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We will be reporting the afternoon session of day 9 of evidence of the hearing of Ms B Hutchison & others v County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust being held at Newcastle Employment Tribunal.

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We report what we hear in good faith but do not provide a verbatim transcript of proceedings

Apologies for the confusion in the previous thread due to the temporary absence of sound. The witness was Claire Gregory (CG) but has also been annotated as SG in error at times.

J This is Jody Robinson (JR) next
[JR swears on Bible]
SC [confirms witness statement contents] and asks JR to speak up
NF Your a Band 6
JR I'm a Band 7
NF We've heard re op managers
JR I'm a clinical mger
NF In para 5 of your WS, [reads re training on equality and H&S ta work

NF Did u consider there might be a H&S issue related to RH
JR No
NF U were RHs manager throughout
Yes
NF U used the CR a bit
JR Yes I changed into scrubs like e'one else
NF U say used 4-5 times a week. U mean shifts
Yes, twice each shift

NF U have some experience of using CR at same time as Rose
JR Yes [asked to look at plan and points] In front of the bench
NF Your WS is on p319. Yr familiar w the TITWPP?
Yes. Rose isnt the 1st person in transition in our dept
NF Did u follow this policy with Rose
JR What do u mean

JR She came thru the uni we were aware before she started w us so I didnt follow it myself
NF Rose qualifies in 2022
JR Yes, cld have been either of Jan 23 or Sept 22 but I dont know which
NF In para 18, [reads re never seeing Rose parading around] Where is that parading around from

JR From newspapers I think. It wasnt said in theatres
NF The 26 raised a CX in 2024 that u describe as a petition
JR I've never seen it
NF In 2023 u say y'd heard there was an issue re RH using the CR by the pre-assessment team. Who was this
JR Can only recall Ali Quinn

JR I only recall her name as she changed it. It was Ali Quinn. Alexa raised it w Ali. I don't know her second name
NF How did u respond
JR It was just a brief convo
NF Did u work w Jane Shields? And knew sh'ed raised it
JR Wasnt aware she had

NF What about Radheka, anaes
No
NF U refer to ? meeting. What was said
Prob just asking for advice
NF U say asking for advice from HR but didnt receive any helpful info. what were u told
JR As such a complex sitn cant be fixed straight away. We just wanted assistance

NF Do u recall a mtg after the 26 where ppl asked if they had a problem w Rose in CR
JR No
NF Did u talk to Rose about a soln to this sitn
JR No. Didnt discuss Rose moving at any time, nor Rose raise it w me
NF U refer to a mtg on 29 May 24 w HC, RN Ronnie Nicholson from TU for Rose and others

NF Look at p985 re that meeting. Have you seen this document recently
JR No
NF Take some time to look at it then. Do u recall if u prepared this
JR No I dont think so
NF U say [reads re Rose's contact w the trust] How was it decided HC wld be contact

JR No. Might have been HR. Imagine was from a supportive point of view
NF Thank you Miss Robinson
J We'll have a short break to see if we have any Qs. We'll call for you in about 10 mins.

J We have no further Qs
SC Nor me
J That completes yr evidence. Which means we have an early bath as we say. We'll be back at 10am tomorrow to finish off the witnesses. Then Prof P on Friday. We could have submissions on Monday? [discussions re when to start oral subs]

J You discuss times amongst yourselves
SC Would you be content with Tues morning for submissions?
J Yes. If you emailed them by 9am on Monday and then we hear from you from 10am Tues
SC Will they be time limited? [laughter]
NF I have no problem with that

SESSION ENDS

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