The first kind of retard uses AI everywhere, even where it shouldn’t be used.
The second kind of retard sees AI everywhere, even where it isn’t used.
Usually, it’s obvious what threads are and aren’t AI-written.
But some people can’t tell the difference between normal writing and AI writing. And because they can’t tell the difference, they’ll either overuse AI…or accuse others of using AI!
What we actually may need are built-in statistical AI detectors for every public text field. Paste in a URL into an archive.is-like interface and get back the probability that any div on the page is AI-generated.
In general my view is that AI text shouldn’t be used raw. It’s like a search engine result, it’s lorem ipsum. Useful for research but not final results. AI code is different, but even that requires review. AI visuals are different still, and you can sometimes use them directly.
We’re still developing these conventions, as the tech itself is of course a moving target. But it is interesting that even technologists (who see the huge time-savings that AI gives for, say, data analysis or vibe coding) are annoyed by AI slop. Imagine how much the people who don’t see the positive parts of AI may hate AI.
TLDR: slop is the new spam, and we’ll need new tools and conventions to defeat it.
I agree email spammers will keep adapting.
But I don’t know if a typical poster will keep morphing their content in such a way.
AI prompting scales, because prompting is just typing.
But AI verifying doesn’t scale, because verifying AI output involves much more than just typing.
Sometimes you can verify by eye, which is why AI is great for frontend, images, and video. But for anything subtle, you need to read the code or text deeply — and that means knowing the topic well enough to correct the AI.
Researchers are well aware of this, which is why there’s so much work on evals and hallucination.
However, the concept of verification as the bottleneck for AI users is under-discussed. Yes, you can try formal verification, or critic models where one AI checks another, or other techniques. But to even be aware of the issue as a first class problem is half the battle.
For users: AI verifying is as important as AI prompting.
I love everything @karpathy has done to popularize vibe coding.
But then after you prototype with vibe coding, you need to get to production with right coding.
And that means AI verifying, not just AI prompting. That’s easy when output is visual, much harder when it’s textual.
@karpathy The question when using AI is: how can I inexpensively verify the output of this AI model is correct?
We take for granted the human eye, which is amazing at finding errors in images, videos, and user interfaces.
But we need other kinds of verifiers for other domains.
Democracy is creating startup cities.
Moving to Starbase was voting with feet.
Building up Starbase was voting with wallet.
And incorporating Starbase was voting with ballot.
This is the future of democracy.
Not a two-party system with the illusion of choice.
Instead, a 1000-city system with the reality of choice.
This thread from @dpoddolphinpro has details on the new city limits & vote results. Elon's side won 212-6.
This is 97% democracy, rather than the 51% democracy of the legacy system. Because everyone who moved to Starbase was already spiritually aligned.
Ironically, one symptom of deindustrialization is that many commenters have never actually managed a physical business.
So. Suppose your US company imports $1M of high quality parts, and adds in its own components to produce finished goods sold for $1.2M per batch. Your gross profit is $200k per batch.
But wait! Suddenly a new 30% tariff is imposed on that $1M of parts. You now have to fork over $300k to customs before you sell anything. That’s cash you probably don’t have. Oh, and even if you do sell everything, you’re now losing $100k per batch.
With a sinking feeling, you realize your profitable business which you somehow managed to keep in America all these years has suddenly become unprofitable.
You post online about how bad this is but get shouted down by an angry mob, convinced that capitalists like you should die. You can’t tell nowadays if they’re on left or right.
Moreover, you don’t have the time, money, skills, or tools in house to build that $1M of parts yourself. You are being asked to do the equivalent of growing a maple tree when all you needed was a little maple syrup. So now you are faced with several tough choices.
(1) First, you may need to go into debt or fire people to quickly come up with the $300k in cash to pay for these surprise tariffs at customs. Even if the tariff might go away, it might not, so you have to get the cash somehow or risk having your shipment impounded.
(2) Next, you might need to reduce quality to stop losing $100k on each batch. You could order the lower quality $750k parts, grimace and pay 30% tariff at customs, and hope you can build and sell for the same price of $1.2M per batch despite the lower quality.
(3) Alternatively, you could keep the quality parts at $1M and instead raise prices to $1.5M per batch to get back your original margins of $200k per batch, which you need to pay employees after all. But that’s a big hike that your customer will probably not welcome, given that he’s likely dealing with his own tariff shock.
So: these tariffs don’t really give an incentive to build in the US. Because it’s far more expensive to build a screw factory than to pay even high tariffs on a foreign screw.
Instead what they likely mean is debt, layoffs, lower quality, and higher prices for any US company that buys parts abroad.
Just to understand how common that is:
Ok, say you do.
It’s a 25% hike to go from $1.2M to $1.5M. You will lose customers. Maybe a lot. Maybe they go out of business at that price too.
Moreover, you aren’t making more money. That extra $300k is going straight to Uncle Sam. It’s a tax on the manufacturing sector.