Per Frans' suggestion, I started with a Peter McCormack's episode with Daniel Roberts, Co-CEO of IREN.
If you are a fellow IREN virgin, here's everything you need to know (with my added commentary).
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1/ Meet the Co-CEOs
Daniel and Will Roberts are the co-CEO brothers behind IREN (Iris Energy), a Bitcoin mining and AI infrastructure company powered by 100% renewable energy.
Dan brings 20+ years of experience in infrastructure, renewables, and finance, with previous roles at Macquarie Capital and Palisade Investment Partners, a multi-billion AUM infrastructure fund.
Will’s background is in commodities, mining, and digital assets, spending over a decade at Macquarie Group where he co-founded their digital assets team.
Together, the Roberts brothers founded IREN in 2018 after discovering Bitcoin in 2013.
Their edge?
Deep infrastructure expertise and a vision to solve energy grid challenges while scaling Bitcoin and AI compute.
2/ IREN = Bitcoin + AI
Back in the 2000s, Daniel saw firsthand how mismanaged renewables caused massive energy grid fluctuations (and waste).
His solution?
Build data centers that flex energy use in real-time while maximizing profitability.
When there’s excess power, IREN mines Bitcoin.
When the grid is stressed, IREN gives power back.
IREN's proprietary algorithm checks prices every 5 minutes therefore creating optimized, on-demand energy for both Bitcoin and AI workloads.
Said another way, there IREN always have 2 buyers for the same unit of energy generated.
3/ Low Cost Miner = Downside Hedge
Being the low-cost Bitcoin miners have a built-in downside hedge.
When Bitcoin’s price drops, high-cost miners get wiped out.
As a result, the global hashrate shrinks.
But since you are the low cost miner, your overall market share of the network grows.
In other words, you mine more Bitcoin at a lower cost.
This is unique to Bitcoin as compared to other commodities.
For example, in gold or copper mining, you don’t suddenly get to mine double when your competitors go under.
4/ The Physical Bottleneck
When Bitcoin’s price takes off, the network can’t scale overnight.
It takes billions of dollars, power contracts, hardware, and physical infrastructure to bring new hash rate online.
The last cycle?
It took 9 months for hashrate to catch up after the price had already peaked.
This supply lag creates explosive upside for miners already plugged in.
Bitcoin moves at light speed...but the machines don’t.
5/ More Diligence Needed
This video was made over a year ago and since then, IREN has made significant moves.
One major part of the interview that was not discussed was the AI side of their business.
IREN currently is still bucketed with other Bitcoin miners, which have significantly lagged Bitcoin and Bitcoin Treasury Companies.
But as many of my fellow X friends have told me, IREN is much more of an AI play than a Bitcoin play....
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Michael Saylor just joined Jordan Peterson's show to prophesize the collapse of the U.S. dollar while offering Bitcoin as the solution.
But this wasn’t your typical Saylor interview.
Here’s what made it different (and why you need to watch it):
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2/ The Perfect Interviewer
Peterson is often criticized for interrupting his guests.
But in Saylor’s case, it worked beautifully.
As a clinical psychologist, Jordan's probing questions are designed to uncover the why, not just the what.
This type a pattern interrupt reveals the guest’s underlying psychology, forcing them to present ideas from fresh and unexpected angles.
For example, even though Saylor earned an engineering degree from MIT, he said he would’ve preferred to study history at Yale (but ROTC would not have covered the tuition).
But it is through his exact love of history, combined with a childhood spent immersed in science fiction, that gave Saylor the ability to bridge the past with the future.
3/ MicroStrategy: The Zombie Company
Saylor founded MicroStrategy in 1988 and had survived as a publicly traded company for several decades.
By 2010, he had outlasted every rival...except the final boss (Microsoft).
No matter how fiercely they innovated or how hard they pushed, the ceiling refused to budge.
The company was alive, but barely.
No matter how fiercely the team pushed, the ceiling stayed fixed.
Growth stagnated.
Momentum vanished.
It was a fate worse than outright failure - it was the gradual fade to irrelevance.
How to Weaponize Your Balance Sheet w/ mNAV & Accretive Dilution
What if stock dilution actually increased shareholder value?
That’s exactly what Bitcoin Treasury Companies are doing.
By flipping the script and raising money via issuing equity, their are activating their balance sheet to accrete Bitcoin, the rarest commodity known to man.
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1/ mNAV: The Key to the Bitcoin Flywheel
mNAV = Market Cap ÷ Bitcoin Net Asset Value
For example, a company with a market cap of $2 Billion that has $1 Billion of Bitcoin on its balance sheet has a mNAV of 2.
This multiple reflects not just the Bitcoin balance, but the market’s belief in future BTC accumulation and strategic execution.
It’s the leverage engine of Bitcoin public equities.
In short, their higher the mNAV, the more the investor base believes in their ability to acquire Bitcoin effectively.
2/ No One Metric is Perfect
Granted, no single metric should define the quality of a company - mNAV included.
For example, a newly converted Bitcoin Treasury Company with minimal Bitcoin and a relatively large market cap will show an inflated mNAV that doesn’t reflect real strength.
That’s why context matters.
A high mNAV over time, paired with consistent BTC-per-share growth, is far more telling than a one time mNAV spike.
It’s not just about what the metric says today, but how it was earned.