ABC News moderator Whoopi Goldberg suggests the SCOTUS ruling barring using race to draw congressional districts is "a step backwards" and about keeping black people from voting. She claims soon women won't be able to vote either:
"You know, this decision, we knew this was coming because they've been chipping away at this for a long time. The courts said, you know, there's no problem with race anymore and yet we're fighting every day talking about Project 2025.
We are seeing -- we know what's happening and it's happening -- it's going to start happening to women as well, because all these changes in voting where they're saying you can't use your married name, you got to go your birth certificate, so this is -- this is going to affect a lot of people.
Right now, it sounds like it's just affecting people of color. We know better. We knew this was coming, so this is meant to discourage you from voting. This is meant to make you feel like you don't have a voice. You do have a voice. Do not forget that.
But do you see it as a step backwards also?"
"You know, this decision, we knew this was coming because they've been chipping away at this for a long time. The courts said, you know, there's no problem with race anymore and yet we're fighting every day talking about Project 2025.
We are seeing -- we know what's happening and it's happening -- it's going to start happening to women as well, because all these changes in voting where they're saying you can't use your married name, you got to go your birth certificate, so this is -- this is going to affect a lot of people.
Right now, it sounds like it's just affecting people of color. We know better. We knew this was coming, so this is meant to discourage you from voting. This is meant to make you feel like you don't have a voice. You do have a voice. Do not forget that.
But do you see it as a step backwards also?"
Using incendiary rhetoric that could endanger Justice Alito's life, Sunny Hostin claims he's trying to take away the rights of black people and women. She claims her kids now have fewer civil rights than her:
SUNNY HOSTIN: I think it's a huge step back. I mean the 1965 Voting Rights Act was the most important piece of legislation in United States history.
GOLDBERG: People died for that.
HOSTIN: Yes, actually Justice Kagan in her 48-page dissent said that it was the most important piece because it was borne of the literal blood of Union soldiers and civil rights marchers.
GOLDBERG: Yeah.
HOSTIN: She wrote that. And it has been gutted. People are saying, well, it hasn't really been gutted. It has been, and that is because the majority opinion was written by Samuel Alito, the same judge that wrote the decision that took away a lot of women's rights.
GOLDBERG: Uh-huh.
HOSTIN: Two key points, states can no longer use race as a factor in redistricting but states can use party politics, they can use party politics in redistricting.
JOY BEHAR: What does that mean?
HOSTIN: Meaning --
SARA HAINES: Draw the line based on Republican, Democrat --
HOSTIN: You can draw the line based on Republican and Democrat.
ALYSSA FARAH GRIFFIN: It's okay to discriminate in that that case.
HOSTIN: It's okay to discriminate there.
Number two, the Voting Rights Act only protects against intentional discrimination. The problem with that is, I don't know about you but there aren't that many racists that say, 'hi, I'm a racist.' There aren't that many legislators that write in legislation, we are going to discriminate against black people. So, it's almost impossible to prove intentional discrimination. And that is why in my view this is gutted.
What is most troubling to me and I think you'll -- you and I, Whoopi, have discussed this, Alito argued that the vast social change has occurred throughout the country and particularly in the south indicating that racism no longer exists in this country.
I can tell you as a black woman that my father was born in 1949. He remembers segregated schools. He remembers second get grated water fountains, he remember that's couldn't -- that he did not have full civil rights. And he told me when I turned 40 years old that I was the first person in his family to enjoy full civil rights, and he is still alive today, and I am still alive today and I have been discriminated against. And now I have to tell my children that they have less civil rights than I did when I was born.
BEHAR: That's true.
HOSTIN: That is disgusting, despicable and I am devastated by this particular Supreme Court decision even though, Whoopi, we did know this was coming.
SUNNY HOSTIN: I think it's a huge step back. I mean the 1965 Voting Rights Act was the most important piece of legislation in United States history.
GOLDBERG: People died for that.
HOSTIN: Yes, actually Justice Kagan in her 48-page dissent said that it was the most important piece because it was borne of the literal blood of Union soldiers and civil rights marchers.
GOLDBERG: Yeah.
HOSTIN: She wrote that. And it has been gutted. People are saying, well, it hasn't really been gutted. It has been, and that is because the majority opinion was written by Samuel Alito, the same judge that wrote the decision that took away a lot of women's rights.
GOLDBERG: Uh-huh.
HOSTIN: Two key points, states can no longer use race as a factor in redistricting but states can use party politics, they can use party politics in redistricting.
JOY BEHAR: What does that mean?
HOSTIN: Meaning --
SARA HAINES: Draw the line based on Republican, Democrat --
HOSTIN: You can draw the line based on Republican and Democrat.
ALYSSA FARAH GRIFFIN: It's okay to discriminate in that that case.
HOSTIN: It's okay to discriminate there.
Number two, the Voting Rights Act only protects against intentional discrimination. The problem with that is, I don't know about you but there aren't that many racists that say, 'hi, I'm a racist.' There aren't that many legislators that write in legislation, we are going to discriminate against black people. So, it's almost impossible to prove intentional discrimination. And that is why in my view this is gutted.
What is most troubling to me and I think you'll -- you and I, Whoopi, have discussed this, Alito argued that the vast social change has occurred throughout the country and particularly in the south indicating that racism no longer exists in this country.
I can tell you as a black woman that my father was born in 1949. He remembers segregated schools. He remembers second get grated water fountains, he remember that's couldn't -- that he did not have full civil rights. And he told me when I turned 40 years old that I was the first person in his family to enjoy full civil rights, and he is still alive today, and I am still alive today and I have been discriminated against. And now I have to tell my children that they have less civil rights than I did when I was born.
BEHAR: That's true.
HOSTIN: That is disgusting, despicable and I am devastated by this particular Supreme Court decision even though, Whoopi, we did know this was coming.
The View suggest Justice Clarence Thomas is a race traitor.
Liberal white woman Joy Behar, who once said Thomas and Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) didn't know what it was like to be black in America, sparks the hate against the Justice:
BEHAR: Wait a second. What about Clarence Thomas? Didn't he stick up for his own?
GOLDBERG: No, he didn't. No.
HOSTIN: No, he did not. He is part of the majority here.
GOLDBERG: yeah.
Liberal white woman Joy Behar, who once said Thomas and Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) didn't know what it was like to be black in America, sparks the hate against the Justice:
BEHAR: Wait a second. What about Clarence Thomas? Didn't he stick up for his own?
GOLDBERG: No, he didn't. No.
HOSTIN: No, he did not. He is part of the majority here.
GOLDBERG: yeah.
Faux conservative Alyssa Farah Griffin seems to think that drawing districts based on race was somehow not gerrymandering:
FARAH GRIFFIN: And by the way, this has repercussions that are bad for the whole country.
GOLDBERG: Yes!
FARAH GRIFFIN: Regardless of the color of your skin. So, if you think Congress is wildly ineffective, if you think Congress is incapable of tackling big issues like healthcare, the rise of A.I., regulating tech, speech.--
HAINES: They are.
FARAH GRIFFIN: They are. Everyone I think agrees they are. This will make it so much worse. Partisan gerrymandering makes districts safe for the parties that are in power. It makes it so more extreme people on the left and the right are elected rather than moderates, than pragmatists, than people who are willing to work across the aisle.
And right now people are already gerrymandering. So, in Texas, Texas went then California voted and decided to. Florida is next.
HOSTIN: Hours after this decision, Florida gerrymandered it’s discricts.
FARAH GRIFFIN: And now -- in Marsha Blackburn in Tennessee said let's redraw our maps.
But my caution to Republicans who think this is a big win because we're going to get more seats, no, no, no, California down the road could decide to draw out all Republican districts because of this.
HOSTIN: They should.
FARAH GRIFFIN: Northern state, Illinois, New York, are going to do the same thing. It’s going to further divide the country, polarize us further, make it impossible to get things done.
FARAH GRIFFIN: And by the way, this has repercussions that are bad for the whole country.
GOLDBERG: Yes!
FARAH GRIFFIN: Regardless of the color of your skin. So, if you think Congress is wildly ineffective, if you think Congress is incapable of tackling big issues like healthcare, the rise of A.I., regulating tech, speech.--
HAINES: They are.
FARAH GRIFFIN: They are. Everyone I think agrees they are. This will make it so much worse. Partisan gerrymandering makes districts safe for the parties that are in power. It makes it so more extreme people on the left and the right are elected rather than moderates, than pragmatists, than people who are willing to work across the aisle.
And right now people are already gerrymandering. So, in Texas, Texas went then California voted and decided to. Florida is next.
HOSTIN: Hours after this decision, Florida gerrymandered it’s discricts.
FARAH GRIFFIN: And now -- in Marsha Blackburn in Tennessee said let's redraw our maps.
But my caution to Republicans who think this is a big win because we're going to get more seats, no, no, no, California down the road could decide to draw out all Republican districts because of this.
HOSTIN: They should.
FARAH GRIFFIN: Northern state, Illinois, New York, are going to do the same thing. It’s going to further divide the country, polarize us further, make it impossible to get things done.
"I totally concede that."
Historically ignorant, Farah Griffin agrees with Hostin's revisionist history that Republicans invented gerrymandering (the Democratic-Republican Party, which eventually became the Democratic Party were the originators of gerrymandering):
HAINES: They're so busy rigging the game that they're not actually winning.
[Applause]
HOSTIN: Well, you have to rig the game when you don’t have the numbers and you don't have the policy.
BEHAR: That's the only way that they can win.
HOSTIN: You got to cheat if you don't have the policies and the numbers.
GOLDBERG: The other thing --
FARAH GRIFFIN: It is both sides though. I have to say they that. They drew Adam Kinzinger's district out in Illinois.
GOLDBERG: Yeah, they - been doing - Listen --
HOSTIN: But the Republican did start this! They started this!
FARAH GRIFFIN: I totally concede that but it takes one side to lead or it's a race to the bottom.
Historically ignorant, Farah Griffin agrees with Hostin's revisionist history that Republicans invented gerrymandering (the Democratic-Republican Party, which eventually became the Democratic Party were the originators of gerrymandering):
HAINES: They're so busy rigging the game that they're not actually winning.
[Applause]
HOSTIN: Well, you have to rig the game when you don’t have the numbers and you don't have the policy.
BEHAR: That's the only way that they can win.
HOSTIN: You got to cheat if you don't have the policies and the numbers.
GOLDBERG: The other thing --
FARAH GRIFFIN: It is both sides though. I have to say they that. They drew Adam Kinzinger's district out in Illinois.
GOLDBERG: Yeah, they - been doing - Listen --
HOSTIN: But the Republican did start this! They started this!
FARAH GRIFFIN: I totally concede that but it takes one side to lead or it's a race to the bottom.
"You're still doing it!"
Whoopi claims that white people are "still" chasing black people away from polling locations with dogs and shooting them when they try to vote:
GOLDBERG: Here's the other problem, you know, we make laws to fix problems. We put the voting rights act together, because there was an issue, because they were keeping people from voting!
HOSTIN: Right.
GOLDBERG: They were literally shooting people! They were running them down with dogs to keep them from voting! Okay? Let's start with that. So when they say that problem is gone, it's not gone, because you're still doing it! You're still doing it!
And what I don't understand is, what is everybody so afraid of, because I always thought, I was raised to believe that you and I don't have to agree, that's all right. But now suddenly your argument doesn't hold water, so you're cheating! See, that -- we're a two-party system. We're not just Democrats, we're not just Republicans, we're a two-party system.
[Reading from a card] So, Ruth Bader Ginsburg said throwing out the preclearance when it worked and it’s continuing to work to stop discriminatory changes is like throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you're not getting wet.
HOSTIN: Yeah.
GOLDBERG [reading from a card]: The other thing I want to say is, voting in local elections matters more now than ever before.
[Applause]
Think nationally, work locally.
HOSTIN: That's correct.
GOLDBERG: Think nationally. Work locally. One more time.
ALL: Think nationally, work locally.
GOLDBERG: We'll be right back.
Whoopi claims that white people are "still" chasing black people away from polling locations with dogs and shooting them when they try to vote:
GOLDBERG: Here's the other problem, you know, we make laws to fix problems. We put the voting rights act together, because there was an issue, because they were keeping people from voting!
HOSTIN: Right.
GOLDBERG: They were literally shooting people! They were running them down with dogs to keep them from voting! Okay? Let's start with that. So when they say that problem is gone, it's not gone, because you're still doing it! You're still doing it!
And what I don't understand is, what is everybody so afraid of, because I always thought, I was raised to believe that you and I don't have to agree, that's all right. But now suddenly your argument doesn't hold water, so you're cheating! See, that -- we're a two-party system. We're not just Democrats, we're not just Republicans, we're a two-party system.
[Reading from a card] So, Ruth Bader Ginsburg said throwing out the preclearance when it worked and it’s continuing to work to stop discriminatory changes is like throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you're not getting wet.
HOSTIN: Yeah.
GOLDBERG [reading from a card]: The other thing I want to say is, voting in local elections matters more now than ever before.
[Applause]
Think nationally, work locally.
HOSTIN: That's correct.
GOLDBERG: Think nationally. Work locally. One more time.
ALL: Think nationally, work locally.
GOLDBERG: We'll be right back.
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