Jack | amatica health Profile picture
Sep 24 23 tweets 4 min read Read on X
🔬❕We found reduced ACE protein levels in the blood of people with Long COVID & ME/CFS.

This could affect blood flow, fluid balance, inflammation, & brain function - potentially relevant to symptoms like orthostatic intolerance, brain fog, & chronic pain.

Let’s break it down. Image
ACE (angiotensin-converting enzyme) plays a key role in blood pressure, fluid balance, and inflammation.

It converts angiotensin I to angiotensin II, and also breaks down bradykinin and substance P - both of which affect pain, blood vessels, and immune signaling. Image
Low ACE in plasma may mean the body can’t break down bradykinin and substance P efficiently. 

These molecules can cause blood vessel leakiness, low blood pressure, inflammation, pain sensitivity, and cognitive symptoms - all seen in ME/CFS and Long COVID.
We measured ACE protein (not activity) using ELISA in platelet-rich plasma from patients with ME/CFS and Long COVID. 

The trend was consistent across two independent runs.
ACE is normally found in the blood as a soluble protein shed from cells that line blood vessels.

If those cells are damaged or not releasing ACE properly, circulating ACE levels can drop.
It’s also possible that platelets are holding on to ACE or failing to release it. 

Platelets have their own local renin-angiotensin system. 

If their behavior is altered in these illnesses, it could affect how much ACE ends up in the plasma.
We also know from past research that serum ACE activity (a related but different measure) is often low in acute COVID-19 and is linked to worse outcomes, higher inflammation, and poor immune responses.
Reduced ACE levels in Long COVID and ME/CFS could be a lingering effect of viral or immune injury to the vascular system. 

Or it could reflect long-term changes in gene expression, protein shedding, or clearance.
What happens downstream when ACE is low?

Bradykinin and substance P may stick around longer, contributing to effects that include some common in both conditions:

- Low blood pressure

- Dizziness when standing

- Brain fog

- Pain

- Edema

- Inflammation
ACE also helps regulate the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system (RAAS), which controls salt, water, and blood pressure. 

If ACE is low, angiotensin II and aldosterone may also be low.

This is because ACE converts AngI into AngII
This fits into some findings in previous ME/CFS studies showing low aldosterone and renin, despite low blood volume and cardiac output.

However, the previous research shows some people with ME/CFS or Long COVID may also show high angiotensin II (Ang II).
This may seem contradictory but can happen when other enzymes (like chymase) are producing Ang II outside of the usual ACE pathway.
In that case, you may have both high Ang II and low ACE activity at the same time. 

That could create a situation where blood vessels constrict (Ang II) and leak (bradykinin) - pulling the system in two directions at once.
This could potentially explain why some patients experience fluctuations: 

sometimes lightheaded and volume-depleted, other times flushed or hypertensive, sometimes both. 

The body’s signaling is unbalanced across multiple pathways. But more research is needed to confirm.
We can determine if there is a correlation between ACE and AngII when we receive the AngII results in the coming weeks.
Low ACE also affects neuropeptides. 

For example, it helps clear substance P, which contributes to inflammation and amplifies pain.

If ACE is down, substance P may accumulate and contribute to fatigue, hypersensitivity, and brain fog.
In the central nervous system, substance P can trigger neuroinflammation, activate immune cells in the brain, and worsen cognitive symptoms. 

These effects may persist in a chronic low-ACE state.
Bradykinin and substance P together can increase blood-brain barrier permeability. 

This may allow immune signals to enter the brain more easily and contribute to cognitive and neurological symptoms.
ACE also breaks down Ac-SDKP, a peptide involved in blood formation and fibrosis. 

If ACE is low, Ac-SDKP may rise. 

This could have additional effects on the immune system, inflammation, or tissue remodeling.
Altogether, a low ACE state could lead to:

- Increase bradykinin

- Increase substance P

- Altered angII levels 

- Altered aldosterone

This creates a biological environment that aligns with some symptoms of ME/CFS and Long COVID.
These findings suggest a shift in the balance of key systems that regulate circulation, inflammation, and neuropeptides. 

It could play a part in how viral illness leads to chronic symptoms in susceptible individuals.
This also opens up new questions about the role of the ACE-bradykinin-substance P axis and ACE-AngII conversion in long-term post-viral illness.
Test your ACE here, alongside 30 other markers & see how you fit into the research:

amaticahealth.com/me-cfs-long-co…Image

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Jack | amatica health

Jack | amatica health Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @JackHadfield14

Sep 22
🔬Most people think mast cells are only involved in allergies or rare conditions like MCAS or mastocytosis. That’s incorrect.

Research shows mast cells are active in many diseases, including neurodegenerative, autoimmune, infectious, heart, gut, and mental health conditions🧵 Image
Mast cells sit in tissues like the skin, gut, and around blood vessels and nerves. When triggered, they release a large mix of chemicals: histamine, tryptase, chymase, cytokines (like TNF and IL-6), prostaglandins, and more.

These chemicals affect nearby cells and tissues.
They don’t just respond to allergens. They’re activated by stress, infections, tissue damage, antibodies, and even certain hormones.

Once activated, they can increase inflammation, damage tissue, recruit other immune cells, and change blood vessel function.
Read 25 tweets
Sep 20
🧵 T cell exhaustion - possibly one of the drivers of chronic infections in Long COVID & ME/CFS.

What is it, what genes are involved, and how we can gain insights with available testing.

Let’s break it down. 🧵 Image
T cells are immune cells that normally help fight infections and cancer.

But when T cells are exposed to a threat for too long - like a virus or tumor that doesn’t go away - they can enter a state called “exhaustion.”
Exhausted T cells (Tex) don’t die, but they stop working properly.

They lose their ability to kill infected or cancerous cells.

They stop multiplying.

They start expressing signals that suppress the immune system.
Read 25 tweets
Sep 17
Started exploring EBV RNA markers in our @amaticahealth ME/CFS & Long COVID RNA-seq cohort.

Focused on EBNA1, which is typically expressed during EBV latency.

Will explain in simple terms below, but really cool possible finding and shows the utility of having all mRNA 🧵 Image
EBNA1 was unexpectedly low in many ME/CFS samples. Our 3 controls showed higher levels, which is more in line with what you’d expect if EBV is active (without context).

Important caveat: we only have 3 controls right now, so this difference could shift with more data.
EBNA1 being low could suggest low EBV activity or absence of reactivation

But that interpretation assumes cellular context is normal (how many B cells are in the sample is normal).
Read 16 tweets
Sep 17
🔬 A new study sheds light on why people with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME) experience post-exertional crashes and brain fog.

It focuses on a blood protein called haptoglobin (Hp) and how its different genetic forms affect symptoms. 🧵 Image
ME is a chronic illness where even minor physical or mental effort can cause days of worsened symptoms - called post-exertional malaise (PEM).

This study explored how the body’s response to stress might be linked to the haptoglobin protein.
The study involved two groups of ME patients (total n=140) and healthy sedentary controls (n=44).

Researchers tested how their blood proteins changed after a 90-minute low-effort stress challenge using a limb pressure device.
Read 22 tweets
Sep 17
🔬 A new study looked at RNA inside the spinal fluid of women with neuropsychiatric Long COVID (brain fog, etc) to understand what’s going wrong in the brain.

Let’s break it down 🧵

You can also test your RNA in blood here:

amaticahealth.com/me-cfs-long-co…Image
Researchers compared immune gene activity (RNA) in spinal fluid (CSF) and blood from women with Long COVID vs. women who had COVID but recovered fully.

They wanted to see if immune changes in the brain were different from those in the rest of the body.
The big picture: gene activity in the spinal fluid was clearly different in Long COVID patients.

Different changes were seen in the blood.
Read 22 tweets
Sep 16
🔬 A large genetic study just found links between specific immune receptor variants (called KIR alleles) and ME/CFS.

And into DecodeME findings.

Simplified breakdown 🧵 Image
ME/CFS is a disabling disease that affects energy, memory, sleep, and physical function.

Many cases begin after an infection.

Its biological causes are not completely known, but immune system problems - especially involving NK cells - are a main theory.
We @amaticahealth have also found raised NKG2A & TIGIT (suppressive markers on NK cells & hinder immune response)

You can get info on your NK cell function via testing:
amaticahealth.com/me-cfs-long-co…Image
Image
Read 24 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us!

:(