This is the second session of the afternoon on Day 3 of the hearing of Bethany Hutchison and others vs County Durham & Darlington NHS Foundation Trust - "the Darlington Nurses" case. We hope to resume in ten minutes.
J - What we want to understand from media file, June 2024, where was the photo taken
MG -Lisa's back garden
J - Witness bundle page 141 statement, bottom of page para 97 'for example...'
MG we weren't wearing uniform. I know we have scrubs on but they were provided
J - what were they?
MG provided by Daily Mail
J was there any other occasion when photo in nurses uniform, the only one?
MG [didn't catch] sound muffled
J - any more q
-you were asked how long worked at Trust, since summer 2021?
I took time out my father passed away
NF - you said you were with one of the healthcares, did you mean health care assistant?
MG yes
NF - about correspondence July Aug 24. [quotes letters and RH complaint] You said that at this point you found this quite stressful. Could you please go to the second page 53b top box of that. First page 8 August top of page, how you are feeling? Very anxious, not sleeping
..not sleeping' Bit lower down your concerns 'no homelife concerns only to do with work' What is employee assistance programme?
MG - apps you can use. I didn't use that I tended to go on walks, that's how I deal with pressure.
NF - Page 53 last page your statement, you describe medical condition triggered by stress, you were forced to go on sick leave triggered by letters August.
MG - yes
Thank you, no more questions.
J - thank you that completes your evidence.
J - we won't get to another witness and we need to deal with housekeeping.
NF - SC and I discussed we should empty room for witness orders. [missed, sound poor]
J -we are finished for the day in terms of evidence. So legal reps only now?
It's case management now. For rest of those in room we will break, resume 10am Monday.
We we continue on Monday.
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Good afternoon. This is our reporting from the afternoon of day 3 of the hearing of Bethany Hutchison and others vs County Durham & Darlington NHS Foundation Trust - "the Darlington Nurses" case
Abbreviations: C/Ns - Claimants - the Darlington nurses NF - Niazi Fetto KC, barrister for Claimants MP - Michael Phillips, solicitor for claimants
PS - Pavel Stroilov, C’s solicitor, preliminary hearing R/T/Trust - Respondent, County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust SC - Simon Cheetham, KC, barrister for respondents J/REJ - Regional Employment Judge Robertson
J I want to understand something you said, about the outcome, what you are hoping for from HR meeting. A 3rd space for Rose...' yes? So on those things, as for the 3rd space the one made available in July 24. that had been made avail for Rose, was that satifactory
CH - As long as CR for Rose
J don't object if near to yours
CH no
J - discusses diagram bundle 2, 2083, ward/dept layout. what you were saying was you saw RH come through double doors walk down and turn (ortho office) then the theatres, then would walk to doors and back for no reason.
J it's not easy to read
CH no it's blurry.
J theatres? [there is discussion about location of double doors.]
CH can't see it, too small
SC - turn in witness statement bundle p73
SC - para 18 section 'raising concerns' you say you talked about talking to your mother, you raised the issue with AQ?
CH - no
SC - I also mentioned to CG do you know when you raised with Mrs Hutchinson?
'I spoke to CG after off with anxiety 2024'
We will be live tweeting Day 3 of evidence from the hearing of Ms B Hutchison & others v County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust being held at Newcastle Employment Tribunal. We anticipate a 9.30 start but delays are not unusual
A group of nurses from Darlington Memorial Hospital, are bringing this ET against their employers alleging sexual harassment and sex discrimination.
It concerns the Trust’s policy of allowing a male colleague, identifying as a woman named Rose Henderson, to use the female changing room.
SC now explaining that each witness involves some elements of repetition. And discussing with the Judge the length of time for the next witness, expected to be Jane Peveller.
SC - I will be an hour with JP, I cannot see that I will be more than an hour or an hour and half with any of the other Cs, so, if JP gives evidence tomorrow we can get through her and 3 other witnesses.
J - an earlier start tomorrow may be a better answer.