Difference between @ICANN and @ietf mailinglists?

Dates I encountered today on #IETF mailinglists:
- January 32 2008
-Jeu 18 March 1904
- 10 May 2036

The things that happen when ppl run their own mailservers 😋🤣😎🙈🤓

#IETF101 #IETFhackathon
I will not start about the different kinds of weird UTC offsets and 👽👾encodings we found. #IETF101
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iso-f675-5 unknown encoding in message
������, 01 ���� 2002 20:15:33 +0800
x-unknown unknown encoding in message
Fri, 32 Jan 2008 19:05:18 +0900 #justanotherdayattheoffice #igot99problemsanddateparsingis��

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What the European Commission proposes is that standards will be created for AI by European Standards Organisations. AI implementations that are compliant with the standards are legal in the EU.
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Procrastination is a capitalist frame we should overcome.

Just write when it works. Increasing productivity is not the solution to our problems.
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We are destroying ourselves and our planet just to live up to a market logic that no one fully comprehends.
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Happy to announce my dissertation is available online:

Wired Norms - Inscription, resistance, and subversion in the governance of the Internet infrastructure

dare.uva.nl/search?identif…
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Another new draft in response to the discussion of the removal of racist language in the IETF.

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