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We will be live tweeting from the employment tribunal of Maria Kelly v Leonardo UK (L), due to start at noon. She alleges harassment, direct & indirect discrimination.
L, a leading aerospace company, has a policy permitting employees to use toilets accord to their gender identity.
A reminder that we post what we hear in good faith but do not provide a verbatim report.
Abbreviations:
C or MK - Claimant, Maria Kelly
NC - Naomi Cunningham, barrister for C
KW - Katy Wedderburn, solicitor for C
R or L - Respondent. Leonardo UK
ST - Susanne Tanner KC, barrister for R
J - Judge
P - Panel member
GC - gender critical
GI - gender identity
Apologies - we are still waiting to be let into the remote hearing room from the waiting room.
We are still in the waiting room and being told the parties are still in a private meeting. As it is approaching lunchtime we may not have a public session for some time, but we'll keep you informed when we know anything concrete.
We are now waiting in the virtual hearing room. The clerk has posted the following:
"The hearing is currently still dealing with case management matters and the hearing should be starting fairly soon".
We've just had another message from the clerk:
"Dear all the hearing has been adjourned till 10am tomorrow. there will be no hearing today"

We will be reporting again tomorrow for the duration of the case, which is due to last the rest of this week.
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Oct 2
This is the second morning session of Maria Kelly v Leonardo UK.
The sound from the courtroom is often very bad. We apologise for the fact that we will inevitably miss some parts.
[New witness takes oath]
J Counsel will use phrases c t ppl as discuss]
STName
AR Andrew Russell Letton. Known as Andy R in workplace.
ST VP for People [+ ?] Services Leonardo
ST What is a home site
AR Where are you contracted
ST Any ppl have home site and also travel. Flexible co policy to also work from home.
AR Yes, esp c covid.
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Oct 2
Good morning. We are tweeting from the employment tribunal of Maria Kelly v Leonardo UK.
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Maria Kelly is employed by Leonardo UK. She alleges harassment, and direct and indirect discrimination. Leonardo, a leading aerospace company, has a policy permitting employees to use toilets in accord with their gender identity.
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Oct 1
Continuing the pm session of Kelly/Leonardo
[apologies, feed dropped.]
MK After a couple of months i spoke to ..

ST You wrote to Jill ?Nairn in June.

MK My line manager came back and said didn't have a response so I asked him to escalate it to his own LM

ST Robin escalates it. You are told by Robin after c 2 months he doesn't have answer
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Oct 1
This is part of of the first day of public hearing in Maria Kelly vs Leonardo UK.
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Part 1 of this afternoon's session is here
Our substack page about the case is here
tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/kelly-vs-leo…
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Oct 1
Good afternoon - this is the afternoon of day 2 (the first day of public hearings) in the case of Maria Kelly vs Leonardo UK at employment tribunal. Image
Our substack page on the case, with links to the morning's evidence and our abbreviations list and other information is here tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/kelly-vs-leo…
We expect the hearing to begin in a few minutes. Maria Kelly is still giving her main evidence, questioned by her barrister Naomi Cunningham.
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Oct 1
Day 2 morning 2 session of the employment tribunal of Maria Kelly v Leonardo UK (L).

The first session can be found here

The sound is a little challenging, but court plans to resume at 12:20.
We resume.
NC - page 47 tell us about the route from new desk to the toilets.
MK - entrance to all 3 toilets, are on N side of block, access, M and F. I would go N then E to the main block, not aware of men using. Or if need privacy NE of ladies is a double door.
J - clarifies
MK - other door into the cafe, follow wall line round, to left of cupboard when secret loo is.
NC - talked about it being hard to talk about at work, is L neutral on this?
MK - think the company does take a stance, Pride network was the first network. Gender network too, see
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