The court is at present taking a short break, and we expect to resume about 3.45pm.
We are restarting.
J: Anything on Debique, NC?
NC: I think SC and I are agreed that it doesn't take us forward; group disadvantage in this case has been agreed, so we don't need to go there.
J: So thinking about dates. How about 6th-7th August, Thursday & Friday?
NC & SC agree
J: So we have provisional dates for potential remedy hearing.
J: I think R wanted to submit a witness statement for that?
SC: And I think possibly the C too?
NC: Yes
J: [formalities of docs which might be needed for remedies hearing]
J: Is there anything else either of you want to raise?
NC & SC No
J: Thanks counsel, C, R witnesses. We echo honest, helpful and candid evidence from witnesses, and courteous behaviour of witnesses including those remotely.
J: We will adjourn now, and it will be a reserved judgment. Will aim for ASAP and will keep parties updated on our timings. Thank you everyone.
[END OF HEARING]
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Good afternoon. This afternoon we will be tweeting the oral submissions by Counsel in the case at Employment Tribunal of LS vs NHS England.
There was no hearing this morning as the barristers were composing and exchanging their written submissions to the Court. This will be the last session of the public part of the hearing; the panel will spend Monday deliberating on the case.
We expect the afternoon session of Day 5 in LS vs NHSE to begin at 2 pm. It may be a short session. Our coverage of earlier sessions and background on the case can be found on our Substack here: open.substack.com/pub/tribunaltw…x.com/tribunaltweets…
Afternoon session is starting. J reminding attendees, no hot drinks allowed. Witness PM will resume.
J - SC you mentioned a floor plan?
SC - have one, sent to Cs team.
J - NC have you had a chance to speak to C's do you have further qs?
NC - I was perplexed because
I was nearer the end than I expected. I do have the floor plan.
J - Clerk, can you print off 4 copies? NC - would you like to look at it
NC - would like to take instruction quickly
J - apologies, everyone has to leave the room and the remote
Today we are reporting day 4 of LS v NHS England (NHSE). LS, also using the pseudonym Faye Russell-Caldicott, is claiming indirect discrimination on the grounds of sex, religion and disability (PTSD) and harassment related to her sex and philosophical belief (gender-critical).
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X was down at the beginning of Part 2 of the afternoon session. The session is only expected to last 45 minutes. Our reporter is taking notes and will post later.
The rest of this thread is a copy of the notes we took during the second part of the afternoon hearing, while X was down.
Naomi Cunningham (NC) is continuing cross-examination of the respondent's witness Philip Goodfellow.
J - notes the points made by NC re the GIRES guidance. That matter has been dealt with. Further points a matter for submissions.
NC: no further points on that.
J - VH still under oath.
NC - apologies - one further Q.
use for single sex facilities - makes it clear that a woman who doesn't like [sharing the space] it is she not he who must find alternative facilities.
VH Yes