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Aug 10 6 tweets 2 min read Read on X
My previous post argued that the economy is on the precipice of recession. How will we know if we are in one? Historically, it's not clear-cut until well after the fact. The pandemic was one time that it was. Even then, there were deniers claiming that the recession calls were politically motivated.
A group of academics at the NBER is the arbiter of when recessions begin and end. While they look at a plethora of data to make this determination, most importantly, far and away, is payroll employment. If employment declines for more than a month consecutively, we are in a downturn.
Payroll employment hasn’t declined yet this time around, but it has barely grown since May. And given that the recent revisions to the jobs numbers have been consistently lower, much lower, it wouldn’t be surprising if we learn with the coming revisions that employment is already declining.
Also telling is that employment is declining in many industries. In the past, if more than half the ≈400 industries in the payroll survey were shedding jobs, we were in a recession. In July, over 53% of industries were cutting jobs, and only healthcare was adding meaningfully to payrolls.
Of course, the unemployment rate has only edged up a bit and is still low. But, unemployment is a lagging indicator and given that the labor force has gone sideways this year as the number of foreign-born workers is declining, unemployment will be a particularly poor barometer of recession.
Also note that a recession is defined by a persistentdecline in jobs – the decline lasts for at least a few months. We aren’t there yet, and we are thus not in recession. Things could still turn around if the economic policies weighing on the economy soon lift. But that looks increasingly unlikely.

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Jul 31
Global investors anticipate two rate cuts from the Fed this year and more next year. This is a reasonable forecast and consistent with my baseline, but I don’t hold it with any confidence. It is increasingly likely the Fed will sit on its hands and not change monetary policy in 2025.
Given the mounting tariffs, inflation, which is already meaningfully above the Fed’s 2% target, will significantly accelerate. The core consumer expenditure deflator is up 2.8% over the year through June, and given the tariffs will be closer to 4% by next spring.
While inflation expectations remain tame (at least the bond market measures of expectations), they will likely increase as actual inflation picks up, making it difficult for the Fed to conclude that the tariff-induced price increases are a one-off and won’t persist.
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Jul 28
A ton of economic data comes out this week, and the storyline will be that growth has slowed sharply so far this year. GDP will grow 2.8% in the 2nd quarter, but this is a tariff-induced bounce from the 0.5% decline in the 1st. First-half growth will be less than half of last year’s nearly 3% gain.
Cautious consumers are largely behind the slowdown. Real consumer spending has gone nowhere since the end of last year, and with the release of the June data this week, we will see that consumers are still on the sidelines. And this is before the tariff-related price increases kick into full swing.
We’ll also get a read on inflation with the release of the June PCE deflator, the inflation measure the Fed uses to set its 2% target. We anticipate a 0.3% increase in core inflation, putting year-over-year growth at 2.7%. That’s above target, and given the tariffs, the direction of travel is clear.
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Jul 13
I sent off a yellow flare on the housing market in a post a couple of weeks ago, but I now think a red flare is more appropriate. Home sales, homebuilding, and even house prices are set to slump unless mortgage rates decline materially from their current near 7% soon. That, however, seems unlikely.Image
Home sales are already uber depressed, but homebuilders providing rate buydowns had been propping sales up. They are giving up. It’s simply too expensive. A big tell is that many builders are delaying their land purchases from the land banks. New home sales, starts, and completions will soon fall.
House price growth had held up well. But this, too, is changing, as prices have gone sideways and are set to fall. 7% is hammering demand, and there are more listings. Given their demographic and job situations, locked-in homeowners must move. They can only work around these needs for so long.
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Jun 2
Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac’s fate is back under debate, 15 years after entering conservatorship. Their stock prices are up, but what’s next for the GSEs? Here’s a breakdown of the most likely scenarios over the next few years, their probabilities, and their impact on mortgage rates:
Scenario 1 - Status Quo (50%): GSEs remain in conservatorship. Mortgage rates won’t change. The system works well as-is, with risks already shifted to private investors via credit risk transfers. No legislation is needed, and there’s little incentive to disrupt what’s already functioning smoothly.
Scenario 2 - Release w/ Implicit Guarantee (35%): GSEs would operate like they did pre-2008, but with better capital buffers. Mortgage rates would rise +20–40 bps as investors worry about long-term stability. While it’s more likely than other reforms, memories of the financial crisis make this politically sensitive.
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Apr 21
The Trump administration’s policies are set to severely diminish the economy, not only for the next few months but for years. The administration’s trade war is undermining the global safe-haven status of the U.S., which has provided incalculable benefits, including our economy’s exceptionalism.Image
Safe-haven status means that global investors know that if they invest in the U.S., in a Treasury bond or anything else, their investments’ value won’t be upended by a capricious government; laws and regulations are transparent, and while they may change, only after deliberation and due process.
The Trump administration’s tariffs and resulting global trade war with foes and allies alike have blown our nation’s safe-haven status to smithereens. The tariffs are not deliberate but based on a Mickey Mouse formula. And there is no process other than the whims of one man.
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Mar 24, 2024
The runup in stock and house prices since the pandemic is eye-popping. Stocks are up 60% and homes 50%. Household net worth has swelled by $300k per household. While only 2/3 of households are benefiting, this is big money and a big part of the U.S. economy’s current success. Image
The record stock and house prices reflect the strong economy and in turn power it. This works through the so-called wealth effect – wealthier households are able and willing to save less and spend more. Indeed, stalwart consumer spending has driven the economy’s growth.
Surging household wealth and buoyant consumers distinguishes the U.S. from elsewhere in the world. This goes a long way to explaining why American consumers have been willing to draw down the excess saving they accumulated in the pandemic and consumers in other countries haven’t.
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