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@LazarusLong13
Feb 26 • 13 tweets • 6 min read • Read on X
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After reading a study, and reaching for my phone, if the first thing I do is check to see if I have @'d someone in the past?

That's not a good sign.

I have never @'d them, and this is not directed @ them.

But this IS a debunk thread.

And it starts with who.

/1
Study here. Before you read it?

This thread is about providing context. Read the thread, @SalvMattera's comments, AND THEN, read the study.

0/10 from me.

thelancet.com/journals/lanep…
Who paid for it? The Dutch government - who has been spectacularly almost Tegnell-like in their downplaying of LongCovid and masks.

Lead authors are from RIVM, their CDC.

RIVM was antimask even when they FINALLY recommended masks in OCTOBER 2020.

nltimes.nl/2020/10/03/dut…Image
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RIVM's attitude has transferred to the Dutch doctors - the stories of Longhaulers being gaslit there are particularly bad.

Study
bmjopen.bmj.com/content/15/6/e…

Personal story
turningdutch.com/2024/02/28/the…
So, @rivm has a real need to minimize LongCovid. They will look bad, unless they do.

If I was of a Machiavellian mindset, and wanted to wind down a pandemic, what would I do?

We all know the answer over here, but we are an uncouth lot.

No, run a series of studies that just so
happened to find a reduction in LongCovid. Down to 0.0 in this most recent one.

Actually, EVEN NEGATIVE! It's a miracle! Covid cures LongCovid in the Netherlands!

But where did it start in this magical land of no LongCovid? We 1:1 matched 5621 infected to 5621 uninfected participants. The PCC prevalence, estimated as the marginal mean excess prevalence of PCC-related symptoms between infected and uninfected participants, was 0.2% (95% confidence interval: −1.9 to 2.3, p = 0.84) at 90 days, 0.5% (−1.6 to 2.6, p = 0.63) at 180 days, 0.7% (−1.3 to 2.8, p = 0.48) at 270 days, and 0.0% (−2.1 to 2.1, p = 0.99) at 360 days. Excess prevalence of new mild and severe long-term symptoms self-attributed to SARS-CoV-2 between infected and uninfected participants were both elevated at 90 days (mild: 7.2% (5.1–9.2), severe: ...
Study 1 in the series. By the RIVM. For the RIVM.

They found 12.7%.

Here's part of the trick. The symptoms list is only 23 symptoms long.

Y'all know that there are over 200 symptoms on the LongCovid Symptom Roller Coaster, right?

thelancet.com/journals/lance…Image
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And when we look at the latest RIVM study? 23 symptoms.

But they are different symptoms. And yet, the authors of this Magical™️ study say, " See! LongCovid (PCC) has gone down in comparison to those different symptoms."

8-9 are different. How can they make that claim? Image
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They can't.

I could go on all day, but I am tagging @davidtuller1 to see if he wants to do a deeper dive.

In particular, the CIS checklist was used. Fun fact- it was developed by those who think ME/CFS is psychosomatic.

I am not a blue check, so see below. Image
@davidtuller1 .Elon's app cut this off. Here's the rest.

This connects the 2025 VASCO study directly to the same Dutch psychosomatic research tradition that Rosmalen herself likes to play in the mud in.

And David tangled with her, for all of our benefit!

virology.ws/2025/04/04/tri…
@davidtuller1 Good observations here.

@davidtuller1 And good observations here.

I would ask what gives with the RIVM and these studies....but we already know.

@davidtuller1 .The Little Dutch Boy is
@rivm.

Behind the dike is COVID and LongCovid.

There is no Magical™️ study, thinking, wishing, or finger that will hold back that pressure.

Silly RIVM. We see you. We really see you. Image

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May 10
Great article by @EmilyJoshu here.

Emily, there's another article in this that's even more shocking.

The aerosols from milking have long been discussed by many of us on X.

People like myself, @sri_srikrishna, @AbraarKaran have long advocated for comfortable aerosol
protective gear like PAPRs. But, have been ignored by the USDA who, of course, thought it was only contaminated milking gear like the claw.

But there is one more source of aerosols besides cow breath.

The wastewater. When you spray anything you generate huge amounts of Image
aerosols. And that farm wastewater, filled with milk dumped from being full of H5N1, gets reclaimed and reused.

Those milk and wastewater lagoons are on most dairy farms (my grandfather owned a dairy farm).

And there's something you should know.

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May 7
Humanity's hubris vs the precautionary principle.

The virus, ANDV, will do what it will do. Pandemic? History tells us "NO." But history is in the past.

Let me show you what the studies tell us - and why I am livid that the WHO is insisting that surgical masks are ok.

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Incubation time, or how long until symptoms show up?

The high risk time frame is 14–32 days. Not to put too fine a point on that, but that can mean a full month later

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC32…

There have been some out to 8 weeks, but let's ignore those

gov.uk/guidance/andes… Image
Clinical features The most important complication of ANDV infection is HCPS, which is associated with a high mortality rate. Milder illness without significant cardio-respiratory compromise may also be seen. Illness usually develops 2 to 4 weeks following exposure, but incubation periods as early as 4 days and up to 8 weeks have been described.
But, what receptor does the ANDV attach to?

PCDH1 (protocadherin-1) is primarily expressed in the airway epithelium of the respiratory system, especially in the bronchial and nasal epithelial cells, and in pulmonary endothelial cells.

So, that means in the URT and the LRT.
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May 6
@mvankerkhove - a follow-up question on today's press conference.

In this bit, you were thanked for being very clear.

But, you said that the medical personnel taking care of those sick would be wearing PPE.

N95s are not PPE. They are Respiratory Protective Equipment. /1
Surgical masks are PPE.

So, is the WHO advising them to wear surgical masks or N95s/FFP2/KF94/KN95 (respirators)?

Second followup, @mvankerkhove, you referred to "really close contacts"

Close contacts are defined by the WHO as within 3 feet.
Cases 1 & 2 were close contacts.

How did the other cases get it? I realize you cannot possibly have an answer...but you are labeling this as "really close contact" for those cases - as well.

Staterooms are typical 2 person rooms.

It doesn't add up. Image
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Mar 26
I've become a bit of a Dental Nerd after just getting savaged by avoiding the dentist due to COVID.

But, now, I have a Dental Nasal PAPR, know all about Stephan's Curve, use a waterpik, Oral-B iO Series 10, chew 8 pieces of xylitol gum - and the dentist just said that.....
He has never seen anyone reverse course so perfectly before.

"Immaculate."

And bonus...I ran into a fellow masker in his lobby!!

She had never heard of Readimask, so I was super happy to share the Good Word with her.

Sharing the Good Word - not COVID!
Good point.

Read 4 tweets
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Mar 16
Now, this is a very interesting PREPRINT.

We've all heard that shingles vaccination reduces risk of Alzheimer's.

And we all know that Covid increases the risk of Alzheimer's by 50-80%.

What happens when you mix them? Will the vaccination offset a different disease?

/1 Opposing effects of SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 infection and recombinant zoster vaccination on the risk of late-onset Alzheimer disease View ORCID ProfileCarly M. Rose, Shiying Liu, View ORCID ProfileWilliam S. Bush, Jonathan L. Haines, Scott M. Williams, View ORCID ProfileDana C. Crawford N3C Consortium doi: https://doi.org/10.64898/2026.01.21.26344555 This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.
Yes.

But by how much? Conclusions and Relevance SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 infection and recombinant zoster vaccination are modifiable risk factors for LOAD among older individuals, with a modestly significant interaction between the two. Recombinant zoster vaccination reduced LOAD risk regardless of sex and race, though the protection is greater in those without documented COVID-19 infection. Recombinant zoster vaccination and reduced exposure to COVID-19 infection in the later decades of life reduce the risk of developing Alzheimer disease over at least a five-year period.
Useful for below - "Late-onset Alzheimer disease (LOAD; onset age ≥65)"

"odds of LOAD are 16% higher among those with at least one reported COVID-19 infection" Image
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Mar 3
A doctor complaining about wearing N95s? Thread foreshadow in the gif 👇.

Dr. Sax, you should read this.

The arrogance of medical doctors thinking they know better than the CDC NIOSH and OSHA?

This comes as no surprise.
Imagine if an asbestos worker, or a tech working in BioSafety Lab was complaining about this.

But somehow, doctors making over $200,000 get carte blanche and and a piece in the @NEJM Voices.

And he does have a loud voice.
This is Dr. Sax, Clinical Director, Division of Infectious Diseases (ID), at THE Harvard hospital. In 2014, he wrote about how ID docs only make $174,000.

He probably makes northwards of $269,000.

This is very, very relevant.

You see, he is put out by the inconvenience Image
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