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(1/11) Hyperliquid Valuation Framework: Update 🧵

It has been about 6 months since I initially posted my valuation framework for $HYPE. A lot has changed since then, but also much has remained true

I am as bullish on $HYPE as I have ever been

Let's walk through some numbers👇 Image
(2/11) Revenue Underwriting --

The hardest part of the valuing $HYPE is underwriting an annual revenue (cash flow) number that you can be comfortable with. Hyperliquid is a startup, growing extremely fast. So you would think to include growth in your number. But it is also in a cyclical industry, where bear market volumes can be ~50% lower

Personally, my view has been that Hyperliquid's rapid user growth, inflows, and other catalysts will outpace any reduction in volume from a bear market. We saw this come true over the last 6 months on the growth front, where avg. daily revenue figures have risen substantially. Regarding bear market volumes, I do not think any near-term bear markets for $BTC will be as bad as they have been in the past due to ETF flows and the current crypto-friendly state of US politics

Of course, still a factor to consider and revenues could very well take a ~50% hit for a couple of years, so we will be conservative and use recent average bull market volumes for our go-forward base case ($3m) i.e. no growth
(3/11) Public Company Comps --

Jumping into the fun part -- the math -- where do we actually trade vs. public company peers? Well, quite cheap. If you follow me, you have probably seen me yell into the air about how nobody understands how to value $HYPE. People actually fail at valuing $HYPE for a number of reasons, but one of them is their inability to understand how team tokens play a role in fully diluted supply, and how this is comped to public companies

Public companies issue something called stock based compensation (or SBC). These are vast sums of shares issued primarily to C-suite executives and other higher ups. Many people underwrite these as one-time expenses and do not consider these issuances to be part of the business. I am not many people. I think it's complete bullshit to write off these expenses that are very clearly recurring (unless they are one-time, but that is why we conduct our due diligence). I can confirm that $COIN, $HOOD, and $CRCL all issue approximately ~25% of their Adjusted EBITDA as SBC and have done so for many years at a consistent rate. These are not one-time issuances, these are hundreds of millions of dollars flowing into the hands of C-suite execs in the form of shares at the expense of diluting shareholders. These are very REAL expenses.

If we want to include these expenses in our bottom-line cash flow numbers, then we have to also remove the portion of options shares that are included in diluted share count, because any SBC that was issued in recent years which vests is accounted for in share count. I have done this in the LTM Multiple (Less SBC) column, where I remove "to be issued" SBC shares, and I also add back SBC as an expense (which these companies conveniently exclude from their adjusted EBITDA figures)

Why is this important? Well, it's important because people want to include Hyperliquid's team tokens at full rate in the fully diluted token count, yet they fail to realize that public companies have in effect infinite FDV, because they can (and do) continue to issue hundreds of millions of dollars of shares PER YEAR to their C-suite

So what is the apples-to-apples solution? How do we comp these? If you want to look at Hyperliquid's adjusted fully diluted supply, which includes team tokens at 100%, then you must comp this to net-SBC multiples. If you want to look at standard public co. multiples, then you should likely comp these to a blended figure of circ. supply (no team tokens) and adj. fully diluted supply (team tokens at 100%), i.e. a blended multiple which in effect puts team tokens at 50%. This assumes the team has half of their tokens up front, and receives the other half over a number of years

My methodology is:
1) if you want to look at public company actual bottom-line cash flow that goes to shareholders -- use the LTM Multiple (Less SBC) figures, and comp these to Hyperliquid adjusted fully diluted total supply multiples, which takes Hyperliquid team tokens at 100%
2) if you want to look at how public companies report and how many analysts view them -- i.e. ignoring the fact that they are issuing hundreds of millions in SBC per year at the expense of shareholders -- use the blended adjusted fully diluted supply multiple, which takes Hyperliquid team tokens at 50%. The presumption here is that the team gets 50% up front, and the other 50% is "issued" over many years, just as SBC is issued continuously. The largest difference here is that SBC is infinite, whereas team tokens are capped.

As you can see, when comparing these two lines of multiples, $HYPE looks extremely cheap on both fronts

Last thing I'll mention is profitability. Coinbase, Robinhood, and Circle operate at significantly lower free cash flow margin's than Hyperliquid. This means that if revenues go down, their adj. EBITDA gets compressed far more than Hyperliquid as their expenses are more fixed. Further, as they grow, they are typically spending a lot more on new hires and other expansion expenses. Hyperliquid free cash flow is a lot more pure and sustainable to both the downside and upside. Coinbase has 4300 employees and Robinhood has 2500. Hyperliquid has a core team of 12.Image
(4/11) $HYPE Bull Case --

Let's talk about the bull case. I think this is where most people really get it wrong. They try to look at current figures and then discount them b/c we are in a bull market. Have they ever once stopped to think about how big the TAM is of this market? Perps are the highest TAM market in crypto alongside stablecoins. Hyperliquid today accounts for ~10% of that market, depending on how you are doing your calculations. And with regards to spot CLOB market, it's currently even less. The amount of white space here is astronomical. HyperEVM as well, is still in its infancy. Not to mention HIP3 and all of the exotic types of perps we will see in the future that will expand Hyperliquid from crypto perps to perps for anything you can dream of -- equities being my favorite, pre-IPO private companies, prediction markets, forex, commodities, and more

Perpetual futures are the single best financial instrument on this planet, and Hyperliquid is the AWS of perpetual futures, with incredible scaling capacity, all decentralized and transparent. Trad-fi and the rest of the world are still early to understand perps, but the quality of product is evident and I believe has a lot of room to take over traditional markets

Going back to the bull case, Hyperliquid was doing ~$1m in fees per day when I wrote this first valuation framework in February. (I wrote it right after the TRUMP token launch, so recent fees were elevated). But on run rate, it was about $1m. That figure today is more like $2.5-3.0m We have done about 2x+ growth in just 6 months. Users and inflows have grown substantially as well. I'll post some charts later in this thread as I believe those are the North Star of valuing and understanding Hyperliquid's potential. But I think if you are an investor and you aren't thinking about what is the true bull case of a business that is as young and fast-growing as Hyperliquid, you are doing yourself a disservice

Hyperliquid is currently doing ~5% of volume vs. all CEX's today. It is not crazy to imagine that this figure gets up to 25% in the next couple of years. If that happens, avg daily fees should rise from ~$3m per day to ~$15m per day. I don't have a good reason for why this wouldn't be possible, given the quality of product, team, and all the catalysts to come. Also, the more Hyperliquid grows, the better the product becomes as liquidity deepens

At $10m of fees/day, we are talking about a 5x free cash flow multiple
(5/11) $HYPE vs. Crypto Tokens --

How does $HYPE comp to other tokens in crypto? Well, it's not really even relevant to look at since the comps are so abysmal. The only other tokens that we could comp to are $BONK, $GP, and $PUMP, as memecoin launchpads are the only other product in crypto with strong PMF and cash flow generation. Yes there are DeFi protocols and yes $SOL makes some money, but the multiples are not even worth looking at as they are 80+ so it's not really relevant

For the launchpads, here are some comps. I have positions in $BONK and $GP, which I believe are the only 2 tokens in crypto outside of $HYPE that are undervalued and trade at attractive multiples. Maybe I will do a separate thread on these, as I just got a lot of new information this morning on tokenomics / cash flow for both

$PUMP I had longed but cut my position. I think they are losing this war and honestly deserve it. I always thought their biz model was ripe for disruption with little MOAT and I am glad a non-extractive team like BONK is beginning to win the memecoin war (all metrics are suggesting this is the case)Image
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(6/11) Trad-Fi Pitch --

One of the most important things about $HYPE is its pitch to trad-fi. Everyone is talking about how this cycle is the cycle of trad-fi, and it is very true. We are looking at ~$50-100B of inflows between $BTC and $ETH since launching the ETFs 1.5 years ago. These are record setting for ETFs, and trad-fi interest is certainly here

Now the question is -- what asset is most attractive to trad-fi? Well, how about the only token in the history of crypto that actually generates substantial cash flow with a sustainable, defensible business model?

A Bloomberg analyst gave us the amazing meme: "What is the underlying of a Hyper Liquid?" While it was funny, he posed a great question, and it's a question Trad-Fi has been asking about crypto forever. And now we finally have an answer, and not a weak one, it's a home run

The world of trad-fi doesn't even know about $HYPE yet, likely due to the team not marketing at all. Any other team would have had 1000 calls with investors already, Jeff and co. are built different. But don't be fooled, Trad-Fi will discover $HYPE soon enough. And when they do, the flood gates will open. Personally I think this happens around when $SONN launches. They are heavy hitters on Wall St. and will be marketing $HYPE around with the help of Paradigm and Galaxy Digital. The pitch has never been easier to anyone who actually understands finance. And that is where the money lies today

Another important catalyst is that $SONN has $300M of dry powder to buy $HYPE once the vehicle launches. Everyone has gone crazy about SBET's $5B ATM for $ETH, which is equivalent to around $25B in $BTC purchasing power. For reference, $300M of purchasing power on $HYPE is equivalent to $9B of $ETH purchasing power, or $48B of $BTC purchases. Yes, $48 Billion. For reference, $BTC is on record pace for flows this year and has only taken in $15B YTD. I think the $300M will get front run but will also be a massive catalyst to propel the $SONN flywheelImage
(7/11) Distribution --

$HYPE only has 153k holders. This is less than many memecoins on Solana. $SOL for reference has >10million holders. The reason for the lack of holders is distribution, it is currently hard to buy $HYPE. Low distribution makes it hard for price to go up, as many current holders are up a lot of money and don't necessarily need or feel comfortable with trying to participate in continued upside with size. Thus, we need $HYPE to change hands. But it is hard for retail to buy $HYPE in its current state

Coinbase and Binance refuse to list $HYPE for obvious reasons. But many front-ends and FIAT onramps are being built for Hyperliquid. Phantom also recently built a perps product, leveraging Hyperliquid builder codes. This seems like a strong, continued partnership, and I imagine Phantom will allow for users to buy spot $HYPE as well. Phantom perps has onboarded about 15-20k users in just 2 short weeks. Tapping into this distribution network may be a huge catalyst for $HYPE, in addition to the other distribution networks that are underway. The treasury co's like $SONN and $HYPD I think will also serve as great distribution networks, outside of just big trad-fi money. This may take time and will be more prevalent once they are more matureImage
(8/11) Hyperliquid Stats --

Hyperliquid dashboards are some of the best in all of crypto. Fundamentally, things have never looked better. It is quite astonishing to see where price currently is in the midst of the mammoth growth Hyperliquid has seen of late. I'll just post a few of my favorite charts and let the numbers do the talking as I have rambled enough today

Users growing at rates not seen since TGE, inflows accelerating and at ATHs, OI at ATHsImage
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(9/11) Hyperliquid Stats vs. CEX --

- Volume vs. CEXs hovering at ATHs
- OI vs. CEXs continuing to smash ATHs (more organic metric than volume)

cc @0xhypeflows for great dash Image
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(10/11) SWPE Ratio --

Lowest SWPE ratio since April. Thanks @skewga_hyper for this awesome graphic Image
(11/11) Next Wave of Growth --

I think the next wave of growth for Hyperliquid, in terms of price and cash flow is the following:
- Front-end distribution: builder codes are one of Hyperliquid's best innovations. The bullishness of Phantom Perps launch cannot go understated. Front-ends will also do marketing, whereas Hyperliquid to this day has never done any marketing
- Fiat on-ramp: I have heard this is coming, from a few different sources (not directly thru HL, but HL adjacent apps or front-ends)
- HIP-3: this will be a one of a kind product only possible on Hyperliquid. It will also result in huge token sinks for $HYPE
- $SONN -- this will introduce Wall St. to $HYPE (their mouths will water) and also inject $300M of buy pressure to $HYPE
- Spot collateral for perps trading -- it seems like this is in the works based on testnet deployments and I think would be a huge unlock for the platform and for the $HYPE token to be even more desirable. Would likely see increased volumes and $BTC whales deposit onto HL for this reason as well
- More spot listings. @hyperunit has been working hard and is continuing to list top assets. The $PUMP launch was a massive success and proved how strong of a team we have, between the pre-TGE perps listing from Hyperliquid and the launch directly upon TGE from @hyperunit, quickly getting to the thickest orderbooks. Both of these were a huge onboarding event, as can be seen by the inflows those days

These are just a few of many catalysts and despite writing and rambling on this thread for over an hour there is still so much I didn't even cover. Sorry for the sloppy post but I am tired and just got back from vacation so you will have to deal with my rambles

TL;DR: $HYPE is cheap, you don't have enough, and probably still don't get it

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May 22
Who will be the next buyers of $HYPE?
1. Retail / normies
2. Liquid funds
3. OG Crypto whales, funds, and companies
4. Trad-fi HNW's and firms
5. Assistance fund

"But liquid funds already bought a lot of $HYPE!" Elaboration below on each of these Image
1. Retail / normies
- Currently, there are only 111,358 wallets holding $HYPE. This is extremely small when compared to any major L1 token, or even memecoin
- Most of my friends and many ex-colleagues of mine have bought $BTC, $ETH, and $SOL at some point. None of them have bought $HYPE
- $HYPE does no marketing, the EVM ecosystem is still young, and the thesis / "hype" has not reached the public masses yet
- Most of the buyers who own $SOL are younger and work in finance or tech. These are the kinds of people that will very quickly wrap their heads around how $HYPE generates >$1b of cash flow per year for buybacks, while other L1s do a small fraction of this, particularly when compared to their market caps
- US perps legalization, new front-ends being spun up for $HYPE, and just broader adoption (literally time, it's only been ~6months since TGE), should result in broad adoption
2. Liquid funds
- Yes it is true, based on conversations that I've had, I'd estimate ~70-80% of liquid funds have bought $HYPE at this point
- But the more important question -- how much did they buy?
- Likely insignificant amounts, perhaps 5-10% of their total portfolios? Meanwhile they are invested in a broad basket of other alts that are destined to underperform
- Many liquid funds bought $HYPE out of sheer force and probably did not get their full fills. The truth of the matter is when it comes to alts, there is nothing close
- So why would you be 5-10% allocated? Liquidity concerns? Portfolio risk? Bag bias? "Missed the boat"?
- There is still too much fear of $HYPE being early or unproven, and also too much inability to get over the fact that these funds didn't buy closer to TGE
- Liquid fund allocations should be much higher. I expect continued rotation from other bags into $HYPE. Also, as $HYPE continues to prove itself and grow as a major, larger allocations will be "warranted" as it is "safer"
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May 9
(1/7) Altcoins are pumping -- are these fundamental driven pumps, or are alts simply following $BTC with squeezing-PA after months of down-only?

For 99% of coins, nothing has changed, but for Hyperliquid, the fundamentals continue to improve

Some data below 👇Image
(2/7) User Growth

After bottoming out at about ~500 new users per day, growth has accelerated this past week and we are back to ~1,800 new users per day

New users are extremely important in driving adoption, distribution, and stickier trading volume. Increasing # of users is also a network effect which continues to push growth forwardImage
(3/7) USDC Inflows

USDC inflows have reached a new ATH after a slow bleed from the top in February

Inflows now sit at $2.63Bn after $362M of fresh inflows in the last 48h

I expect inflows to continue to accelerate past ATH as a new wave of trading / mini-bull cycle beginsImage
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Feb 7
(1/6) $HYPE Is Programmed to Go Up 🧵

For the same reason that stocks continuously rise over any meaningful time horizon -- earnings!

When I say stocks, I mean profitable companies that have some sort of established business moat, as there are obviously exceptionsImage
(2/6) There are 3 main ways stocks use their earnings: dividends, buybacks, and re-investing in the company (R&D/CapEx)
(1) Dividends -- don't help stock price appreciation directly, but they do contribute to total return
(2) Buybacks -- company buys back shares and burns them, resulting in buy pressure + taking supply off the market
(3) R&D/CapEx -- helps grow earnings, which are eventually used for (2) or (3) once the company is mature, or once the ROI is no longer there to re-invest
(3/6) Hyperliquid does (2), which is the most directly impactful way to increase price

Buybacks result in buy pressure (increasing price) but more importantly, they take supply off the market. By taking supply off the market, $HYPE actually gets "de-valued" over time *if* price stays the same

This is bullish, because it means $HYPE trades at a cheaper P/E multiple, making it more attractive to buyers. The cheaper the multiple, the more investors will want to come in to buy it
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Jan 21
(1/6) Hyperliquid Valuation Framework 🧵

Ok I put together some simple multiples / comps on $HYPE $SOL $ETH $COIN $SPY

Let's dive in a bit on my methodology, what numbers to focus on, how $HYPE comps to others, and other factors to consider

This is a long read so grab a snackImage
(2/6) Methodology

A multiple has two components: price (valuation) and earnings (fees)

At the top I break out fees into different time frames

Then, I take a look at token count in 2 different ways: circulating and adjusted fully diluted

Circulating is obvious, that is what is on the market at present, effectively the airdrop amount less HIP burns and assistance fund buybacks

Fully diluted is where I think people get confused on. and assume this is the correct valuation figure. $HYPE has a fixed fully diluted supply (it is not inflationary) and 38.888% of supply has been set aside for future emissions and community rewards. Further, 3% is for community grants. 1.2% has been bought back by the assistance fund, and 0.1% has been burned from HIP trading fees.

I removed buybacks and burns. And I have also removed future emissions / community grants. My assumption is that a significant amount of this 38.888% is reserved for staking rewards over a long period of time. And any community grants are +EV and a positive way to spend funds to bolster the community or ecosystem.

The remaining non-circulating supply is reserved for the team / future team (23.8%), and the foundation (6.0%). I am including these full amounts in my adjusted supply figure; however, I think that is conservative as there is no way the team is selling / distributing this amount of tokens anytime soon. These will be distributed over a very long period of time and thus should be treated in a highly discounted manner. Reminder that this team does not need a liquidity event

Personally, I think the correct supply number is somewhere in between circulating and adjusted fully diluted
(3/6) Numbers

Let's talk numbers. 2-day is obviously a high figure to use right now as these are ATHs. However, it is important to note that we have seen some serious inflows as well as new users to the platform. Some charts below which are on a ~1-2 day delay

Inflows are back to ATHs with a significant uptick lately and new users continue to grow and accelerate at ~2,000 users per day -- a much higher rate than all of 2024

7-day is likely a good barometer for continued fees for the forseeable future

30-day is likely understated due to a large decline over the holidays, as well as prior NK fud

7-day multiples imply a 7.01x P/E on circulating and a 13.00x P/E on fully diluted adjusted. As mentioned, I personally think somewhere in between these two is the appropriate # to use. I'll call this the blended P/E multipleImage
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Dec 11, 2024
(1/10) Hyperliquid Thread 🧵

One thing I haven’t seen discussed on my timeline yet is the monopolistic nature of exchanges, and what that means for $HYPE.

Quite simply: more users = more liquidity. More liquidity = better product. Better product = more usersImage
(2/10) More users also means more mindshare and free marketing, which turns into even more users.

This is an endless flywheel and we have seen it before with the top CEX’s. Image
(3/10) Let's review how Hyperliquid got here and how the flywheel will continue to scale:

Hyperliquid’s UI/UX is the best among perp DEX’s, bar none. I’d say it’s actually better than every single CEX out there with the exception of Binance. Quite an amazing feat. The interface is smooth, simple to navigate, easy on the eyes, it has nice trading features, and most importantly -- there is 0 latency whatsoever even during the most tumultuous times

Hyperliquid’s liquidity is excellent. This can be attributed to their HLP MM vault (an unbelievable product), its user base being real - with users that do a lot of volume, and its market-maker friendliness. Gas-less, instantaneous transactions, with good API/SDKs, allow for MM’s to comfortably quote tight spreads

Bonus: the fees are incredibly cheap
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