derek guy Profile picture
Jun 14 19 tweets 10 min read Read on X
I think Brad Pitt's suit is interesting. And I'll tell you why. 🧵
This is the suit in question. It's a bespoke suit by Anderson & Sheppard in London. The cloth is a 60/40 mohair-wool blend from Standeven's "Carnival" book. The stylist was George Cortina.

To understand why this suit is interesting, you have to know a bit about tailoring history
In the early 20th century, Dutch-English tailor Frederick Scholte noticed that a man could be made to look more athletic if he belted up his guard's coat, puffing out the chest and nipping the waist. So he built this idea into his patterns. Thus the "drape cut" war born. Image
Scholte was an ill-tempered man with strong opinions. He mostly refused to dress entertainers. He turned down a man because he arrived in a flashy car. When the wife of a US ambassador brought up an issue at a fitting, he ripped the coat off the man and threw both of them out. Image
But boy, did he know how to cut! He dressed some of the most stylish men of his day, such as the Duke of Windsor. The Duke was so afraid of his ill-tempered, opinionated tailor that he dared not ask for belt loops on trousers, sneakily getting them from a tailor in NYC instead. Image
Image
The drape cut is distinguished by its soft English shoulders (softer than padded English coats, but not as soft as Neapolitan tailoring). It also has a full chest. Take a look at these two coats: the left is called a "clean" chest; the right is called a drape cut (made by A&S) Image
Image
The term "drape" refers to how excess fabric "drapes" along the armhole. This is done through drafting and tailoring. The chest piece inside is cut on a bias, so that the chest is more rounded. On a clean chest, the garment would sit closer to the body. This is by Steed Bespoke: Image
Image
Before he passed away, Scholte taught a Swedish cutter named Peter Gustav Anderson, then co-founded Anderson & Sheppard in 1906. Anderson & Sheppard dressed some of the most stylish men of the 20th cent: Fred Astaire, Gary Cooper, and Noël Coward among them. Image
Image
During this time, bespoke tailoring was a hush hush gentlemen's business and tailors frowned upon promotion. Even in this world, A&S was stricter than most. Older clients recall how they felt tailors peered down on them from the stacks of tweed

1960s A&S suit + Colin Harvey: Image
Image
In the forward of Anderson & Sheppard's vanity book A Style is Born, Graydon Carter — a longtime A&S client, along with Fran Lebowitz — recalls how his cutter wouldn't even take requests if he thought they were in bad taste! This was like the Soup Nazi of tailoring shops. Image
Of course, times change. The very fact that A&S released a vanity book shows they've changed their views on self-promotion. They also have a very nice ready-to-wear line, which isn't something bespoke tailors would have considered 70 years ago. Image
Image
Brad Pitt here is wearing a bespoke suit, which means that the pattern was drafted from scratch and then the garment was perfected through a series of fittings. It retains the DNA of a drape cut (note the rounded chest), but has been clearly shaped by a stylist. Image
The most notable thing is the dropped buttoning point. The buttoning point is the top button on a two-button jacket, center button on a three-button jacket, or simply the button on a single-button jacket. On a classic coat, it's placed at the waist, the narrowest part of a torso Image
Image
By dropping the buttoning point, you give the jacket a lower center of gravity. Armani did this a lot in his ready-to-wear tailoring. The overall effect was slouchy and louche, an attitude embodied in Richard Gere's role for American Gigolo. Image
Image
Image
But also, when you drop the buttoning point, you have to elongate the jacket. Otherwise, the distance between the button and hem will be too short. It appears Cortina wanted to balance this slouchy look with slightly longer jacket sleeves and trousers with a full break.
I think Pitt's suit is interesting for three reasons.

First, it's another sign that the age of skinny, short suits is coming to an end. Originally ushered into menswear in the early 2000s by Hedi Slimane and Thom Browne, it has a long run. But people want volume now. Image
Image
Second, it's interesting to see someone take a traditional tailoring technique (drape cut) and put it into this context. Even Armani wasn't really a drape cut. This is proper English drape.

Third, it shows how the bespoke tailoring industry has changed. Image
Image
100 years ago, Scholte sneered at entertainers and wouldn't even take style requests from clients. 50 years ago, Anderson & Sheppard's managers looked down on the idea of advertising. But now they regularly do things with stars, stylists, and fashion houses like Wales Bonner. Image
I don't say this with any degree of snobbery. Today's tailoring world might look very different to a cutter or tailor from 100 years ago. But I'm glad that open minded people do what they need to introduce people to tailoring and, most importantly, keep this craft alive. Image

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with derek guy

derek guy Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @dieworkwear

Jun 14
The US Army celebrated its 250th year today with a massive parade in Washington, DC. It appears @ComfortablySmug believes that this is an appropriate tie for the occasion.

I disagree and I'll tell you why. 🧵
It's once again worth reminding that men's dress used to be governed by time, place, and occasion (TPO). If you were of a certain social station and had to do a certain thing, you were expected to wear a certain outfit.

This tradition can be seen in men's neckwear.
In Britain, where we derive most of our traditions for classic men's dress, the term "regimental stripe" refers to neckwear with diagonal lines, like you see below. These were not purely about decoration. Each design symbolized belonging to some organization. Image
Read 11 tweets
Jun 10
This is untrue.

I see you're a luxury watch dealer. I'm also interested in watches. Let me show you how free and easy migration has allowed you to earn a living. 🧵
In 1881, Hans Wilsdorf was born in Bavaria, then part of Germany, to parents who died not long after he was born. At a young age, Wilsdorf set off into the world. He landed in England in 1903, which at the time had virtually no formal immigration controls. Image
Image
Lucky for him. Two years later, fear of poor Eastern European Jews flooding the UK led to 1905 Aliens Act, which moved the country from an open-door policy to one of stricter control. This was the first British law that labeled certain migrants as "undesirable." Image
Read 19 tweets
Jun 7
I can tell you who goes to cobblers. And a bit about the trade. 🧵 Image
In the 18th century, men got shoes from two types of people. The upper classes went to cordwainers, who measured feet and made shoes from scratch. The lower working-classes went to cobblers, who cobbled together shoes using scraps from salvaged pre-owned footwear. Image
A cobbler was also someone who repaired footwear. Hence the Middle English term cobeler ("mender of shoes") deriving from an early form of cobble ("to mend roughly, patch"). In shoemaking, cordwainers and cobblers were considered distinct trades. Cobbler was lower on the ladder. Image
Image
Read 14 tweets
Jun 5
An offhand comment about how Prince Harry doesn't dress very well seems to have stirred up his fans. So here's a thread on how both Harry and William don't dress well when compared to the older men in their family — and how this represents a broader decline in taste. 🧵 Image
I should say at the outset that I don't care about the drama surrounding the Royal family. I don't care if you're Team Markle or Team Middleton or Team whatever. I am simply talking about clothes. The following is also not meant to be personal jabs; just an honest review.
The first thing to understand is that select members of royal family were incredible dressers. Most notable is Edward VIII, the Duke of Windsor. For a time, whatever he wore, others followed. He popularized cuffed trousers, belts, and a tailoring style known as the "drape cut." Image
Image
Read 24 tweets
May 31
I respectfully disagree. To me, this represents a poor financial decision. Let me show you why. 🧵
When we zoom in on the wallet, we see the label "Saint Laurent Paris," a French luxury fashion house that became popular about ten years ago when Kanye started wearing the label. This was also when Hedi Slimane was at the company's creative helm. Image
Image
For many young men at the time, Saint Laurent was their entry into designer fashion, partly because the designs were conceptually approachable (LA rocker, Hot Topic), while the Kanye co-sign made them cool and the prices signaled status (and for the uninformed, suggested quality) Image
Image
Read 18 tweets
May 24
When I was on a menswear forum, navy trousers were of great controversy. Discussions about them lasted many years, resulting in long-lasting rivalries. Sometimes people refrained from speaking about them out of fear of dredging up old debates.

Here's a thread on navy pants 🧵
First, I should state at the outset that there's no way to have this conversation without, in some way, speaking crudely about certain classes of people. I make no judgements about their worth or dignity. I am only describing the semiotics of men's dress.
Second, everything depends on your goals. Dress is not a science, so there are no overriding laws. Everything is contextual to culture. More on this later

Before we start, here are two outfits involving green sport coats. Which do you like better? Please choose before moving on. Image
Image
Read 20 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us!

:(