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This is part III of our afternoon coverage of Peggie v NHS Fife & Dr B Upton.

Panel You were asked re your role and you said you offered leadership, with no direct reports. What are you responsible for.
GM [inc] Governance, complaints, adverse events and provide leadership for directorship - patient care standards
P You have no direct line management

P who ED report to?
GM Angie Shepherd
P re i/xs, using policy. You had some involvement - emails, etc. What was your role when those i/x going on.

GM Would be told c i/x. Then pass to i/x manager. No involvement in i/x. May participate in panel as prof nursing manager

P Was there anything in this i/x that was different.
GM Would be cc'd in. In this i/x probably happened more than I would ordinarily be.
P [to doc] You were asked if you were down as investigator. You said it wasn't i/x er - my job is to decide are my notes, what was your

full answer. As your name was against i/x er on a doc.
GM The i/x manager would be - would be confirmed, wouldn't be me.
P Normally that would be person in ED role
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Another panel member Any reason why you copied in more than would normally be?

GM Perhaps because ED inexperienced.
J You are Head of Nursing Medical Directorate. That is?
GM Responsible from E Dept through [missed]
J How many heads
GM There are three within acute division
J What is the corporate services
GM Serve whole of NHS Fife, eg infection control

J If working in ED are you under this medical directorate umbrella. Why would Mr Doyle be involved
GM TO offer ED support. Couldn't be me.
J Offering support re suspension?
J Why could you provide support re suspension and not [missed]
GM [missed]That would be the part I

was involved in
J reads
GM referred to SP being uncomfortable
J Do you know what arrangements were put in place
GM No
J No docs before decision to suspend taken.
J Is there anything in bundle that would tell us about discussions you held with ED
GM No

J If discussing if someone being suspended and it's based around risk assess could you have discussion in absence of risk assessment in writing
GM no
J All risk assess carried out in writing?
GM yes

J Back to template doc with i/x investigation notification. Then doc confirmation of suspension.
J Is first one investigation letter
GM no a different letter
J Is there a template letter for confirmation of suspension
GM don't believe so
J Ah

J When do you understand i/x started
GM When ED - Jan
J Not something you were involved in saying ED you do i/x
J Where would nomination come from
GM Could be myself or service manager
J Do you remember if you were involved
GM I Can't recall
J When did you realise ED

not best person for i/x
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J You said let's find new person and you found AG . When?
GM 29 Feb
J 12 April. Gap between 29/2 and 12/4 - do you know why gap between telling AG re i/x and 12/4 when there appears to be an initial i/x
GM, no, not clear.

J How did you appoint AG
GM Teams call
J Anything said that there might be a period of time before available
GM Not that I recall
J Thank you
JR [to doc] Interview DU gave in AG i/x.

JR DU description of interaction with SP on Xmas eve - please read. You were asked qs c if SP expressing G C beliefs. Do you think commenting on someone's chromosomes is part of GC belief or not
MG Don't believe that's the case. Unwanted q to ask someone. Harrrassment

JR and same q re prisons comment.
GM Not part of GC belief and an unacceptable comment.
JR To March risk assessment. J Doyle to L Miles etc. When did you first see these emails
GM When I first saw bundle
JR DU using f cr. Is it your view that allowing that is affront to

dignity and privacy of f nurses
GM Was in line with guidance at time so believe it was right thing to do.
JR Was suggested that q of confidentiality was communicated [?date] to SP reads c not discussing
GM Was same information that was relayed

JR reads from another doc to SP mentioning confidentiality . KS email to consultants. When did you first see this.
GM When presented in bundle.
JR KS email from January. When did you first see
GM When presented in bundle
JR Another email sent
GM First saw when in bundle

JR This email from ED. When saw it first
GM Same
JR And this email from DU
GM Same
JR And ED email
GM same
[and more eg s]
JR Interaction between DU and SP - process started with Dati x. What do you think c incident. Did DU sexually harassed SP on that occasion.

GM No, don't think DU did harass. Unprofessional behaviour on part of SP.
J Dr Pitt tomorrow and Louise Curran.
J Do we need to call [missed] just to say we have taken his evidence - their evidence I should say to be more accurate.
J Normal time tomorrow.

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