@marykmac @prolifetory @BarStirer @alicetimmons @wisitwippl @ShappiKhorsandi I think you are approaching this at a theoretical but non-practical level, I'm at the practical, non-theoretical level.

I also think you are looking at it from a heavily biased view where no woman ever feels uncomfortable, and so you set the bar so high the effect is all .... @marykmac @prolifetory @BarStirer @alicetimmons @wisitwippl @ShappiKhorsandi .... actions become wrong. The resolution to that paradox becomes, "well, we won't prosecute actions where everyone is cool, but identical actions where someone is upset (or decades later has a grudge and claims to be upset) they are unacceptable!" .... thats impractical....