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A Toronto group took the same brain scan used to track Parkinsons - and pointed it at people with long COVID.
Dopamine nerve terminals in the striatum - reduced. Down in the range you’d see in mild-to-moderate Parkinson’s. Lancet family.🧵
The scan is DTBZ PET. It measures VMAT2 - the density of dopamine neuron terminals across three parts of the striatum. One for motivation, one for movement, one for memory.
This is an established Parkinson’s tool. Not something rigged up for COVID.
24 people with long COVID, 24 age matched healthy controls. Lower signal in all three regions. Magnitude comparable to mild-to-moderate PD - and the putamen sits at the level you see in RBD (REM sleep behaviour disorder, most specific early precursor to synucleinopathy). @DavidJoffe64_2
New. They also took people who’d had COVID and recovered, and compared them to people who’d never had it at all.
No difference. p = 0.77.
It’s not had COVID = less dopamine. People who bounced back look like people who were never infected.
The signal isn’t driven by the infection. It’s driven by the unrecovered state.
So what does VMAT2 actually measure? Picture the dopamine system as a delivery network.
VMAT2 = the loading docks where dopamine gets packed into vesicles. The scan counts the docks. Fewer docks usually means a smaller warehouse.
Usually is honesty, not a hedge. A lower number could also mean fewer vesicles per neuron, or less transporter per vesicle - not necessarily neurons lost. The authors say so themselves.
The strongest piece. Symptom maps onto region.
Apathy - ventral striatum. Motor slowing - putamen. Memory decline - caudate.
Not one vague global number - an anatomically specific map. And the lower the signal, the worse that particular symptom.
And it isn’t depression. Zero correlation with the Beck Depression Inventory. The result holds even after dropping the two people with a prior depressive episode.
An objective imaging abnormality, in an illness the system still frames as functional.
The discussion pushes a treatment direction. L-dopa, MAO inhibitors, dopamine augmentation. Sounds reasonable.
Good to know that the senior author filed a patent in 2026 for rasagiline and a tyramine dopamine-precursor approach - specifically for a long COVID indication.
The data don’t collapse because of that. But L-dopa as a long COVID treatment is the authors hypothesis, not this study’s finding.
Not neuron loss (index), not Parkinsons, not progression (a snapshot), and not long COVIDin general - but the neuropsychiatric LC subset the cohort was pre selected for.
Also not just depression, and not a COVID artefact.
Still - another independent line pointing at the same place. RBD (Gong), α-synuclein in vitro, FDG-PET brainstem (Guedj), TSPO inflammation (Visser), and now the dopamine terminals themselves.
HIV taught us a slow neuro-process can run below the clinical threshold that short windows keep missing.
There’s too much signal now to keep operating without prevention.
Avoid the lottery. Most people don't win in the long run.
@szupraha @ZdravkoOnline @adamvojtech86
Karida Liu at al., Loss of vesicular monoamine transporter 2 in striatum of long COVID and relationship to neuropsychiatric symptoms. thelancet.com/journals/ebiom…

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Jul 13
SARS2 doesn’t have to infect the brain to damage it. A new review in Frontiers Neurol. lays out how - and builds the whole thing on a cell long COVID coverage almost never mentions.
The mast cells in your meninges.🧵
Most post-mortem brains don’t show the virus productively infecting neurons or microglia. So where’s the damage coming from? The answer the review builds toward - it isn’t replicating virus driving this. It’s spike protein that stays behind.
The most solid, independent part of the review story? Swank 2023. Full-length spike in the plasma of 60% of people with PASC, up to 17 months out - nothing in acute patients in week one. Peluso 2024. Persistence past 14 months, with levels tracking markers of immune activation.
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Jul 13
New interesting mouse study out of Barcelona follows K18-hACE2 mice for 60 days after SARS2 infection. The trick - a deliberately low dose, so most animals survive the acute phase and can actually be followed this long. The goal - catch what’s left once acute COVID clears🧵
They recovered from mild COVID. Two (mouse) months later - nothing in the blood, but persistent immune dysregulation in tissue and a shrunken vagus nerve. A standard blood draw would’ve sent them home healthy.
At the group level, infected and control animals didn’t differ on behavior. At all. The signal only shows up in individual z-scores - a subset of animals carries the damage while the rest look normal. It’s not all the mice got worse, it’s some got notably worse.
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Jul 10
An Italian group took stomach lining biopsies from people with Long COVID and counted the nerve fibers in them. Under endoscopy the mucosa looked normal. Under a fluorescence microscope, roughly half the fibers were gone.🧵
12 patients with symptoms lasting more than 12 weeks, 8 controls no prior infection who were having a gastroscopy anyway. Biopsies from the fundus and antrum, taken 21 weeks after a negative swab. A blinded operator.
Two stains. PGP 9.5 marks all nerve fibers. VIP marks a subset of autonomic fibers that the authors treat as cholinergic. Software then reconstructs the nerves in 3D and computes fiber length per volume of tissue.
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Jul 8
The study in Clinical Ophthalmology - LISTEN, 595 people with long COVID.
57% report new ocular symptoms - blurred vision, dry eyes, floaters or flashes. The headline isn’t really about the eyes🧵
The eyes here work more like a warning light than a site of primary damage. People who report ocular symptoms carry a heavier overall illness picture across the board.
The authors let a model find which symptoms best separate the two groups. Five came out on top - dizziness, cold intolerance, pressure at the base of the head, tinnitus, and tremor. Not one of them is ocular.
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Jul 7
A German study followed 74 children and teens with severe long COVID for up to 3 years after infection, measuring their immune systems repeatedly. The finding worth unpacking - that immune picture kept shifting over time. It wasn't frozen in place.🧵
In the first year an antiviral signature dominated - signalling IFNα, IL-13, IL-33.
By years 1-3 that signature had dropped back to the levels seen in healthy kids. At first glance, that looks like recovery.
The profile moved, but the kids didn't get better. Across the entire follow-up, no group level improvement in physical or mental health. The immune system was remodelling itself - and clinically, nothing was happening. Remodelling isn't recovery.
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Jul 1
New study out of Amsterdam UMC asks a question most Long COVID imaging papers don’t tackle at once - does inflammation in the brain actually track with how well different brain regions talk to each other? 45 people, roughly 27 months post-infection!🧵
TSPO PET is a scan that lights up wherever immune cells in the brain (microglia) are activated - basically a map of where inflammation is happening. This version is fully quantitative, with blood sampling during the scan, not a shortcut estimate.
The second scan, resting-state fMRI, measures which brain regions sync up while someone just lies there doing nothing.
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