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DAY 6 OF COOMER VS LINDELL
Back in court this morning for the start of week two. We expect Lindell, Howse, & Montgomery testimony today.

Reminder that all updates are my personal summaries from my notes, posted on delay per the court’s order. Pls tag or DM for corrections.

Coomer Attorney: And Fanning connected you to Dennis Montgomery. Explain how this came about.

Lindell: After the deviations, things didn’t make sense (example in Nevada), then I watched Kill Chain with Halderman and Hursti. The film explained the machine issues — it was all democrats — Amy Klobuchar was there. On January 7, the DNI came out with a report about China impacting the election. (Ratcliff minority report: context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/def….)

Coomer Attorney: Fanning connected you to Dennis Montgomery? And you’ve never met Ms. Fanning even to today, right?

Lindell: That’s correct, Brannon Howse told me I had to hear her info and connect with her.

Coomer Attorney: You filmed absolute proof and Mary Fanning produced it?

Lindell: Yes, Brannon Howse and Mary Fanning produced it and I financed it.

Coomer Attorney: did you see the clip of Dr. Coomer in that film?

Lindell: I saw it for the first time here in court.

Coomer Attorney: That was my question. You didn’t watch your own movie?

Lindell: I just missed that little part, I did watch my own movie, sir.

Coomer Attorney: I’m going to defer to Dr. Halderman about Dennis Montgomery’s Hammer and Scorecard and packet captures. But I want to make clear that at the time you decided to make put this on at the cyber symposium.

Lindell: No, I made that decision in July.

Coomer Attorney: And you made that decision, right?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: As part of your promotion for the Cyber Symposium, you did events with entities like CNN?

Lindell: Yes, anyone that would have me on. I was open to go any show.

Coomer Attorney: In that piece, they addressed your claims directly?

Lindell: No, that’s what was strange. I never said his name. CNN offered Dennis Montgomery’s name which was weird because I never said it —

Coomer Attorney: please listen to my question —

The Court: Counsel can you approach please.

SIDE BAR.

Coomer Attorney: You did an interview with CNN a few days before the Cyber Symposium.

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: offer clip of CNN, no objection. Playing clip.

In the clip, Mike says he has the proof, packet captures, that China hacked the election. CNN’s piece is mostly a fact check. Asking about PCAP excerpts that Lindell sent to CNN. Their experts say it’s proof of nothing. Full news report is playing off CNN.

Coomer Attorney: Did you watch this entire piece?

Lindell: Yes, I lived it.

Coomer Attorney: Do you heard this before the cyber symposium?

Lindell: Yes

Lindell Attorney: Your honor may we approach. SIDE BAR

Coomer Attorney: Do you recall from the interview where the man said “if you’re wrong, that’s very dangerous”?

Lindell: Yes, but you didn’t say the second part.

Coomer Attorney: Yes, I know you think you’re right. (New exhibit now). Do you remember receiving this from Jerry Johnson?

Lindell: I don’t remember that it came from Jerry Johnson. I’m seeing it right now. I remember when this came in.

Coomer Attorney: You’re not denying that you received this?

Lindell: no

Coomer Attorney: (to jury) From Jerry Johnson, Aug 2021, letter from Mike Zullo to Sheriff Arpaio, warning about Dennis Montgomery. (To Lindell) — subject is “Infiltration of Mike Lindell, existential threat to President Trump”

Lindell: Yes. Zullo name had come up before, we had gotten warnings about him.

Coomer Attorney: Summarized letter — says that Montgomery et al were infiltrating to bring the Montgomery stuff in to discredit real investigations and hurt President Trump, and that Montgomery is a con man. Offered opportunity to learn more info. You had this letter before the cyber symposium?

Lindell: Yes. I had several people send me stuff about Dennis Montgomery, and Kurt Olsen said “wow they are really concerned about Dennis Montgomery.” We had lots of these.

Coomer Attorney: So you took this to mean that it these letters and warnings were an attempt to discredit Montgomery?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: Why would a conservative sheriff want to discredit Montgomery and stop you from sharing his data if he was legit?

Lindell: They didn’t know I had Dennis Montgomery’s info — that’s why it was weird. My wife got a call telling her to back of Montgomery. Weird that they don’t want the information out. It was under government secret order.

Coomer Attorney: object as non-responsive.

The Court: Counsel approach. SIDE BAR

The Court: Jury will strike that last answer. Mr. Lindell, please listen to the question and answer the question. Your attorney will be allowed to cross examine you.

Coomer Attorney: Reading from the Zullo letter. Im interested in the counter narrative. Did any experts advise you prior to the symposium that Montgomery’s PCAP data was a hoax?

Lindell: No.

Coomer Attorney: You knew Mr. Oltmann at this time?

Lindell: No. I did not. I might have heard his voice on a podcast, but I hadn’t met him and didn’t know he was coming to the symposium.

Coomer Attorney: Are you contending that the PCAP data that was to be presented at the cyber symposium is still evidence of election fraud?

Lindell: Two hard drives were taken and given to Harri Hursti, I didn’t know that before this trial. But if the question is do I believe Montgomery’s data is real, absolutely.

Coomer Attorney: You still believe that Mr. Coomer is a criminal?

Lindell: I believe that what you did to me and my pillow is criminal, and I stand by it.

Coomer Attorney: Do you remember attending a meeting in June on Montgomery’s data?

Lindell: No, my investigations were way before that.

Coomer Attorney: Have you Googled Dennis Montgomery?

Lindell: Oh yeah, they’ve got bad stuff about him.

Coomer Attorney: It sounds like no matter what you’re presented with, you’re going to believe Montgomery?

Lindell: No — goes through a number of data points that i didn’t capture — lands on Halderman and how he does trust Halderman because he was one of the first experts he saw in Kill chain, and he hacked a voting machine with a pen.

Objection from Coomer as nonresponsive. Overruled.

Coomer Attorney: Back to the Zullo letter, info and data in the letter was sent to Kurt Olsen. Was Mr. Olsen your attorney on Aug 2, 2021?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: letter says you were given the disputed evidence but didn’t excise the Dennis Montgomery data from your analysis. But you say you didn’t see it?

Lindell: I never saw any of it.

Coomer Attorney: Getting into Dr. Franks analysis — In the same Zullo letter — Dr franks marry faulty data with legitimate data to arrive at false conclusions. This sounds like what Harri Hursti was saying, right?

Lindell: we don’t know what Hursti saw. We don’t know what was on those drives that Josh Merritt gave him after he went rogue. We had drives stolen and we have no idea what was on them.

Object as non responsive. Sustained.

Coomer Attorney: Did anyone on your team try to convince you to postpone the symposium?

Lindell: No.

Coomer Attorney: Anyone not on your team try to get you to postpone?

Lindell: No.

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We’re back. Mike Lindell is still on the stand.

Coomer Attorney: You had the PCAP data vetted for months before symposium?

Lindell: Yes, for 6 months and then other people will the three weeks before

Coomer Attorney: but at the symposium you didn’t have PCAP data right?

Lindell: We had some not all.

Coomer Attorney: and you told Mary Fanning you needed to stall.

Lindell: I need to see it.

Coomer Attorney: Produces exhibit — text messages between Lindell and Fanning.

Lindell: Where are the timestamps, when is this, I don’t remember these texts.

Coomer Attorney: we can tell what it is by the content

Lindell: I absolutely don’t remember this.

Coomer Attorney: “this josh guy” refers to Josh Merritt

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: “They attacked me and conan” — you’re referring to Josh Merritt correct?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: “Dennis didn’t give us any data to show here” refers to Dennis Montgomery, correct?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: And he didn’t give you any data?

Lindell: That’s not true, we had hard drives and data

Coomer Attorney: And you went to ASOG?

Lindell: Yes. That’s where I first met Josh Merritt.

Coomer Attorney: and you flew with members of that team.

Lindell: Yes, and that’s where Josh Merritt told me he reviewed Montgomery’s data and it was 100% correct.

Back and forth on PCAP vs Hex data.

Coomer Attorney: And you said in this text to Mary Fanning, “Conan and I are stalling.” You didn’t have any PCAP data, right?

Lindell: We had partial data.

Back and forth discussion about talent and revenue sharing between Lindell companies.

Coomer Attorney: This is Mary Fanning. There is no PCAPs. This is actual files from the election. He told me standard Internet identifiers will be shown that will provide a small snapshot in time. Watching these snapshots is like watching a movie — stopping there, that’s what you said too, it’s like watching a movie?

Lindell: Yes that’s what it says.

Coomer Attorney: and you said you felt like you were in the twilight zone, right? You were, as the kids say, freaking out.

Lindell: Can I explain? I kept asking Conan if he could pull the data out.

Coomer Attorney: but you had 6 months to vet this data?

Lindell: Yeah but we had to get it and bring it to Texas because of the Cyber Act of 2015.

Coomer Attorney: This is what the colonels and attorneys told you?

Lindell: Yes. That’s how they said we had to do it.

References to Mike buying Dennis Montgomery (two?) houses. One for over $2M and the other for over $1M.

Coomer Attorney: and then in a breakout room, you said someone said Dennis Montgomery had a stroke?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: so you didn’t have any PCAP data?

Lindell: Josh Merritt gave Harri Hursti hard drives that weren’t our data. It might not even have been our data

Coomer Attorney: the same Josh Merritt that said the PCAPs weren’t real?

Lindell: But he told me that they were real in Texas. He spent 15mins on a chalk board explaining it. And then we had problems with him because he went to a newspaper.

Coomer Attorney: And then you said “we are in trouble because we don’t have data”

Lindell: Where do you see that? (Attorney orients him to excerpt)

Coomer Attorney: was Conan Hayes on your payroll at that time?

Lindell: Yes, several members of the red team were.

Coomer Attorney: did you have plans to put any speaker on the stage?

Lindell: No.

Coomer Attorney: so how did Tina Peters get on stage?

Lindell: I have no idea. I never heard of her or spoke to her before.

Coomer Attorney: you didn’t text with her?

Lindell: I don’t believe so.

Coomer Attorney: (new exhibit) This is a text stream Mr. Lindell. Is that your phone number? This begins August 9, 2021. This was produced by you?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: offers exhibit

Objection! Overruled

Exhibit is from Ty Clevenger texting Mike introducing him to Tina Peters and that Tina can confirm that the image data from Ron Watkins came from Dominion machines.

Coomer Attorney: so you knew her before the symposium?

Lindell: I had no idea who any of these people were, I didn’t put them in my phone, I don’t remember seeing this.

Coomer Attorney: That’s the data that Tina was bringing to your symposium?

Lindell: I didn’t know she was bringing data. I didn’t know who Ron Watkins was. I was interviewing with CNN when I looked down and saw that data being presented. I had no idea

Coomer Attorney: so you weren’t in control of Mike Lindell’s cyber symposium?

Lindell: I didn’t have anything to do with that. Kurt Olsen and other people were responsible for running that and it changed when I lost my voice.

Coomer Attorney: so that’s another thing you’re not taking responsibility for?

Lindell: Well that’s your opinion. Begins to tell a narrative and the judge stops him.

Coomer Attorney: Two reasons you couldn’t put up the PCAP data, first you claimed you were attacked in the elevator?

Lindell: Yes. There was video and a police investigation but they never found the guy.

Coomer Attorney: The second reason you couldn’t explain the PCAP data is because Colonel Waldron said there was a poison pill on the data?

Lindell: Yes and that’s why General Flynn couldn’t come because it was too dangerous. And I think that was the China data not the PCAP data.

Coomer Attorney: Back to Tina Peters, the Mesa county data ended up on your website?

Lindell: yeah but I don’t believe Tina Peters put it up there, it was on the dark web.

Coomer Attorney: and what Promo code was associated with the Tina Peters / Mesa County data?

Lindell: There were no ads during the event. Ads would have been afterwards when we put it up.

Coomer Attorney: what about the code “Frank”

Lindell: That’s a generic code, you can’t use that to track. You have to have an individual promo code to track impact or paid ads.

Coomer Attorney: with respect to what we’re looking at, you stated that the Tina Peters data showed that there were two sets of books created during the trusted build.

Lindell: That’s absolutely correct.

Coomer Attorney: you implicated Jena Griswold the current Secretary of State of Colorado.

Lindell: That’s correct.

Coomer Attorney: Shifting now to the promotions you did for this event. Do you recognize this flash sale promoting the cyber symposium?

Lindell: That is correct.

Coomer Attorney: it’s from the , Promocode FrankSpeech

Lindell: CorrectMyPillow.com

Coomer Attorney: Offers exhibit (admitted) — shows affiliate page for FrankSpeech selling MyPillow products. This particular offer ends August 12, what’s the significance of that date?

Lindell: last day of the sale, flash sales are 3 days, would have been the last day of the cyber symposium.

Coomer Attorney: Reading the text of the advertisement. (Ad is Promoting the cyber symposium, selling mypillows, in mikes voice.) “To help support this cyber symposium, I’m offering my best deals, but only on FrankSpeech.” Asks to confirm.

Lindell: Yes. Mypillow was happy that FrankSpeech was going to sell pillows

Coomer Attorney: so you were happy with yourself?

Very strange back and forth about his harm vs. coomers harm.

Coomer Attorney: (new exhibit - Video of Mike, same script as what we just read — but as a video.) That’s the same?

Lindell: Yes

Coomer Attorney: (new exhibit - list of attendees and contact info) your intent was to invite every legislator from every state?

Lindell: Yes that was the intent.

Coomer Attorney: (offering exhibit, objection, side bar.) Approximately 69 politicians?

Lindell: I have no idea. I was worried about getting the information out to country.

Coomer Attorney: And invitations were sent out? (Attempting to find an exhibit that invites Ken Buck) This email is from Terry Peats (MyPillow) to Ken Buck, produced by MyPillow?

Lindell: Yes, but she worked for Lindell Mgmt (admitted)

Coomer Attorney: Did she ever work for my pillow?

Lindell: Yes, she must have because she has a mypillow email address.

Coomer Attorney: And this is an email to Ken Buck, who was unable to attend, correct?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: you’ve testified about the coordination of people getting on the stage and you heard Mr. Olsen was responsible for vetting people on the stage?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: You approved Mr. Olsen approving people?

Lindell: No. can I explain?

Coomer Attorney: Did you approve it or not?

Lindell: I didn’t approve it, I didn’t approve Kurt approving it, that wasn’t what was supposed to happen.

Coomer Attorney: what did you think was going to happen?

Lindell: It changed on the second day because I couldn’t talk, and the red team had taken over.

Coomer Attorney: whoever approved it, they were hired by you?

Lindell: A lot of them weren’t hired, they volunteered

Coomer Attorney: At the end of the day, you trusted Mr. Olsen to approve that process.

Lindell: Disputes characterization and describes it as more fluid.

Coomer Attorney: (back to FrankSpeech deposition) If there was someone you didn’t want on stage, could you have put a stop to that?

Lindell: I wouldn’t have known. I trusted my attorney Kurt Olsen.

Coomer Attorney: That’s the only person you identified on that?

Lindell: Yes— (tries to expound but gets cut off)

Coomer Attorney: Olsen testified that Mike wasn’t involved in the details. Is that right?

Lindell: Not on who was going on that stage, it was happening in real time.

Coomer Attorney: I know who was on the stage. (Plays video clip of Clements and Oltmann on stage at CS talking about Eric Coomer. The whole clip — Coomer Facebook posts, Oltmann’s call story, something about an Antifa Judge. On the stage is Joe Oltmann, Pat Colbeck, David Clements, Phil Waldron, Josh Merritt) Are you surprised they’re on the stage?

Lindell: I’m surprised Josh Merritt was on the stage. Patrick Colbeck is a rocket scientist. I met him for the first time on absolute proof. I never met a rocket scientist before.

Coomer Attorney: as you made clear, you have not vetted the Coomer call story prior to the symposium?

Lindell: I never heard about it before then:

Coomer Attorney: you’re accepting no responsibility for what happened on your stage at the cyber symposium?

Lindell: Take responsibility for what? If we get rid of the voting machines…

Coomer Attorney: You didn’t meet Oltmann before this? Never heard of him?

Lindell: I don’t think so.

Coomer Attorney: Shows text exhibit from Feb 22, 2021 Dr Chaps to Mike Lindell telling him about Oltmann and Coomer story. Does that help you remember Joe Oltmann?

Lindell: No, I don’t know who Dr. Chaps is and I would have handed this over to Kurt Olsen. We got hundreds of these messages we were sifting through. Anything material went to Kurt Olsen.

Back and forth about credentialing at the symposium.

Coomer Attorney: whatever the vetting process was, Mr. Oltmann got in?

Lindell: No he wasn’t credentialed as an expert, he was there as media.

Coomer Attorney: (plays video of David Clement’s talking about Coomer on the stage. Repeats Oltmann’s statement on the CS stage.) You performed no evaluation or investigation on this before Clements said it on the stage?

Lindell: On the adjudication process, we performed months of analysis on adjudication. More due diligence than you can ever imagine.

Coomer Attorney: So you agree with Professor Clements that Eric Coomer’s adjudication feature murdered the American people’s vote?

Lindell: I never accused Coomer of stealing the election.

Coomer Attorney: you accused him of treason.

Lindell: yes for what he did to me and my pillow and suppressing getting the vote out.

Uncomfortable exchange about whether the attorneys are also guilty of treason.

Coomer Attorney: Do you believe in accountability?

Lindell: Yes, you should all be held accountable.

Coomer Attorney: (new exhibit - text from Dawn to Mike on daily Promocode influence) Do you recognize this?

Lindell: yes, explains the exhibit and the process for promocodes at mypillows

Coomer Attorney: Every morning you get the promo code data from the prior day?

Lindell: No, it’s in real time. (Explains why and how of it)

Coomer Attorney: (moves to second page of exhibit — details on updates of financials and Mike’s responses.) exhibit is from July 30, 2021.

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Coomer Attorney: you had daily reports on your Promocode and every week you’d get a weekly summary?

Lindell: This is just a snapshot, I look throughout the day. She’s giving me a snapshot of the day.

Coomer Attorney: showing an example of a deviation.

Lindell: Yes, that would be a deviation and I would look at that immediately.

Coomer Attorney: this is just a handful. How many promo codes do you have active?

Lindell: Thousands and thousands.

Coomer Attorney: this (exhibit up) is a week before the symposium?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: So sales are pretty good this week. The “Frank” Promocode was around $390K.

Lindell: Yes, I’d need more data to know if that was a deviation.

Coomer Attorney: there is a big jump at the bottom for $740K. We’re you running ads on Newsmax?

Lindell: Yes. It’s weird that it doesn’t show prior week.

Coomer Attorney: let’s look at the next week. Reference says “sales are incredible today”

Lindell: Yes — expounds a bit on the data and how to read it.

Coomer Attorney: while you were running around at the CS you were tracking sales on MyPillow.

Lindell: No I doubt I looked at this, I was too busy trying to get rid of voting machines.

Coomer Attorney: (Showing more week over week data.) So you got a revenue lift from the CS.

Lindell: Yes — expounds on how events can impact revenue. We didn’t run any ads for the symposium.

Coomer Attorney: we saw ads on RSBN

Lindell: They aren’t affiliated with us. And during the cyber symposium there were no ads

Coomer Attorney: let’s look at the next exhibit. Last day of symposium (increases are huge — “Frank” goes from $17K to over $200K, for example.)

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: (moves on to another page) Messages from Dawn — “guessing you want me to track promo code ‘audit’” — so something happened with Promocode audit causing a spike in revenue, right?

Lindell: Yes.

Coomer Attorney: Goes through specific revenue bumps after the symposium.

Lindell: Yes we had more viewers and people stuck with the network for a few weeks afterwards.

Coomer Attorney: you pitched a Promocode on stage at the CS, right?

Lindell: I don’t know. I’d have to see.

Coomer Attorney: video plays of Mike saying “today you can’t save up to 66% and use Promocode “audit”. You said this was day 3? You got your voice back on Day 3?

Lindell: yep.

Coomer Attorney: Moving on to Mike being served with this lawsuit at the Capitol, April 5, 2022. Exhibit admitted — it’s a picture of Mike and allegedly Joe Oltmann holding papers under a tent. You can’t see Joe.

Lindell: Don’t know if that’s Joe. Don’t remember a conversation with him. I saw who it was from and who they were suing, and I didn’t read the lawsuit because I didn’t have time.

Coomer Attorney: and then you said something… Video of Lindell remarks at capitol event. “Eric Coomer just sued me… thanks Eric… Eric will be the first one behind bars when we melt down the machines.” You wanted the audience at the Capitol in Colorado that that Eric Coomer should be jailed for election crimes.

Lindell: Not for election fraud. I didn’t know who he was until he sued me. I wanted him jailed for blocking and attacking me and MyPillow.

Coomer Attorney: is blocking a crime in your book?

Lindell: what you’re doing in this court room is criminal. Blocking the truth getting out, covering up stolen election crime. It’s criminal. I was very upset on the stage because he sued an employee owned company. I’m $10M in the hole because of what you did.

Coomer Attorney: and you blame Eric Coomer for that?

Lindell: As much as I do you now.

Coomer Attorney: another video exhibit — Mike on Brannon Howse talking about Eric Coomer servicing Lindell with a lawsuit. Video is Mike ranting about Eric Coomer for suing MyPillow, “you belong behind bars… you’ve been part of the biggest crime this country has ever seen… you even said what you did… you should have thought about that before you did crimes against the whole country.” You said he was part of the biggest crime. That’s not blocking?

Lindell: Blocking is part of the cover up. Our elections are sacred. Coming after a company, to coming after me, that’s criminal.

Coomer Attorney: what evidence do you have that Eric Coomer rigged the election.

Lindell: I’m living it right now. He sued me for no reason. There are different blocker types. Does he want money? Does he want to stop me? Either way, what you lawyers are doing is criminal.

Back and forth on Newsmax and Coomer and Mike’s intent. Key is Mike didn’t talk about him until after Coomer sued him. Revisits the Newsmax host walking off the set during interview.

Coomer Attorney: If Dr Coomer, as you stated, committed the biggest crime the world has ever seen… committed crimes against the United States and all him humanity, that’s related to election crimes?

Lindell: He had just sued me.

Coomer Attorney: that statement is directly related to committing election fraud?

Lindell: Covering up election fraud.

Coomer Attorney: Have you shared with the jury all of the evidence you have for Eric Coomer covering up the crime as you stated?

Back and forth narrowing in on the question?

Lindell: Dr. Coomer did not change the election, but he is a blocker, he is doing stuff to me directly so I can’t get the word out. Attacking me and my company and my employees walking off each month because we don’t have any more money. “He said ‘I’m going after pillow boy clown”

Coomer Attorney: let’s take you at your word on crimes against America, you would agree that would be an unprecedented technical feat for him to rig the election.

Lindell: I never said he rigged the election, ever.

Coomer Attorney: the cover up then.

Lindell: Yes, he is part of the biggest cover up in history.

Coomer Attorney: At your word, if he was to do this crime, the biggest coverup the world has ever seen, the machines would have to be connected to the internet right?

Lindell: Yes and we have 100% evidence of that.

Coomer Attorney: Well, we told you to bring all the evidence…

Lindell: This trial isn’t about the 2020 election fraud, this trial is about my words and my beliefs. We couldn’t bring all the evidence, it would take months.

Coomer Attorney: I’m asking for evidence that Dr. Coomer was involved in a crime.

Lindell: No, you’re asking me for machine evidence. My evidence in this case is what he did to me, you can’t explain why he sued mypillow.

Coomer Attorney: on the 6th you still hadn’t met Dr Coomer? He hadn’t accused you of anything? Raises the “antifa call”

Lindell: No, no. The call is superfluous, so irrelevant. This is about the evidence of election fraud (raised Halderman and kill chain again.)

Coomer Attorney: did Dr Coomer cause you to go on Bannon’s podcast the next day?

Lindell: no, he didn’t.

Coomer Attorney: but you did, didn’t you.

Lindell: Yes I did.

Coomer Attorney: plays video clip of Lindell on Bannon recapping getting served by Coomer in Colorado. “I got served… Eric Coomer was the head of dominion… he says we don’t have anything to hide…” Bannon responds with why would we do that. “Because the lawyers are criminals too — it’s a criminal crime family… we have reason to believe that our overseas military votes that were emailed in were manipulated.” You had the opportunity to exercise self control… why did you go on Bannon?

Lindell: Because he was one of the only ones that would have me on. Because of the lawfare, all the conservative media wouldn’t have me on. This was very important. Explains UOCAVA and CVR discoveries. Bannon was the only one that would have me on.

Coomer Attorney: the truth is, it was reckless for you to accuse Dr. Coomer when you had no evidence.

Lindell: The evidence is that he attacked me. Expounds about lawfare and how many people dominion sued. He’s sue happy. He’s suing all these people. I’m not going to take it.

Coomer Attorney: was it lawfare when you sued Joe Oltmann and Pidoxa?

Lindell: I didn’t sue Joe Oltmann or Pidoxa. I don’t sue people.

Coomer Attorney: did you forget that you sued Josh Merritt.

Lindell: The lawyers sued him for what happened at the symposium. That was Kurt that did that not me.

Coomer Attorney: The lawyer signed the pleadings, but you’re the plaintiff.

Lindell: I didn’t sue Josh Merritt.

Coomer Attorney: Kurt Olsen sued Merritt without your consent?

Lindell: I don’t know. Maybe he sued, maybe he threatened a lawsuit, it wasn’t about money, it was about getting the drives back and we never got them back.

Coomer Attorney: plays a clip of Mike on Oltmann podcast talking about Eric Coomer and why he sued. Frivolous lawsuit. Fourth statement you made about Dr. Coomer?

Lindell: I guess.

Coomer Attorney: You didn’t actually read the lawsuit until your deposition? Did you see the demand for retraction or not?

Lindell: No.

Coomer Attorney: another exhibit — video clip of Mike “I stand by my words that he’s a criminal because of what he did to me and my pillow and frankspeech.” What was the promo code associated with that statement?

Lindell: (reads from image) L66

Coomer Attorney: And you’ve brought all the evidence you have to back that up?

Lindell: This isn’t about 2020, this is about what you guys did to me.

Coomer Attorney: Do you have an X account?

Lindell: Didn’t for two years. Goes through history of his and MyPillow being kicked off Twitter after J6.

Coomer Attorney: New exhibit, post that Mike made on June 4, 2025. You’ve now offered the sale of the century for the trial of the century?

Lindell: Yes, we can’t afford to be here so we are liquidating our sheets.

Objection! (Inaudible) Counsel approach. SIDE BAR

Coomer Attorney: what Promocode does the jury need to put in to get the benefits of this dale.

Lindell: “Jury”

Coomer Attorney: Pass the witness.

Lindell Attorney: Good afternoon. Let me begin with a topic that the plaintiffs have spent a considerable amount of time on. Made the implication that you’re using promo codes to make money and drive up sales. Is that a fair characterization of your motivation?

Lindell: It’s 100% in the other direction. Discusses his losses in 2021.

Lindell Attorney: In 2021, your network was approximately $60M and MyPillow was valued at almost $1B. And when you started talking about the elections, you started losing money immediately?

Lindell: Immediately. First it was the box stores and Walmart and Costco and Bed Bath and Beyond.

Lindell Attorney: is there any other reason they stopped?

Lindell: No they told me it was because I was talking about elections.

Lindell Attorney: How much did you lose in the first month?

Lindell: ~ $150M

Lindell Attorney: what is your networth now?

Lindell: I owe $10M — I borrowed from everyone I could.

Lindell Attorney: what about MyPillow?

Lindell: It’s been decimated. I had to borrow money to make payroll this week.

Lindell Attorney: was there a time after you started to make these allegations that you made more money than you did before you made your assertions?

Lindell: No.

Lindell Attorney: Didn’t you think if you continued making assertions things would turn around and you’d start to make money.

Lindell: No.

Lindell Attorney: plaintiff attorney showed bumps in revenue during the symposium. Were any of these bumps significant enough to cover the losses you suffered?

Lindell: No.

Lindell Attorney: Back and forth disputing financial motivations. Let’s shift to political motivations — were your assertions intended to specifically support Republican candidates?

Lindell: No, I had more issues with uniparty republicans. One of the first things I saw was democrats and kill chain.

Lindell Attorney: and you even gave an example of election irregularities impacting democracy’s right?

Lindell: Yes. Recaps Michelle Longspears in Dekalb County, GA. The race was overturned. (See above in thread for NYT link on this story.)

Lindell Attorney: so it’s not fair to say that you only wanted to help Republicans.

Lindell: Absolutely not.

Lindell Attorney: was there ever a time you or your team identified evidence of fraud that went to the advantage of a Democrat and you buried it?

Lindell: You find it everywhere, in any races, could be school board. Goes into cast vote records and patterns that don’t make sense.

Lindell Attorney: we’ll come back to that. Let’s get back to the central case. You understand that the jury is not going to decide the 2020 election in that case?

Lindell: Yes.

Lindell Attorney: You’re in trial, not the elections, right?

Lindell: Yes.

Lindell Attorney: Of all the statements that we’ve heard about, that you’ve made in the last five years, did you ever make any of those statements while knowing that they’re false? Thinking they’re false? Without due diligence.

Lindell: No. No. No.

Lindell Attorney: how much money did you spend?

Lindell: $40M at least, everything I had.

Lindell Attorney: and how much time?

Lindell: At least 10 hours a day for four years.

Lindell Attorney: You were asked about your statements and opinions, about this being the biggest crime and that Mr. Coomer was a criminal. And you recall that Mr. Coomer also made some assertions and mistakes — comments about Trump. You remember that?

Lindell: No.

Lindell Attorney: you remember Mr. Coomer asking for mercy because he speaks hyperbolically?

Lindell: yes

Lindell Attorney: And you similarly speak hyperbolically, right?

Lindell: Yes.

Lindell Attorney: did you say things you don’t believe?

Lindell: I might have exaggerated my comments but I absolutely believe this is battle of good and evil and the crime of the century.

Lindell Attorney: how busy are you?

Lindell: Mike accounts for all the things he does. 200 texts and 4000 emails (guessing) — every day.

Lindell Attorney: Go through your background so the jury can get to know you.

Lindell: Parents divorced at 7; lived in trailer park; never received any sort of windfall; first quarter of college then dropped out; working at grocery store. Started doing businesses; became a carpet cleaner — houses and cars; addiction to alcohol started. Food trucks outside corporate offices — brand new concept at the time. In three years we built five trucks, employed three people, turned a profit. Was also bartending back then at a big restaurant and the owner was going to sell it. He sold it to me on contract (no bank or mortgage). Sold that and bought a different bar in 1990. Had it for 13 years.

Lindell Attorney: you mentioned cocaine?

Lindell: I was a functional addict. Back then I was into cocaine and it masked my pain and gave me false courage. Self image. I became very addicted to cocaine, in the 1990s almost every day. Switched ti crack cocaine around 2000. Had to sell that bar and it was devastating. Three years later, everything I fought for came true in MN. I got calls from all around the state thanking me.

Coomer Attorney: Your Honor…

The Court: Counsel approach please.

SIDE BAR

Lindell Attorney: You said you were addicted to alcohol/cocaine/crack cocaine. Are you still addicted now?

Lindell: No, God freed me of the desire on January 26, 2009

Lindell Attorney: Questioning about starting MyPillow. Who was the inventor?

Lindell: It was me. More anecdotes about the start of mypillow, We made mypillows in our living room and sold them at kiosks. Ended up at Minneapolis home and garden show. Shows and fairs for years.

Lindell Attorney: You started at kiosks, did you move on to other channels.

Lindell: Story about infomercials and producing them in 2011. At that time we had 2-3 employees. 30 days later, I had 500 employees.

Lindell Attorney: What are promo codes?

Lindell: Born out of the need to track purchases and be able to see what sales channels and vendors were more effective than others. We set up a system to track advertising down to the penny. MLB had me come in and teach them the system.

Lindell Attorney: Fast forward to Dec 2020 how profitable was the company and how many employees.

Lindell: Several hundred million and around 1500 not counting seasonal employees.

Lindell Attorney: tell me about your hiring practices.

Lindell: We are a company of second chances. We hire addicts in recovery and people getting out of prison.

Discussion about charities and donations from MyPillow and where the donate.

Lindell Attorney: Philosophy for how to treat employees.

Lindell: like family. We pay you to grieve — doesn’t matter who the deceased is to them. If an addict is in the company, they get help not fired. I pay for their treatment. Individual things, like deviations, we find out what’s going on (tells story about an employee that was constantly late bc he was walking 14mi to work. Mike bought him a car.)

Lindell Attorney: Did you pay for the car with corporate funds?

Lindell: No that was my money.

The Court: Counsel approach.

SIDE BAR

Lindell Attorney: anything you want to tell us about your customers?

Lindell: I treat every customer like my only customer. (Tells story about driving to deliver pillows.)

Lindell Attorney: explain better Business bureau rating?

Lindell: We had highest rating in their history, torch award, we were their example of what a company should be. Met candidate Trump before 2016 election. Did a press release on the meeting. Met with attacks on MyPillow and BBB took me from an A+ to an F.

Lindell Attorney: did they give you an explanation?

Lindell: It was political. That’s all they would say.

END FOR THE DAY

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