “wearing thin,” I asked him to leave, I took away his EV Mandate that forced everyone to buy Electric Cars that nobody else wanted (that he knew for months I was going to do!), and he just went CRAZY!”
Trump followed up with:
“The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn’t do it!”
That’s when Elon Musk blew up the internet with this response:
“Time to drop the really big bomb: @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That’s the real reason they haven’t been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!”
@realDonaldTrump Elon added, “Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out.”
SUMMARY
1.) Trump confirmed the breakup and used the past tense to describe their relationship.
• He said, “Elon and I had a great relationship. I don’t know if we will anymore,” signaling a clear end to their alliance.
2.) Trump accused Musk of being upset over losing billions in EV subsidies.
• He claimed Musk’s criticism of the Big Beautiful Bill was financially motivated—not ideological.
3.) Musk immediately fired back on X and called Trump’s claims false.
• He said he was never shown the bill, called Trump ungrateful, and defended the EV/solar incentives while blasting the “disgusting pork.”
4.) Trump revealed Musk tried to get Democrat Jared Isaacman nominated to lead NASA.
5.) Trump added he didn’t need Musk to win and would’ve taken Pennsylvania without him.
• In response, Musk claimed that without his backing, Trump would have lost the election, and Democrats would control Congress.
6.) Trump took off the gloves and posted on Truth Social:
• He said, “Elon was ‘wearing thin,’ I asked him to leave, I took away his EV Mandate that forced everyone to buy Electric Cars that nobody else wanted (that he knew for months I was going to do!), and he just went CRAZY!”
7.) That’s when Elon blew everything up.
• He responded, “Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That’s the real reason they haven’t been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!”
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“In light of the President’s statement about cancellation of my government contracts, @SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately.”
This announcement followed President Trump’s earlier threat to terminate federal subsidies and contracts with Musk’s companies, including SpaceX and Tesla.
UPDATE #2: Elon quote-tweets a post linking Trump to Jeffrey Epstein with a raised eyebrow emoji.
The post claims Trump flew on Epstein’s plane at least 7 times, though there’s no proof he visited the island.
It also highlights a 2002 New York Magazine quote where Trump described Epstein as “a terrific guy” who “likes beautiful women… on the younger side.”
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UPDATE #3: Trump responds to Elon publicly attacking him, saying:
“I don’t mind Elon turning against me, but he should have done so months ago. This is one of the Greatest Bills ever presented to Congress. It’s a Record Cut in Expenses—$1.6 Trillion Dollars—and the Biggest Tax Cut ever given. If this Bill doesn’t pass, there will be a 68% Tax Increase, and things far worse than that. I didn’t create this mess—I’m just here to FIX IT. This puts our Country on a Path of Greatness. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
@realDonaldTrump @SpaceX UPDATE #4: At 4:43 PM Eastern, Elon Musk drops another raised eyebrow emoji—this time on a post by @chesschick01 that reads:
“In 1992 Trump partied with Jeffrey Epstein. Just gonna leave this here:”
@realDonaldTrump @SpaceX @Chesschick01 UPDATE #5: Elon Musk replies “Yes” to a post by @stillgray that reads:
“President vs Elon. Who wins? My money’s on Elon.
Trump should be impeached and JD Vance should replace him.”
UPDATE #6: Nicole Shanahan agrees with Musk on the need for a “new political party” that “actually represents the 80% in the middle.”
She responded to Musk’s post, saying, “Yes. I’m so sick and tired of the bait and switch BS. America is not a piggy bank that you can keep smashing open and expect it to function.”
UPDATE #7: Jesse Watters says Elon Musk doesn’t actually know if Trump is in the Epstein files.
“No one knows what the list is. He didn’t know.”
Watters added the Trump–Musk feud is like a roommate squabble.
“These guys are like roommates. They were living in close quarters for, like, the first six months of the year. They’re just blowing off steam. The issue is donor maintenance. This guy’s the mega donor. So? So you don’t want him accusing you of being a pedophile, and you don’t want him calling for your impeachment.”
Still, Watters tried to strike a hopeful note.
“I hope he [Musk] doesn’t mean that [Trump’s impeachment], but maybe they can patch things up. I mean, Vance called Trump Hitler, and he’s on the ticket.”
UPDATE #8: Elon Musk appears to be relenting—at least partially.
He just reposted a message that urges compromise and reads:
“Elon’s stance is principled. Trump’s stance is practical. Tech needs Republicans for the present. Republicans need Tech for the future. Drop the tax cuts, cut some pork, get the bill through.”
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In other news, Chris Cuomo has a bombshell theory on why Trump is silent after the Epstein accusation.
If he’s right, this feud could explode into something much bigger.
Google why we no longer see crippled kids from polio. You’ll get one answer: vaccines.
But Dr. Suzanne Humphries says that’s not what the facts show—and when you dig into the history, the real story is jaw-dropping.
First off, polio never actually disappeared. “Polio is still here. Polio is still alive and well,” Humphries says.
What changed? The definition. Once the vaccine was introduced, the medical establishment redefined what counted as “polio.”
Humphries explains: “Polio is called different things today. Whereas back in the 1940s, 1950s, the criteria for diagnosing polio were completely different to the year that the vaccine was introduced. The playing field, the goalposts—everything was changed… they were able to show a complete cascading drop of paralytic polio simply because of the way they changed the definitions of what polio is and what could cause it.”
Suddenly, cases that would’ve been labeled polio were now called Guillain-Barré syndrome, coxsackievirus, echovirus—or simply chalked up to heavy metal poisoning. “They didn’t have virus, or they had coxsackievirus or echovirus, or they were lead poisoned or mercury poisoned, which was—the mercury and lead were the leading treatments of the day,” she said.
But it gets worse.
The rise of polio, she says, directly mirrored the use of toxic pesticides like DDT. “The tonnage of production of DDT absolutely mirrored the diagnosis for polio.” And even today, “the countries that still make DDT today is where we’re still seeing this paralytic polio situation happen.”
So what about the virus?
Polio virus, according to Humphries, is what’s known as a commensal—a normal virus that lives in most people without causing problems. In fact, “95 to 99% of all polio is asymptomatic.” She described a study of the Javante Indians where “98 to 99% of every person they tested… had evidence of immunity to all three strains of polio.”
When asked where all the paralyzed children were, she recalled: “They were like, ‘We don’t have any of that problem.’”
Humphries also points to a 1916 Rockefeller lab in Manhattan that, in her words, had “the specific stated goal… to try to create the most pathological, neuropathological strain of polio possible.” By injecting monkey brains and human spinal serum into monkeys, “there was a big problem with that, which was released into the public by accident. And the world experienced the worst polio epidemic on record. 25% mortality.”
Bottom line? According to Dr. Humphries, polio didn’t disappear because of vaccines. It disappeared behind a curtain of redefinitions, misdiagnoses, manmade disasters—and a whole lot of propaganda.
And if they went that far to deceive you about the polio vaccine, what else are they lying about? 🧵
Did you know the original smallpox vaccine caused serious injuries—and was often contaminated with pus, bacteria, and fungus?
We’ve been told it saved humanity from a deadly disease, but what if that’s a lie?
Dr. Suzanne Humphries explained to Joe Rogan what happened to children who received the vaccine. They developed large ulcers, high fevers, and widespread infections. With no antibiotics available, treatments were limited to mercury, arsenic, bloodletting, or isolation in dark rooms.
These severe reactions weren’t considered rare. In fact, they were referred to as “a good take.”
What made matters worse was how the vaccine was produced. According to Dr. Humphries, it was made by infecting animals and harvesting the resulting pus.
“They would take pus from other animals, scratch it into the belly of a cow, then take the pus off of the big pimples that would form,” she said. The material—called “pure lymph”—often came from cadavers, horses, or ulcerating cow udders, mixed with glycerin, and scratched into the surface of the skin.
Even decades later, contamination was an issue. “There was more bacteria and fungus in the smallpox vaccines than there was smallpox virus.” One widely used version, Dryvax, was eventually considered so problematic that health authorities ordered all remaining specimens destroyed around 2009.
Living conditions at the time were “a disaster.” Streets were filled with human and animal waste, there was no running water, and sanitation was nearly nonexistent. Poor hygiene and co-infections absolutely made smallpox far more deadly than it might have been otherwise.
Despite all this, the smallpox vaccine is still presented as a flawless triumph.
But for those who experienced the injuries firsthand, and for those who study its full history, the story isn’t so simple.
“This is the one vaccine that eliminated, eradicated a disease,” Dr. Humphries said sarcastically. “Can you believe that fairytale?”
We’ve all been taught that the smallpox vaccine was one of medicine’s greatest triumphs.
But when you read the actual clinical observations recorded by doctors who lived through its rollout, a far more unsettling picture emerges.
It’s not propaganda, and it’s not hindsight. It’s primary-source medicine.
There’s a reason doctors love pushing vaccines. The more they inject, the more money they make.
The foot traffic alone brings in big money, but there’s another perverse incentive, and once you hear it, it will make you angry.
RFK Jr. explains: “Pediatricians who vaccinate 80-85% of the kids in their office, get these giant bonuses... And that's why they throw you out of the office if you fight back…You'll lose them their bonuses.”
Sadly, these perverse financial incentives aren’t limited to vaccines but across many areas of medicine.
Dig a little deeper, and another disturbing pattern appears. Once you see it, you’re left gobsmacked by just how far the corruption runs beyond money. 🧵
The video below is haunting—not because the doctor in it is malicious, but because she genuinely believes she’s helping.
She’s an MD with a Master’s in Public Health, a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics, and a former leader at Georgetown. Her language is warm. Her intentions seem pure.
Yet this interview perfectly captures how public health has lost its way.
After conquering most deadly contagious diseases, it turned toward chronic illness—and failed.
Instead of questioning why children are getting sicker, it doubled down on vaccinating more, earlier, and without dissent, often dismissing safety concerns as heresy.
Watch this video. Then ask yourself what matters more in modern medicine: children’s outcomes—or institutional certainty.
A lawsuit filed several years ago exposed something far more disturbing than a single act of medical misconduct.
It revealed how, during COVID, core medical ethics quietly collapsed—how consent became optional, coercion was reframed as care, and vulnerable people were treated as obstacles rather than patients.
This isn’t about ideology. It’s about what happens when fear, authority, and institutional pressure override conscience.
The real cause of heart disease has been buried for decades in favor of the lie about cholesterol.
40 million Americans take statins to lower their cholesterol, thinking it’s the best way to protect their hearts.
But what doctors never tell them is that statins interfere with the body’s natural repair system, weakening the very cells that rely on cholesterol to function.
In trying to prevent disease, they’re paradoxically fueling it.
This report exposes what really happens to the body when you take a statin every day.
For years, doctors have been taught that high cholesterol causes heart attacks. They’ve passed the warning along to their patients, and most of us have believed them.
But that idea came from one man: Ancel Keys.
Keys cherry-picked data to make fat and cholesterol look deadly while ignoring the real culprit: sugar.
John Yudkin tried to warn the world that sugar—not fat—was driving heart disease. But no one listened. He was ridiculed, silenced, and erased from history.
In 2015, Scott Adams made a “crazy” prediction that most people thought was impossible.
He said Trump had a 98% chance of becoming president, and he made that call on a single observation.
The winning attribute that made Scott confident in Trump’s victory was his one-of-a-kind persuasion skills.
While political betting markets dismissed Trump’s chances, Adams argued—using his background in persuasion and hypnosis—that Trump was the most psychologically effective candidate in the race and therefore favored to win.
He built a massive following by showing how persuasion, not policy, drives political outcomes.
That insight proved correct. But it also revealed something darker. 🧵
After Trump’s victory, Adams pivoted to punditry—and during COVID, even he struggled to see the truth.
Scott strongly endorsed the vaccines, vaccinated himself, and publicly belittled followers who refused. Many later derisively called him “Clot Adams.”
In January 2023, Adams admitted—on video—that he’d been wrong and that the anti-vaxxers were correct. But he framed it as luck: the right people just happened to distrust the government, while “all the data” supposedly pointed intelligent analysts toward vaccination.
That framing matters. It reveals how even skilled observers of persuasion can mistake marketing consensus for truth—and how the same system that manufactures medical certainty also hides the limits of medicine, until reality forces a reckoning.
Last May, Scott told the world something most people never say out loud until it’s unavoidable: he had terminal, metastatic prostate cancer.
He openly stated he planned to use California’s medically assisted dying to reduce suffering.
He also shut down speculation—saying he had already tried fenbendazole and ivermectin and had no interest in continuing them.
The reaction was explosive.
People weren’t just debating treatment choices—they were watching, in real time, what a protracted, modern death actually looks like.
For many, it shattered comforting abstractions about both cancer and mortality.
He was the only mainstream journalist who dared to investigate Pizzagate.
They mocked him. Smeared him. Erased him from corporate media.
Now, the Epstein Files are out—and every horrifying detail is falling into place.
@BenSwann_ was right all along.
Today, he joins @zeeemedia to connect the dots between Epstein and Pizzagate—and expose how the media helped cover it all up. 🧵
At first, @BenSwann_ brushed off the Pizzagate story as too outrageous to take seriously.
Claims about Hillary Clinton eating children in a pizza shop basement didn’t just sound insane—they sounded like intentional disinformation. But when the story hit national headlines and a man stormed a pizza parlor with a rifle, Swann decided to investigate.
What he uncovered changed everything.
He traced the story back to a trove of leaked emails from John Podesta—real messages published by WikiLeaks. That’s when the pattern began to emerge. The repeated use of odd terms like “pizza,” “hot dog,” and “cheese pizza” matched code words the FBI had previously flagged as part of known (the P word) communication.
The most shocking part? Swann said it wasn’t journalists or watchdogs who picked up on it first—but self-proclaimed (the P word)s on 4chan. They were the ones asking, “Does anyone else see this? These are the same words we use.”
“There’s no evidence that John Podesta is a (the P word)” Swann clarified. But what disturbed him most was the lack of any investigation at all.
“The problem… wasn’t that I found something huge. I didn’t. I just said it on TV. And because I did, the backlash was huge.”
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