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WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG?

Chapter 1 – The Fall of Angels
Why is the plan of God taking so long? Why didn’t God just end sin when it started?

Many people ask this question and do not know where to start to answer it. To attempt this, we must consider what has happened through God’s plan to prove to men and angels that He is a just and Holy God and that the outworking of His plan is perfect. In what is referred to as “eternity past”, God existed and began His creation work. The Bible teaches that God’s first created beings were angels and that they were created to have fellowship with Him in Heaven and that there was a time of rebellion among certain angels.

What is important to our original question is God’s response to the fall of the rebellious angels, their pronounced judgment, and the means to present His perfect plan to the angels through other particular beings of God’s creation: mankind.

There is no creation account timeline for the angels as there is for our planet Earth, the universe, and men. However, we do have passages in the Old Testament that describe the first falling away from sin within God’s kingdom beginning with the most famous angel, Lucifer, who we also know as Satan, along with references that refer to angels and their purpose toward men and God.

In the Bible, angels are described as spirits and as ministers, meaning they were created to be servants of God, to be ones God created to help or be present to present God’s plan:
Pss 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

In Isaiah 14, we read part of the account from the Bible of an angel named Lucifer, (his name meaning “Light Bearer”) and how he came to his fallen state:

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Lucifer, also known as Satan, here declares in his heart that he desires to be equal or better than God Himself by exalting himself above the “stars of God”, above Lucifer’s own creator. This thought is what Bible believers call the origin of sin into God’s creation at that time, the angelic realm.

Lucifer’s fall and personal description are also explained further in the book of Ezekiel:
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Lucifer was a grand image of perfection, so much that his pride corrupted him; he determined to be just like his Creator, declared by God to be one of His most excellent and beautiful creations, yet when iniquity was found in his heart he was cast down from his position, and his judgment declared.

The Bible tells us that God hates iniquity, unholiness, and sin and that it will not be allowed in His presence:
Pss 5:4 For thou [art] not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
Pss 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Mt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

These declarations against sin and how it will not be allowed in God’s presence would indicate that since Lucifer sinned in Heaven, his presence in Heaven would not be allowed after his heart was lifted up in pride because of his beauty.
In the book of Job, we read of a description of Satan, (that name meaning “adversary”), having mobility, being able to move about the Earth, and was one day called before God along with other angels, who in this passage are called Sons of God:
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
Job 1:7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Peter describes these actions of Satan running to and fro in this verse:
1Pet 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

It is clear then, that Lucifer, (Satan), was an angel created by God, corrupted himself, was cast from heaven, having the means to move about the Earth, and he would do so while seeking someone to devour, to destroy.

Many Bible believers hold to the doctrine about this time in the past, that God would have presented His perfect plan that would counter the slander of Lucifer by presenting a previously unknown way of expressing His holiness and mercy through the creation of mankind and the material world. This full understanding of this plan was a mystery from the origin of the world. It must be true that this plan had to be known in its basic form by the Heavenly realm, and in particular, by Lucifer.

In many places in the Bible, there is an open conflict connected to a specific people that the Bible reveals are the chosen people from whom this plan is revealed to and revealed through, for the salvation of the world, to those who respond by faith to God’s purpose in restoring honor to His name.

We find a simplified account of this plan explained in a spiritual context in the book of Revelation:
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

The woman in this passage is believed by many to represent a Godly line of mankind with a special woman who bears a child that infuriates the great red dragon. This Godly line of men did not exist at the time of God’s revealing of His plan to the angelic realm.
God’s plan and its unfolding can be described here as both from the origin of mankind and from the eventual nation of men who would bring forth the Messiah.

That woman would represent the family line that produces that redeemer, and describes the nation of Israel, the child of Revelation 12:2 being Jesus Christ the Messiah, and the attempt by the great red dragon (Lucifer, or Satan) to destroy Him.

In the above passage, the great red dragon drew his tail and took 1/3 of the stars with him and they were cast to the Earth and tried to destroy the child from this woman. It must be noted that this child was to be a strong ruler of the world and would be caught up in Heaven, having escaped the attempt by the red dragon and brought to the throne of God.

Bible believers believe this is a description of God’s plan of the coming Messiah, predicted in eternity past to the angelic realm, concerning what God’s perfect plan for creation would be.

God’s perfect plan that He presented to the angelic realm would be fulfilled in the creation of men and of a specific man with a unique birth, symbolized by a woman with the ability to give birth and produce a child.

His expression of His holiness to His creation and His mercy and grace to mankind continues with the creation story and the fall of mankind in the Garden of Eden. (2)
Chapter 2 – The Fall of Men
Knowing then that God had a perfect plan before there ever was an Earth and knowing that God needed to bring about a plan and follow its due course, it is here that we go to Genesis chapter 1.

God created man to be a being that would have companionship with God:
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

A related description of mankind being of a special nature to God is also stated in the Psalms:
Pss 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Pss 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
Pss 8:6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all [things] under his feet:

God had a purpose for man which was to serve God and believe on Him and be rewarded in eternity for doing so:
Isa 64:4 For since the beginning of the world [men] have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, [what] he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.

The man created, Adam, was given authority over the Garden of Eden by God Himself:
Gen 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

This authority of the things of Eden would have extended to all the material things of the created world, Earth. Adam was the supreme man, the leader of all. While his authority given by God may have had a kingdom to lead over, he was alone in his exercise of this authority.

It must be remembered, with authority comes responsibility, and Adam would be responsible for the things that happen on the Earth because he was the man created to have that authority over the Earth at the beginning. As we will see further, the purpose of the creation of men, also, was for the man created, Adam, to be the leader of what would be called a family, and the unfolding of God’s plan would also use the concept of family to reveal God’s perfect plan.

Gen 2:18 And the Lord God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This [is] now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

There was only one man and one woman specially created here: Adam and Eve. This means that the concept of the family begins with the man created to fellowship with God and with the woman created to be the perfectly suitable companion of the man. Whatever had happened to Adam and Eve defined those that would come after.

In the early days after the creation was finished, God had given only one command to Adam, and it was this:
Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

This warning, of “thou shalt surely die” can be literally “dying thou shall surely die”, meaning that when they physically died, they would be dead for eternity for their spirit would be dead once sin had occurred.

Knowing that angels are created beings and have the ability to run to and fro from the Earth as we previously saw in Job 1: 6-7 and 1 Peter 5:8, we can easily see how angels, good and bad, would be observing this creation, and Lucifer would not be doing so to defend the honor of his creator, but to somehow cause havoc or disruption as the lion who seeks whom he may devour.

We do not know how much time passed after the creation of Adam and Eve and their fall into sin, but the Bible describes in Genesis chapter 3 the encounter of Eve with Satan, the serpent, (the devil):
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons.

This passage is why Bible believers call Lucifer, (here known as the serpent), the father of all lies, for here he took the word of God and twisted it, to fool Eve into taking and eating the forbidden fruit.

This introduction of sin in Genesis 3 into the world shows that Eve was deceived, not Adam who ate the forbidden fruit willingly, and because Adam was created for the purpose of having fellowship with God and to be the representative of God on planet Earth and to be the caretaker of God’s creation beginning in the Garden of Eden, therefore God declares that he is the sinner that let sin into mankind:
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Satan’s methods were revealed at this time and his lies and lying nature were referenced by the Lord Jesus Christ in John chapter 8:
Jn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

In this, we see that Adam and Eve both disobeyed God. They also didn’t believe what God said about their dying if they ate the forbidden fruit. The first two sins of men were, therefore, unbelief and disobedience.

Adam and Eve hid from God and God searched them out and asked them what was the reason they were hiding. They admitted they were naked and confessed to God that they had disobeyed that they disobeyed God and ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil:
Gen 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

After they confessed their sin, God pronounced a judgment against Satan, the serpent:
Gen 3:14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

God not only cursed the physical animal that Satan had possessed to tempt Adam and Eve with, but God also cursed and pronounced judgment against Satan himself. God also gave humanity the basic idea of how God was going to restore honor to Himself by judging Satan and restoring sinful men through the seed of the woman, that eventual seed being provided by God Himself.

While Satan would bruise the heel of the seed of the woman, that same seed would bruise the serpent’s head, meaning the crushing of the head, the death of the serpent. This promise in Genesis 3 is the first mention in the Bible of the Messiah that was to come to redeem mankind.

God pronounced a judgment against Adam and Eve, that Adam would be cursed to work the ground from the sweat of his brow and that Eve would be forced into a painful childbirth, a curse that would be for all time for all mankind.

In Genesis, Eve is declared the mother of all mankind, and because of the sin she had committed with her husband, Adam, all children would have a sinful nature, one that would require confession and repentance and a turning to God for the forgiveness of sin.

Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

This means that the concept of the family beginning with Adam and Eve would extend to children born to them as promised and prophesied by Adam’s statement that Eve was the name of the mother of all living. This concept of family will be revealed later to play a quite important role in promises made by God to men, and through men for the redemption of the world; promises given only through offspring that have a direct relation to the promised families.

Adam and Eve’s attempt to cover their nakedness, (their knowledge of sin), using fig leaves was replaced with the skins of one of the animals that God had created, an innocent animal, without blemish, unhurt while in the Garden of Eden. God killed that perfect animal as a sign of what He would accept from mankind for sins to be forgiven.

Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

This is significant, for the covering of skins for their nakedness is not just to cover their skin, but to be the act of God providing the sacrifice for the covering of sin, that the atonement for sin must come from bloodshed from an innocent, perfect source.

This first sacrifice for sin in Eden was from an innocent, perfect, newly created animal that God Himself provided. This is crucial - God provided the sacrifice.
This death of one of the original animals that God had just created, foreshadowed the eventual appearance of the Messiah and also the type of death He would experience. This part of God’s sovereign plan to redeem mankind was a mystery to the angels who would know what was to come:
1Pet 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, [as] silver and gold, from your vain conversation [received] by tradition from your fathers;
1Pet 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1Pet 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

This time of temptation and failure of Adam and Eve is also part of what has been explained above previously in Revelation, that the red dragon would try to destroy the child that came from the woman.

From the very start, Lucifer tried to prevent the Messiah from coming by corrupting the family, not fully understanding the methods of God’s plan of redemption of men from the penalty of sin and the promised Messiah spoken of in Genesis 3:15 due to Satan’s fallen nature.

The effect of Satan trying to corrupt Eve, and not Adam, would be an attempt to prevent the mother of the promised child of Revelation 12 to be able to produce that child due to that mother, Eve, being corrupted by sin. If the mother of the promised redeemer was corrupted by sin, then God’s plan of providing a redeemer who would judge Satan would either be prevented or delayed.

Satan, however, is not omniscient nor does he know the future. While he succeeded in corrupting the line of men that the Lord created to come in the world, he is unable to prevent the will of God from being completed.

This promise of the coming redeemer in Genesis 3:15 would have been witnessed by angels good and bad and would be a part of the mystery of God in how He was going to remove the slander of His name and character by Lucifer. God, by allowing the entrance of sin into the world, would seem to allow a victory by the Serpent at first but would end with the fulfilled promise from God of a redeemer who would crush the head of the Serpent.

The importance of this redeemer cannot be stated enough, for when God told Adam that the day he ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil would bring about his death, (Genesis 2:17), it was not his physical death, but that the spirit that God breathed into him would die. This also would be the spirit of life inside Eve that would die. This death of their spirit would create their need of reconciliation to their God, their Creator.

Their confession of their sin once confronted by God, along with the sacrifice of that animal that the Lord sacrificed to cover the nakedness of Adam and Eve, was done as the perfect symbol for all mankind to follow for remainder of men’s time on Earth until the Lord is finished with His creation. It served as the example of how sin entraps men and women, destroys men and women, and that only by confession of sin and that the trust in the sacrifice that only God alone can provide will bring men to the forgiveness of their sin by God through faith in what God did and not through their own actions.

This entrance of sin through Adam and Eve condemns all mankind in that all children that came from Adam and Eve, and all men and women that came after were all born with the spirit inside them, originally given by God, corrupted and considered dead.

This dead spirit is what condemns a man or woman to hell upon death. It came about because of the sins of Adam and Eve. The act of God receiving the confession of Adam and Eve, along with God Himself providing the sacrifice of a perfect animal that He had just created, taken from the Garden of Eden as a symbol of the type of death that the coming redeemer would suffer from, (The seed of the woman), is the lesson for all mankind, taught from the beginning of creation.
This lesson, that mankind has sinned, and that a redeemer is promised through the seed of a woman, and that this redeemer will suffer a death similar to the death of the animal that God sacrificed for Adam and Eve, and that this death will cover the nakedness, cover the sins of men,
was to be the message all generations were to repeat to all men and their offspring until that redeemer appeared to redeem mankind.
But most men did not believe.

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Dec 11, 2024 Asheville and Swanannoa video and picture thread. Going to try and label each post. One video is about 19 minutes long again, it is in Asheville, right alongside the swanannoa River as it climbs north from rte 70 up north east from the VA hospital. LOTS of damage.

They did rebuild the banks in a few places, they did lay asphalt in a couple places, but it is process in others, and it rained here the last couple days and it is muddy, below freezing now.

I had a conversation with a bridge repair and highway repair guy, he told me the sediment was 4 feet under the bridge at rte 70 where the Swanannoa River passes under at exit 55 off rte 40. That water level is not 15 feet lower than that. No one knows where the sediment went other than to say it went downstream and spread out. The river is absolutely deeper now.

The number of trees knocked down that you will see have to be removed soon, for when they fall, they will float downstream and make a dam at the same bridge that the flo0od almost took out. That in itself is a major work for anyone, any city, any state.

all my videos and photos from december 11, 2024; Asheville, Swanannoa. The 19 minute video is the Swanannoa River going north from the area of Exit 55 on rte40, the north east area of the VA hospital. It was over 2 months before they even got running water. The video on the right side of the road is Swanannoa, the town, they still have more than 50% of the debris left to clean up. All they could do so far is open the roads. No one has a place to put all the debris.

The fallen trees in the river and the river banks must be taken down or they will dam all bridges they float to, and there will be new emergencies.

This is a bigger disaster than anyone is being told.

And, yes, people are in tents, but someone told me today that it is not 1400 kids in tents in the publlic schools, not that many...just a couple hundred kids...in tents...in winter...because their homes were destroyed.

Just a couple hundred. . .

And the kids are like zombies, all they want is speghetti sauce for their noodles because that is all they have left to eat. The children are also mostly not from low income families, either, they are from engineer's families, bankers families, the wealthier families had the homes in the hills because that is where a lot of the nicer homes were, not just the hillbillys you see on the internet videos, some of these people had 1/2 million dollar a year businesses...and now they got zero.

And FEMA has given less than 30 homes.
And people, like me and you, have donated dozens and clothes and food and kept these people alive. Government didn't do this. The grace of God did this. Appalachia did this.
But it aint over. Understand that. It aint over.

That is the video and photo I will start with:
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That bridge, that area that is blocked, that is where the water had taken away all soil and they had to close the bridge. They were able to fill it with rock, then process, and fill, and all they need to do is pave over what they got and that bridge can be used.

The bridge guy told me today they can maybe put 90,000 pounds on it, too, once it is signed off, it should be good to go.

the camper on the right, that is in Swanannoa, right off rte 70. A tent next to it, their cars.
Welcome home.
Aint no one doubting why they are there. Aint no one gonna say a word if they're smart or want to get re-elected.

Asheville, today, December 3, 2024.
Long video goes from Azeala Street to Swanannoa River Road. A lot of improvement to the road, some paving, still a lot of debris, 2 months after the storm.

Second video is Swanannoa River Road near the Walmart that got flooded. That part of the road is blocked off on the areas on both the east and west sides of the Walmart.

NO POWER on parts of that road to the street lights, nor to the traffic lights.
@matt_vanswol @MatthewsVicki20 @TammyDoodleDo @TweakedCaptions This is that wooden bridge on the right at an angle. The Blue Ridge Parkway is going north/south, that wooden bridge is that angled road partially hidden by trees in the center, the right side of the bridge.

Asheville, bridge on Rte 70, Swanannoa River, I was wrong, that bridge still stands, but, it don't look good.
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Asheville 10/28/2024

1. This is rte 81, Swanannoa River Road, Swanannoa, North Carolina.
#helene2024
This IS the back road I took to the VA Hosp, I didn't recognize it until I was leaving.
This whole area is all gone.
Homeless camp all gone, streets, local bridges.
27 days no rain, impending new landslides when it comes. 2.

Eternal Security
The True Believer is Safe and Secure in Christ Forever

Personal assurance and the enjoyment of my so-great salvation depends on my knowledge of the absolute certainty of the promises of God.

The story is told of a western traveler in the pioneer days who came one winter night to the banks of a wide river. He had to get across but there was no bridge. The river was coated with a sheet of ice but he did not know how safe it was. After much hesitation he gingerly tested it with one foot and it held. Night was coming on and he must get across. With many fears and with anxious care he crept out on hands and knees, hoping to distribute his weight evenly on the uncertain ice. When he had gone some distance painfully and slowly he suddenly heard the sound of horse hoofs and joyful singing. There in the dusk was a man happily driving a wagon load of coal across the ice, being pulled by a muscular horse. The man was cheerfully singing as he went. He knew the ice was safe and he had no fears.

Both of these men were absolutely safe on that ice. The ice was thick and solid. It could have borne twice that weight easily. One man was in fear and doubt because he did not know how safe he was and did not realize how solid and thick the ice was. The other man enjoyed his ride across the frozen river because he knew without any doubt that the ice would hold and that the foundation under him was solid and safe.

A true believer is safe and secure in Jesus Christ. No foundation could be any more safe or solid (1 Cor. 3:11). The problem is that some believers are not familiar with the statements and promises of God concerning their absolute security in Christ and therefore they are not in the place to fully enjoy their so-great salvation. It is to help such people that these pages are written. May our security in Christ cause our hearts to greatly rejoice: + "Safe am I, Safe am I, in the hollow of His hand!"+

Every believer is safe and secure and protected in Christ, but not every believer realizes and understands his safety and security as well as he should. The more I realize how safe and secure I am in Christ, the more assurance I will have and the more I will be able to enjoy my relationship with Christ.

Sadly, there is another class of people who have a sense of false security. They think that they are safe when they are not safe at all. They think they are on solid ground when they are actually on sinking sand. Their situation would be like the person who thinks the ice is thick and walks out on it, only to have it give way under his feet, plunging him into the icy waters. Some have false security because they think that their good works will earn them entrance into heaven. Others have false security because they are trusting in some religious system for their salvation. Anyone who trusts in anything or anyone other than Jesus Christ and Him alone is not safe! Such a person is in great danger. Our refuge and safety must not be in SELF but in CHRIST ALONE.

In these pages we are going to see from the Bible that the true believer is safe and secure in Christ forever. The one who has come to Christ for salvation will never be cast out (John 6:37). No true believer will ever be lost. No true believer will ever lose his salvation (John 6:37-40). Will the true believer ever perish (John 10:28)? Never!

Before considering our eternal safety in Christ and God’s amazing keeping ability, let us consider the important, soul-searching question: Am I a true believer? To help you answer this question, consider the following questions given on the next page. Think about each one in an honest, personal way. Take time to look up the Bible verses that are given along with each question. Ask yourself: Who am I really trusting for my eternal salvation?

Am I A True Believer?

Do I see myself as a guilty, lost sinner who stands condemned before a holy and righteous God (Romans 3:10-19,23)? Do I recognize that my own heart is deceitful and wicked and incurably sick (Jeremiah 17:9; Mark 7:21-23)? Do I see myself as deserving of death and hell (Romans 6:23)? Do I realize that if God were to give me what I deserve and repay me for the way I have lived, then I would be totally destroyed (Psalm 130:3; compare Psalm 103:10)? Do I recognize that there is absolutely nothing I can do to save myself (Titus 3:5)? Do I understand that trying my best to perform good works will never gain me or earn me an entrance into heaven (Ephesians 2:8-9)? Do I realize that my church or my religious system cannot save my soul (Jeremiah 17:5)? Am I convinced that my own righteousness and my own goodness falls far short of the righteousness that God requires and demands (Romans 3:10-12; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10)? Do I, in and of myself, have any personal credentials that are acceptable before God (Isaiah 64:6)?

Do I believe that Jesus Christ is God’s only Solution to my sin problem (Acts 4:12)? Do I recognize Him as the only way to God (John 14:6), the only Door to salvation (John 10:9), the only Saviour for sinners (Matthew 1:21) and the only One who can give me eternal life (John 10:28; 17:3)? Do I understand that Jesus Christ is the eternal God (John 1:1-3) who came into this world and became a man to save me (John 1:14; 1 Timothy 1:15; John 3:17)? Am I convinced that He loved me even when I was a great sinner (Romans 5:8; John 3:16) and that He died and rose again to save my soul (Romans 4:25)? Am I persuaded that the Lord Jesus died on the cross for my sins and that He died in my place as my perfect Substitute, dying in my stead and paying completely the full penalty for my sins (Isaiah 53:6; 1 Peter 3:18; 2 Corinthians 5:21)? Am I trusting in Him and in Him alone to save me (Acts 16:31)? Have I come to Him in simple, child-like faith (John 6:35,37; Matthew 11:28)? Have I, by faith, personally received the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour (John 1:12)? Am I resting my entire self on who He is (John 8:24), on what He has done (1 Cor. 15:3-4) and on what He has said (John 6:47)?

Do I believe that He is able to completely save all those who come unto God through Him, including me (Hebrews 7:25)? Do I believe the statement of Christ found in John 5:24? Is John 3:16 true of me? Have I ever shared with others that Jesus Christ is my Saviour (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 10:32)? Am I able to say from my heart: "My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus’ blood and righteousness. I dare not trust the sweetest frame but wholly lean on Jesus’ Name. On Christ the solid Rock I stand—all other ground is sinking sand, all other ground is sinking sand!" [Edward Mote]

Another helpful question that I can ask myself is this: If I were to die today and stand before God and He should ask me, "Why should I allow you to enter My holy heaven?" what would my answer be? If my answer in any way points to MYSELF (my own credentials, my own works, my own religious deeds, etc.) then I am not standing on solid ground. Here are some examples of people putting their trust in SELF:

"God should let me into His holy heaven because in my lifetime I have done more good than bad." "God should let me into His holy heaven because I try to keep the ten commandments." "God should let me into His holy heaven because I’m a member of a certain church" etc. All such answers point to ME, but salvation is not of ME; salvation is of the LORD!

There is only one reason why I can enter God’s holy heaven. The appropriate response is this: "I will enter God’s holy heaven for one reason and one reason only. It is only because of Jesus Christ my Saviour. Apart from His work on the cross I could never be saved. Apart from His life which He has given to me as a free gift, I could never enter His holy heaven. He is my only hope. He is the only righteousness I have and He is all the righteousness I need. Thank You Lord for saving my soul and making me whole." Notice how this answer points away from SELF and clearly points to the Saviour and to Him alone!

In the following sections of this document, we are going to establish the fact that the true believer is safe and secure in Christ forever. This is the doctrine of eternal security. In answering the questions, please look up all of the verses that are given, even if you think you know the answer without looking up the verses. It is important to see exactly what God says and to let His Word sink deeply into your heart (Psalm 119:11; Colossians 3:16).

Is The True Believer Safe and Secure in Christ Forever?

The answer to this question is an emphatic "YES" for the following reasons:

1. The true believer is safe and secure in Christ forever because it is impossible for God to break His salvation promises.

Is God a man that He should lie (see Numbers 23:19)? ______ Therefore, God cannot break His promises! In this course of study we have already studied 15 salvation promises.  One of them was John 3:16. In this passage God promises the true believer that he will never ______________________. In John 3:18 God promises that the true believer will never be _____________________.

According to John 5:24, what are 3 things that are true of every believer?
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In John 6:37 Christ promises to never ______________     __________ the person who comes to Him. In John 11:26 Christ promises that the true believer will never ________ [This "death" does not refer to physical death which both saved people and unsaved people experience, but it refers to "the second death" which is eternal separation from God (see Rev. 20:14-15; 21:8) which only the unsaved experience].
            Answer True or False:
________If a believer sins, then Christ will cast him out (John 6:37).________A person who truly is trusting in Christ as Saviour will never perish (John 3:16).________John 5:24 teaches the same truth as Romans 8:1. No condemnation!________It is possible for a true believer to lose his salvation and perish.________If a true believer in Christ could perish, then this would make God a liar (see John 3:16).________God is not a liar, and therefore John 3:16 is true. The believer in Christ will not perish. God has given us His Word! God said it and that settles it! 2. The true believer is safe and secure in Christ forever because it is impossible for a true believer to become "UN-SAVED."
According to 1 Corinthians 6:11, when the Corinthian people became saved, three things happened to them:

They were ____________________________.
They were ____________________________.
They were ____________________________.
Do you think it is possible for a believer to become unwashed? _____________ Can a person become unsanctified? _____ Do you think that a born-again person can become unjustified (condemned)? _______ Can a believer become unredeemed? ______ For a person to lose his salvation he would have to become UNWASHED, UNSANCTIFIED, UNJUSTIFIED and UNREDEEMED! Is this possible? _________ Does God "undo" the good work that He begins in a person or does He bring that good work to its ultimate completion (Phil. 1:6)? _________________________________________________

1) Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech

This is the full text of Enoch Powell's so-called 'Rivers of Blood' speech, which was delivered to a Conservative Association meeting in Birmingham on April 20 1968. The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature. One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: at each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary. By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future. Above all, people are disposed to mistake predicting troubles for causing troubles and even for desiring troubles: "If only," they love to think, "if only people wouldn't talk about it, it probably wouldn't happen." Perhaps this habit goes back to the primitive belief that the word and the thing, the name and the object, are identical. At all events, the discussion of future grave but, with effort now, avoidable evils is the most unpopular and at the same time the most necessary occupation for the politician. Those who knowingly shirk it deserve, and not infrequently receive, the curses of those who come after. A week or two ago I fell into conversation with a constituent, a middle-aged, quite ordinary working man employed in one of our nationalised industries. After a sentence or two about the weather, he suddenly said: "If I had the money to go, I wouldn't stay in this country." I made some deprecatory reply to the effect that even this government wouldn't last for ever; but he took no notice, and continued: "I have three children, all of them been through grammar school and two of them married now, with family. I shan't be satisfied till I have seen them all settled overseas. In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man." I can already hear the chorus of execration. How dare I say such a horrible thing? How dare I stir up trouble and inflame feelings by repeating such a conversation? The answer is that I do not have the right not to do so. Here is a decent, ordinary fellow Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that his country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and 2.) I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking - not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history. In 15 or 20 years, on present trends, there will be in this country three and a half million Commonwealth immigrants and their descendants. That is not my figure. That is the official figure given to parliament by the spokesman of the Registrar General's Office. There is no comparable official figure for the year 2000, but it must be in the region of five to seven million, approximately one-tenth of the whole population, and approaching that of Greater London. Of course, it will not be evenly distributed from Margate to Aberystwyth and from Penzance to Aberdeen. Whole areas, towns and parts of towns across England will be occupied by sections of the immigrant and immigrant-descended population. As time goes on, the proportion of this total who are immigrant descendants, those born in England, who arrived here by exactly the same route as the rest of us, will rapidly increase. Already by 1985 the native-born would constitute the majority. It is this fact which creates the extreme urgency of action now, of just that kind of action which is hardest for politicians to take, action where the difficulties lie in the present but the evils to be prevented or minimised lie several parliaments ahead. The natural and rational first question with a nation confronted by such a prospect is to ask: "How can its dimensions be reduced?" Granted it be not wholly preventable, can it be limited, bearing in mind that numbers are of the essence: the significance and consequences of an alien element introduced into a country or population are profoundly different according to whether that element is 1 per cent or 10 per cent. The answers to the simple and rational question are equally simple and rational: by stopping, or virtually stopping, further inflow, and by promoting the maximum outflow. Both answers are part of the official policy of the Conservative Party. It almost passes belief that at this moment 20 or 30 additional immigrant children are arriving from overseas in Wolverhampton alone every week - and that means 15 or 20 additional families a decade or two hence. Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependants, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancés whom they have never seen. Let no one suppose that the flow of dependants will automatically tail off. On the contrary, even at the present admission rate of only 5,000 a year by voucher, there is sufficient for a further 25,000 dependants per annum ad infinitum, without taking into account the huge reservoir of existing relations in this country - and I am making no allowance at all for fraudulent entry. In these circumstances nothing will suffice but that the total inflow for settlement should be reduced

1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans PAGE 18, THE 2016 REPUBLICAN PLATFORM, MARRIAGE BETWEEN MAN AND A WOMAN
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1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans PAGE 18, THE 2016 REPUBLICAN PLATFORM, MARRIAGE BETWEEN MAN AND A WOMAN
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Here is one way of giving the Gospel: 2

1.)
Ken ham, ( @aigkenham ) always said the reason he preaches creationism so much is that Genesis is the foundation of all doctrine.
So, keeping that in mind, I wondered why people only used the Romans road for example, when witnessing? 2.)
Just John 3:16, "God loves you and gave His son because You're a sinner and need to believe!"
seemed to me that telling people they are sinners wihtout knowing the origin of sin,
wont explain much especially in a nation like the US where . . .

(1)
TEN "MUSTS"
IF I AM TO UNDERSTAND GOD'S WORD
1. I must be born again.

"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God....Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" (John 3:3,7). (2)
The person who is not born again cannot understand God's Word:

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14).

1.) Commandments to judge 2.) Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly;

Earlier I posted some links about #JohnMacarthur that people tried to respond to, not knowing the trail of links to comment accurately.
This thread is an attempt to correct that
John Macarthur supports rock music in Church
middletownbiblechurch.org/separate/macro… 2.
What is Godly music and how does that apply to modern CCM style music?
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I am absolutely sickened.
It keeps getting worse.
That homosexual man who is surgically mutilating himself to look like a woman, is not doing it to look like a woman but like a little girl. 2. Videos have been watched again, and in the last year chronicled his changes from an adult male to a teenage girl.
This sexual perversion is tragically being supported by democrats and Godless republicans.
It began when straight people slept around.

1. I wrote this almost 20 years ago.
It stands the test of time. 2. On a few website bulletin boards, I have used the term PEACE NAZI to describe the peace movement in general, and one person asked me for an explanation as to what the term means and why I say it. Here is my answer: