Overview of the ACIP Meeting on September 18-19, 2025
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) held its virtual meeting on September 18-19, 2025, focusing on updates to vaccine recommendations, particularly those affecting pediatric and adult immunization schedules. The committee, recently reconstituted under Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., reviewed evidence on measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella (MMRV) vaccines, hepatitis B (Hep B) vaccines, and 2024-2025 COVID-19 vaccine implementation. Votes occurred primarily on Day 1 (September 18), with some deferred to Day 2. Discussions highlighted tensions between evidence-based safety data from CDC experts and skepticism from some ACIP members, leading to notable disarray, including confusion over vote wording and rationales.
The outcomes primarily impact pediatric vaccine schedules, emphasizing shared clinical decision-making (individualized risk-benefit discussions) over universal recommendations. No major changes were finalized for adult schedules on Day 1, though COVID-19 discussions continued. These recommendations, if adopted by the CDC Director, influence insurance coverage (e.g., no-cost sharing under the Affordable Care Act), Vaccines for Children (VFC) program eligibility, and pharmacy administration authority. However, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) stated that all ACIP-recommended immunizations as of September 1, 2025, will remain covered without changes, potentially buffering immediate access disruptions. Some states have also signaled they may not follow revised ACIP guidance.
Key Outcomes on Vaccine Schedules 1. MMRV Vaccine (Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and Varicella)
• Background: The combined MMRV vaccine (e.g., ProQuad) is currently recommended as an option for the first dose at 12-47 months to reduce injections, but ACIP has long advised separate MMR and varicella vaccines for the first dose due to a slightly elevated risk of febrile seizures (temporary, non-life-threatening events peaking at 14-18 months). Evidence presented showed the risk is about 1 extra seizure per 2,300-3,000 doses, with no long-term harm.
• Vote Outcome (September 18): ACIP voted to withdraw the recommendation for MMRV as the first dose in children under 2 years, mandating separate MMR and varicella vaccines instead. This passed by majority vote (exact tally not specified in real-time reports, but described as clear).
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• Rationale: Members cited seizure risks and “precautionary” concerns, despite CDC data affirming overall safety and efficacy. Some members expressed confusion over the data, questioning why the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) supports the combined option.
• Impact on Schedule:
• Pediatric schedule now requires two separate shots for the first dose (at 12-15 months), potentially increasing visits, costs, and hesitancy. MMRV remains an option for the second dose (at 4-6 years).
• Could reduce varicella (chickenpox) vaccination uptake, risking outbreaks and subsequent shingles surges in adults.
• VFC Coverage Vote: A follow-up resolution to adjust VFC funding for separate vaccines passed narrowly (1 yes, 8 no, 3 abstain to a proposed change), preserving current funding levels but sparking debate over interpretation—members post-vote asked for clarification on what they had approved.
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Broader Implications: Critics, including public health experts, argue this erodes trust and access, especially for low-income families reliant on VFC. AAP has indicated it may issue its own schedule, diverging from ACIP.
2. Hepatitis B Vaccine (Birth Dose)
• Background: Universal Hep B vaccination at birth (within 24 hours) has been standard since 1991 to prevent perinatal transmission, with >90% effectiveness in preventing chronic infection. Risks are minimal (e.g., no increased adverse events in neonates). The draft vote language proposed allowing the first dose at 1 month for infants of Hep B-negative mothers via shared decision-making.
• Vote Outcome: Deferred to September 19 due to ongoing debate. No final decision today, but discussions leaned toward relaxing the universal birth-dose mandate.
• Rationale: Some members questioned necessity for low-risk infants, citing transmission primarily via sex/needles later in life, despite evidence of undetected maternal infections and household risks. CDC experts emphasized the birth dose’s role in equity and outbreak prevention.
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• Potential Impact on Schedule (if approved tomorrow):
• Shift to 1-month minimum for low-risk infants, with birth dose retained only for high-risk cases (e.g., Hep B-positive mothers).
• Could increase Hep B incidence by 20-30% in unvaccinated infants, per modeling, disproportionately affecting underserved communities. Also exceeds ACIP’s scope by implying routine maternal testing, which isn’t ACIP’s purview.
• Broader Implications: If passed, this would mark the first major rollback of a core pediatric schedule element, potentially raising costs and access barriers if not covered as “routine.”
3. COVID-19 Vaccines (2024-2025 Updates)
• Background: Current schedule recommends mRNA vaccines (e.g., updated Pfizer/Moderna for KP.2 strain) for ages 6 months+, with Novavax as an alternative for 12+. Focus was on implementation, including pediatric access and non-mRNA options.
• Vote Outcome: No votes today; discussions centered on mRNA efficacy/safety data. A workgroup presentation emphasized mRNA platforms, alleviating concerns over Novavax access. Votes expected September 19.
• Rationale: Debates included booster timing and age thresholds (e.g., potential raise from 65+ to 75+ for routine flu/COVID combos), with members probing data on comorbidities in 65-74-year-olds.
• Impact on Schedule: Likely minor tweaks, such as clarified shared decision-making for children 6-17. Advocacy pushes for expanded Novavax in pediatrics amid mRNA “failures” (e.g., waning immunity).
• Broader Implications: In a politically charged environment, outcomes could influence adult uptake, but AHIP’s coverage pledge mitigates short-term changes.
Conclusion
Context and Reactions
This ACIP, with seven new members appointed by Kennedy (some vaccine-skeptical), faced criticism for perceived ideology over science—e.g., members repeatedly questioning settled data. Public comments (30 minutes allocated) urged evidence-based decisions, while liaisons like AAP boycotted workgroups in protest. Experts warn of downstream effects: lower immunization rates, outbreaks (e.g., measles up 20% in 2024), and eroded trust. The meeting webcast revealed “remarkable disarray,” with post-vote confusion underscoring rushed processes.
For full details, watch the archived webcast on CDC’s ACIP site or review slides at cdc.gov/acip/meetings/…. Updates from Day 2 (Hep B and COVID votes) will be posted on ClinicalTrials.gov and MMWR.
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Lyme disease and Long COVID share several overlapping characteristics, particularly in their chronic or persistent forms, as both can lead to prolonged, multisystem symptoms that significantly impact quality of life. Below, I outline the key commonalities based on available medical understanding: 1. Chronic Fatigue: Both conditions often present with profound, debilitating fatigue that doesn’t improve with rest. In Lyme disease, this is a hallmark of post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome (PTLDS), while in Long COVID, it’s commonly referred to as post-exertional malaise or chronic fatigue. 2. Cognitive Dysfunction: Patients with both conditions frequently report “brain fog,” including difficulties with memory, concentration, and mental clarity. In Lyme disease, this is sometimes called Lyme encephalopathy, while in Long COVID, it’s a widely recognized neurological symptom.
3. Musculoskeletal Pain: Persistent joint and muscle pain are common in both. Lyme disease, caused by the Borrelia bacteria, often leads to migratory joint pain or arthritis, while Long COVID patients report myalgia and arthralgia, often without clear inflammation. 4. Neurological Symptoms: Both can involve neurological issues such as headaches, dizziness, and nerve pain (neuropathy). Lyme disease may cause Bell’s palsy or radiculopathy, while Long COVID can lead to similar neuropathic symptoms or autonomic dysfunction like postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS).
5. Autonomic Dysfunction: Both conditions can disrupt the autonomic nervous system, leading to symptoms like heart rate irregularities, blood pressure fluctuations, or intolerance to standing (orthostatic intolerance). POTS is increasingly noted in both Long COVID and chronic Lyme patients. 6. Multisystem Involvement: Both affect multiple organ systems, including the nervous, cardiovascular, and immune systems. Lyme disease can lead to carditis or meningitis in severe cases, while Long COVID may involve cardiovascular complications or persistent respiratory issues. 7. Immune Dysregulation: Both conditions are associated with immune system abnormalities. Lyme disease may trigger autoimmunity or persistent immune activation, while Long COVID is hypothesized to involve immune dysregulation, possibly due to lingering viral components or autoantibodies.
Everyone keeps talking about developing an app for #LongCovid & I would hate for anyone to recreate the wheel. Are you looking to track symptoms, recovery, treatment, exercise, vitals, pacing, sleep (or lack of), diet and/or sleep? Maybe a few of these designers could collaborate. 🤷♀️
I currently track my data/stats with 𝙐𝙣𝙝𝙞𝙙𝙚, 𝙈𝙮𝘿𝙖𝙩𝙖𝙃𝙚𝙡𝙥𝙨, 𝙎𝙘𝙧𝙞𝙥𝙥𝙨, CDC Surveys (and bloodwork) & don 2 wearable devices. I love contributing to Science. 😃
I've compiled a list of the top 20 apps used by #LongCovid patients in hopes we might encourage collaboration or select all of the best features and/or formats to create THE all-encompassing interactive app/database for our community, our caregivers & doctors in realtime.
Which apps do you find helpful?
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• Visible: A pacing and symptom-tracking app tailored for Long COVID and ME/CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome). It uses smartphone camera-based heart rate variability (HRV) measurements, symptom logging, and activity data to help users avoid overexertion (post-exertional malaise). Features include daily “pace scores,” trend analysis, breathing exercises, and optional integration with wearables for all-day monitoring. It emphasizes rest over fitness, with reports for sharing with doctors. Available on iOS and Android; free basic version, premium subscription for advanced features.
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• Long COVID Companion: A voice-based app from the Luxembourg Institute of Health for people with Long COVID. It acts as a daily companion to track symptoms, treatments, progress, quality of life, & health metrics over time. Users can log data verbally for ease, with features for pattern recognition and sharing with clinicians. Free on iOS & Android.
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**COVID-19 can induce lupus**
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(systemic lupus erythematosus, SLE) through several immune system mechanisms, especially in genetically predisposed individuals:
**Immune System Hyperactivation:**
COVID-19 triggers a strong immune response. The virus can cause excessive activation of B-cells (antibody-producing cells) and promote overproduction of interferons, both of which are implicated in lupus pathogenesis. This abnormal activation may lead to the immune system mistakenly attacking healthy body tissues—a hallmark of lupus.
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**Production of Autoantibodies:**
COVID-19 has been found to stimulate the immune system in a way that leads to the formation of autoantibodies (antibodies that target the body’s own proteins. Autoantibodies such as antinuclear antibodies & lupus anticoagulant are commonly associated with lupus & have been detected in some COVID-19 patients.
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**Triggering Disease in Susceptible Hosts:**
Environmental factors like viral infections—including SARS-CoV-2—have long been recognized as possible triggers for new-onset lupus & lupus flare-ups, particularly in people with a genetic predisposition. Wooohoo 😣
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For ongoing long COVID patients, the top three reasons to consider a PET scan are:
1.Detecting Hidden Inflammation and Organ Damage
PET scans, especially when combined with MRI (PET/MRI), can reveal persistent inflammation in the heart, lungs, and other organs—even when standard tests appear normal. This helps identify patients at risk for future cardiopulmonary complications such as heart failure, pulmonary hypertension, or valvular disease.
Identifying Brain and Nervous System Involvement
PET scans (such as brain FDG-PET) can uncover hypometabolism or inflammation in the brain, which may explain cognitive, neurological, or autonomic symptoms in long COVID patients. This is particularly valuable for distinguishing long COVID from other neurological or psychiatric disorders.
Tracking Viral Persistence and Immune Activation
Specialized PET imaging agents can help detect viral reservoirs and ongoing immune activation in deep tissues, such as the gut or brainstem. This approach may clarify the underlying cause of persistent symptoms and guide personalized treatment strategies.
These reasons highlight how PET imaging can provide objective evidence of ongoing disease processes, support early intervention, and help tailor management for long COVID patients.
It does sound ‘over the top’ & who wants to believe we are letting our kids get repeated Cov infections potentially destroying their organs.
The tragedy of it all- we knew in 2020. Ask teachers if they see a difference in behavior, mood, memory recall, a dramatic increase in ADHD, and most importantly, look at the test scores and how they have plummeted long after a 3 month lockdown 6 yrs ago.
COVID-19 has been linked to potential dementia risk in young people through mechanisms involving direct neurological damage, vascular changes, and systemic inflammation. Below are key studies and findings that explore this connection:
1. Systemic Vascular and Neurological Pathways**
A 2021 review highlighted COVID-19’s ability to trigger systemic vascular alterations and neuroinflammation, potentially accelerating neurodegenerative processes. Cognitive decline pathways include blood-brain barrier disruption and hypoxic brain injury, which may exacerbate pre-existing dementia or initiate early-onset cases[1].
2. Long COVID and Neurological Symptoms**
A Northwestern Medicine study (2024) found that 10 months post-infection, young adults (18–44) exhibited worsened neurologic symptoms, including cognitive dysfunction, insomnia, and memory deficits. These effects occurred regardless of initial infection severity[2].