Spending today (yet again) sitting in the court of session listening to the Scottish government discuss its determination that some men should be treated by like women, in one way or another. This time - prisons. I expect to hear much talk “balancing of rights”. But/
As others said, this is a case where an attractive-sounding concept has been introduced into a context where it simply does not belong. Whether we’re talking about rights as moral/ethical, protected in domestic law or international human rights standards…/
there are plenty of times where I don’t have a right to something and “balancing” simply doesn’t come into it. As a trivial example, I don’t have the right to…./
go down to the local primary school sports day and join the races, because of my lifelong hopeless track record of coming first or nostalgia for childhood. No one talks about balancing my exclusion from that, because it would be absurd to think in such terms in the first place…/
At a most serious level, a person who is sleeping on the streets, and whose need for food and shelter is objectively extremely high, has no right to enter your house, sleep there and be fed by you. No one is going to talk about “balancing” rights in that specific context…/
Moving closer to today’s case, there are a lot of men in the prison estate who would be assessed as vulnerable and might well be safer with women, and prefer to be held in the female estate. We wouldn’t talk about “balancing” their rights…./
Well, in fact, it worries me that the government is running arguments that leads exactly to that logical conclusion. However, no one sane would buy that at the moment. Ms Chapman, maybe, might./
And then we come to a small subset of male prisoners, who feel very strongly that they have a special right to be held with women. And some people who hold a particular metaphysical belief about gendered souls, or a “done enough“ philosophy based on appearance, or maybe/
having made a rod for their own back by keeping some of these men in the women’s estate for years, can’t face dealing with moving them out (am I getting close, SPS?), agree with these men. To believe that “balancing rights” is relevant here, you must believe that the assertion/
of entitlement to be treated as a woman creates a right to that. Unlike the assertion that you’d simply be happier or safer in a women’s prison, less at risk of dying if I let you into my house, or more likely to win something if you’re allowed to enter a primary school race./
It is, in other words, very far from a given that there are rights here that needs balancing. And the argument as to why there is would have to be made from very first principles, before “balancing” could be raised at all. Feeling sorry for people, for example, is not enough./
You should feel very sorry for anyone sleeping out in the streets in the current weather. That doesn’t mean I’m going to argue that they have a right of some sort to enter any house and seek shelter. And if you told them they did, you would not be being kind./
“Balancing rights” is irrelevant in today’s case, in my view. But even if you disagree, to argue it at all you without first have to make the argument fully from first principles why there is a right among this subset of men based on their assertion of it./
And if there’s one thing I know for sure that I am not going to hear in court today, or ever, not even incoherently, let alone coherently, it’s the Scottish government making that argument.
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I’ve been chatting to a young woman I know who is involved in guiding. She is happy with the return to a clearly single-sex organisation but other volunteers she respects and likes are upset at the exclusion of pre-pubertal, esp, children. It struck me that Cass/
seems to have passed Girl Guiding by completely. All the messages about social transition apply strongly here. The only reason a little boy is placed in Rainbows or Brownies by his parents is because they’re strongly engaged in a process of social transition of a kid under 11./
I am afraid we still have some way to go convincing a cohort of young women that it is not unkind, and sometimes important, to have spaces just for girls, but from my conversation yesterday, getting these young women who are so concerned about being kind to these little boys/
@Cyclefree2 @Wonkypolicywonk @sacrareleges @bphillipsonMP @ClaireCoutinho I think that they must be looking at s14(9) EA 2006. But the Code's introduction states that it is explicitly about Part 3 and Part 7 EA 2010.
While s149, 153 and 154 are all in Part 11 of EA 2010. /
@Cyclefree2 @Wonkypolicywonk @sacrareleges @bphillipsonMP @ClaireCoutinho Sections 153 and 154 look absolutely irrelevant. S149 is the PSED. There are only a handful of passing references to the PSED in the Code (and those weren't affected by the consultation).
This herring is so red it should be in space, outshining Mars.
@Cyclefree2 @Wonkypolicywonk @sacrareleges @bphillipsonMP @ClaireCoutinho It should be speedily clarified if this is the bit of law the SofS means, because as far as I can see the extent of consultation it *tenuously at most* requires is to show those screen-shotted paras above to the devolved administrations, saying "nothing here has changed."/
I am here to award top marks for Freedom of Information comedy to the Cabinet Office, and perhaps an innovation award too.
A 🧵for your entertainment./
In early July I submitted this self-explanatory FoI request. Note that it includes a request for a copy of a job advert reportedly issued by the Cabinet Office./
On the due date I received the reply below.
In a new move to me, Cabinet Office explained that it needed more time to consider whether it would be in the public interest *neither to confirm nor deny* that they have a copy of.... their own job advert (among other things)./
Before the rally started is what I handed to one of the police on duty. I have his badge number. I asked for it to be given to the most senior officer present. It took some discussion to get him to take it from me, but eventually he took it and separately recorded my details./
Today, I will send it to my MSP, copied to all those who MSPs who I know attended, with all the responses I got to my question here about the impact on those present of the police taking no action./
I will add some of the other things I have seen on here about people’s experience of interacting with officers attendance. I think that’s about as much as I can do, and the ball that goes into the court of what, for want of a better term, I’ll call the system./
Unbelievable. We included a chapter in The Women Who Wouldn’t Wheesht about these kind of allegations. There’s a huge sexism and ageism in the offensive assumption that the only way we could all do what we have is because of access to huge secret funds. Bollocks./
But, as we say in the book, also revealing. People for whom this stuff is a day job, with employment contracts, and six-figure budgets, literally can’t believe that it’s not like that for everybody else.
I have the last few years surrounded by bright, energetic, determined women of all backgrounds with years of campaigning and work experience in all sorts of fields. It’s been the only really positive side of dealing with this stuff.
A short story about this line, given to The Times by the National Library of Scotland (NLS) on 12 August.
A fishy tale of a red herring, but more than that, a red herring with a bit of a whiff.
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The NLS line about reading room is obviously a red herring - as the issue is reversing its the decision to put the book on open shelves in the centenary exhibition, after staff complaints - but even taken on its own terms, it's not what it seems./
Background: NLS is one of the UK's copyright libraries. Publishers are obliged to lodge books they publish with this network. NLS's large physical collection is mostly kept in stacks, and most items have to be ordered up to the reading room./