These are two objectively bad movies, but over the years, their badness has been exaggerated by angry fan boys. A lot of problems with fandom can directly be traced back to these two movies... First let’s look at Batman and Robin. Thanks to studio pressure to be more family friendly and to sell more toys, Joel Schumacher attempted to make a campy film that call back to the 60s Batman show but without the wit, fun, and self awareness that made that show work