Thread by @SteB777

What I was trying to do with this thread, is to illustrate, how all those who deny the existential threat to our civilization, from the climate and ecological crisis, are in some form of ideologically motivated denial.
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https://twitter.com/SteB777/status/1979358245702836426

As I point out, ALL, not some, who attack environmentalists and climate activists as alarmists, because there is no scientific evidence, for the threat to our civilization by the climate crisis, are being intellectually dishonest.
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There's no scientific evidence, for the very obvious reason, that there has never been any scientific study of the risk of civilian collapse, being induced by climate and ecological impacts. If critics of this were honest, they would acknowledge this.

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I have been blocked at least 4-5 times, by the climate scientist, Dr Michael Mann, and others of his ilk, for simply pointing out, that he is not taking into account, impacts from biodiversity collapse. I have clear evidence he has done this, for this reason.
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Such people, are for ideological reasons, in total denial of the threats from the climate and ecological crisis. They will make intellectually dishonest statements, claiming there is no scientific evidence for this, whilst refusing to acknowledge why this is.
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The very clear reason for the lack of scientific evidence, for the threat of civilization collapse, is that this has never been the subject of any scientific study, to see if this was a possibility.

This itself, should be a huge worry, that there is no research.
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The very obvious reason for the lack of scientific research into whether the economic growth, capitalist economic model, is an existential threat to our civilization, is because of a quasi-religious belief in economic growth and capitalism.
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In other words, those who believe in economic growth and capitalism, for ideological reasons, refuse to consider the possible implications of this, because of their ideology. Those who have this position, accuse those like me, of ideological bias.
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However, as I am tired of pointing out, I am not ideologically motivated, because I reject the very idea of ideology i.e. a set of beliefs, about how society should be, and that claims to already know all the answers.
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My argument, is simply that it is impossible to know all the problems and solutions, without further research and evaluation, and therefore, all ideologies are fraudulent, in claiming to have knowledge, that they clearly lack.
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My very reasonable and rational approach to this matter, is to say, okay, if you insist that economic growth and capitalism, is not an existential threat to our civilization, then at the very least, let us research and investigate this.
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The fact, that this has never been the subject of any serious scientific research, ever, says that those who run our societies, and have all the power and wealth, are quasi-religious fanatics, who refuse to let their article of faith, be examined in a rational way.
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Remember, we are not talking of a question, such as whether there is a god, and what are their intentions and plans, which for reasons I won't go into here, can't be tested. That we can easily test the long term viability of economic growth and capitalism.
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All we have to do, to test out the long term viability, sustainability of economic growth/capitalism, is to examine the trends this economic has put us on, then to play this out with modelling, to model what the long term impacts are, of pursuing this economic model.
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As I keep pointing out, less than 20% of the global population, currently engage in the high consumption lifestyles, that proponents of economic growth and capitalism, claim to want, the whole of society, to benefit from.
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Therefore, you simply model, what would happen if the 80% of the global population currently not engaging in this high level of consumption, that the less than 20% of the population, mainly in rich countries, engage in.
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The only obvious reason, for failing to research and investigate this, are that those who believe in perpetual economic growth and capitalism, really know very well, that their primary ideological belief, an article of faith, is seriously flawed, and physically impossible.
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That the main motivation for refusing to research and investigate the long term consequences of these unsustainable lifestyles, are because they themselves participate in these high consumption lifestyles, and they don't want to contemplate giving them up, and changing them.
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It's highly irrational, and morally bankrupt. That a minority, engaging in an unsustainable lifestyle, because of personal greed, don't want to look at the long term consequences of their lifestyles, for the whole of humanity, because of vested interest, and personal greed.
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Why for the whole of my life, have I and others like me, have had to be the little boys and girls, that stand up and say, excuse me, but the Emperor is naked. Your illusion/delusion that they are wearing a fine set of clothes, is clearly a false belief. It is that simple.
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I am fairly certain, that once again, those with these irrational beliefs, will refuse to address the clear inconsistencies in their beliefs. The reason I have to restrict responses to my threads, is instead of addressing my points, I will be personally attacked.
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The usual response to my arguments for 50 years years, has been to personally attack me, using the ad hominem logical fallacy, rather than to address the clear inconsistencies, in the prevailing paradigms of our modern culture.
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The reason for this becomes very clear when I try to debate this with people. They have got no cogent arguments, to address the clear inconsistencies, in their beliefs, therefore, personal attack, is the only option.
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